When did Vince "lose it" for you?

[prichardmark]

Dec 27, 2018 0:49:17 GMT -5 carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) said:

Wrestlemania 9. Right?

Well.. Things looked awesome then in 1993 compared to today. LOL



Cena would have been alright if he was turned heel in 2007 or so.  If Vince had competition theres no doubt Vince would have been FORCED to turn Cena heel

[Perd]

I can’t really pinpoint on specific thing. But over the past few years, it just became apparent that, at best, he doesn’t have much respect for his audience, or, at worst, he has an active hatred for his audience.

[Yacht Persona]

When he bought WCW, and had the opportunity to make money hand over fist by bringing in stars like Booker T, DDP, Scott Steiner, and Goldberg and booking dream matches the fans all wanted to see. Instead what he did was make them all look like incompetent, inferior talent during their time there(Booker T was eventually saved in 2006) all because of his petty rationale that they once worked for the company that "tried to put him out of business," or what is otherwise known as business.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Every time I see the thread title, I think of Vince in some Porky's style comedy which would be both horrifying and amazing. "We're gonna get laid pal!"

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Honestly?... Katie Vick. I could never look at him the same aftwr he booked that shit.

[Slingshot Suplay]

Around the time of the steroid trial. He couldn't afford his top talent and they ended up going to wcw, and went with the "new generation " direction, but the product suffered, business was down and he didn't know what to do.

He got lucky with the Attitude era because he listened to people who were in touch and let them try new things.

[Hobby Drifter]

Vince never had “it” for me. Nearly every success the man has ever had came by ripping off others, being left with no other options, or pure, stupid, dumb luck.

Things broke his way a bunch of times through no fault of his own. If anything had worked out differently, he’d be nothing.

[Deleted]

How he handled the Invasion. Let his ego get in the way of booking what had the potential to be the biggest storyline ever.

[HMARK Center]

I'll go with circa 1992. As said before the guy had his finger to the pulse of what'd get over with his target audience during the 1980s, and to his credit he tried to get ahead of things and "rebuild" once his 80s stars were getting long in the tooth (though that was also in large part thanks to the steroid trial), but once the Hulkamania era ended you could just feel how the company didn't have a unifying style that brought everything together. It tried to emulate the early 90s aesthetics of bright colors and loud designs on everything, but it just felt so flat and I think that was in part because Vince himself was not a creature of that era so it came off as trying to be something instead of just being, if that makes any sense. Contrast that with 80s WWF where the overall presentation was made to be a bit more sports-like and professional, albeit with weirdo comic book characters, and it allows that era to feel a bit more timeless. Even as a 9-10 year old I found myself completely turned off and no longer interested in what was going on beyond a cursory glance now and then at a random episode of Superstars on the weekend or something, or a Raw here or there every few months.

I will certainly give him credit, though, for allowing Austin's rise to be booked as well as it was; yes, there was the post-Austin 3:16 promo lull, but once the first Hart/Austin match went down the booking of that angle was about as great as it could be. Again though, as with the steroid trial this was also an era where Vince had a metaphorical gun to his head to try different things or allow other creative minds to shape more of his shows, though the guy gets points as being one of the best promos of all time, something that really began during this era.