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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 7, 2019 16:29:12 GMT -5
2. Kharma's entry might've been the last great shock we've had in a Royal Rumble in terms of surprising entries. I dunno...
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Post by fw91 on Jan 7, 2019 16:34:56 GMT -5
Liked it at the time of viewing but it’s pretty bad. Jobberiffic
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Post by MWC on Jan 7, 2019 16:39:18 GMT -5
This was one that I enjoyed watching live and didn't find any issues with it. Enjoyed the surprises and got a laugh at the commentators getting into the match.
Going back and rewatching it though? No thank you. Did that a couple of years ago and was blown away by how much filler it really was.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 7, 2019 18:46:57 GMT -5
2. Kharma's entry might've been the last great shock we've had in a Royal Rumble in terms of surprising entries. I dunno... it was a great moment, but there was some speculation that he was debuting. Kharma nobody saw coming.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 7, 2019 18:56:46 GMT -5
Extremely well booked with an atrocious lineup.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Jan 7, 2019 23:39:08 GMT -5
Which became clear when the feud became less about “who’s the best in the world” and more “your daddy’s a drunk loser, Punk!” It was weird how they rushed into the "Your dad's a drunk and your sister's a whore!" stuff. I would've just had the build to the WM match simply be about who the true Best in the World is, with Jericho losing at WM and trying to get in Punk's head for the Extreme Rules match out of frustration. The only thing I remember about this feud was CM Punk being gifted a liqour basket and then regifting it to Josh Matthews.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 8, 2019 1:09:46 GMT -5
As I recall one of the narratives they kept pushing was "Anyone could enter the Royal Rumble." That's why you ended up with wacky stuff like all 3 announcers entering and only one but not both Usos.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jan 8, 2019 8:54:49 GMT -5
I remember marking hard for Kharma being in it.
Then being super annoyed when Sheamus won. With the lack of star power this was Jericho's rumble to win, and add another feather to his cap.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 8, 2019 9:17:22 GMT -5
It would have been fine if Jericho won. Sheamus eliminating him killed the excitement in the building dead. Jericho ended up wrestling for the WWE Title at Mania anyway in a good match, whereas Sheamus winning lead to his curtain jerk 18 second "match".
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 8, 2019 18:24:40 GMT -5
I remember marking hard for Kharma being in it. Then being super annoyed when Sheamus won. With the lack of star power this was Jericho's rumble to win, and add another feather to his cap. In fairness it's not like Jericho needed it. Admittedly Sheamus probably didn't either, but which one of them shows up every week, doesn't kick flags, punch women or play atrocious metal and has a decade less wear and tear?
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Post by rrg251 on Jan 8, 2019 18:51:24 GMT -5
It was an experiment that was fun at the time, not so much now, to see how fans would react to pretty much the entire field being surprise entrants. It was an uptick from the previous year's 40-man disaster, but still a disappointment.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 8, 2019 19:29:07 GMT -5
I remember marking hard for Kharma being in it. Then being super annoyed when Sheamus won. With the lack of star power this was Jericho's rumble to win, and add another feather to his cap. In fairness it's not like Jericho needed it. Admittedly Sheamus probably didn't either, but which one of them shows up every week, doesn't kick flags, punch women or play atrocious metal and has a decade less wear and tear? as I said Sheamus won it because he was going to win at Mania. Jericho wasn't. If Jericho won the statistic of the rumble goes down to under 50% of Rumble winners win the title at mania and the WWE love pushing their statistics especially in the build up to the Rumble.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 9, 2019 0:30:15 GMT -5
Very underrated Rumble.
Let's be real, it's the only Rumble this side of the new millennium when you really had no idea who would win. There were five major storylines entering into it, and it really seemed like anybody's win at any point. Nobody the weak before could say "it's either definitely going to be this guy or this guy."
For that, it was a really special watch to see live. Yes, a lot of fans - this board included - were instantly soured by Jericho not winning it, but when you get passed your favorite not coming out on top, it was a very exciting watch and great to see in a party atmosphere.
Does it hold up on repeat viewings years later? Perhaps not, but then you get in the weird territory of evaluating wrestling events how it is in the vacuum of the network or in the context of as it aired.
I loved it.
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Post by Malibu Stacy on Jan 14, 2019 18:36:43 GMT -5
Enjoyed the crap out of it, both then and now. Kharma showing up and scaring Michael Cole into putting a stop to his obnoxious antics and eliminating himself made my night.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 18:44:05 GMT -5
I was a mark for Sheamus until the 18 seconds match.
I still like the guy but he was probably my favourite wrestler back then.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 14, 2019 18:45:51 GMT -5
Honestly? One of the better Rumbles of this decade. Like it's already been said, it was the most open field in forever. It's just nice to have a light, fun Rumble every now and then. But I also like the '95 Rumble precisely because it's such a glorious, cartoon trainwreck so who am I to have a valid opinion on anything? When it comes to bad rumbles like the 1995 one, I'd say that Royal Rumble matches are like what people always say about pizza: "even the bad ones are still pretty good". 1995 was indeed one of the worst Rumbles, but I would say it's still fun to re-watch once in a while, for one reason being that it's fun to play the game of "Hey, remember that wrestler? He was in that Rumble!"
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Post by Starshine on Jan 14, 2019 18:52:31 GMT -5
I was very confident that Sheamus was winning. They were giving him one of those low-key pre-Rumble pushes from about 6 months going into the show where he never won anything all that important but also just about never lost. It was pretty telling how they let him take a countout loss to Mark Henry instead of getting crushed and pinned like everyone else in his path. So anyone calling him an out of left field winner is either using revisionist history, or wasn't paying attention to SmackDown. It was either going to be him or Jericho, and since Jericho never won anything important in WWE post-2008 it was a pretty easy guess on who'd actually get the nod.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jan 14, 2019 19:35:46 GMT -5
Honestly? One of the better Rumbles of this decade. Like it's already been said, it was the most open field in forever. It's just nice to have a light, fun Rumble every now and then. But I also like the '95 Rumble precisely because it's such a glorious, cartoon trainwreck so who am I to have a valid opinion on anything? When it comes to bad rumbles like the 1995 one, I'd say that Royal Rumble matches are like what people always say about pizza: "even the bad ones are still pretty good". 1995 was indeed one of the worst Rumbles, but I would say it's still fun to re-watch once in a while, for one reason being that it's fun to play the game of "Hey, remember that wrestler? He was in that Rumble!" Yes, I think all of the Rumbles work on this basic level. Rewatching them really gives you a taste of what the roster was like 25, 15, or even 5 years ago.
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Post by KobashiChop on Jan 14, 2019 20:00:31 GMT -5
Granted not like it'd have been any better if Jericho had won with how shitty the Punk feud and match was. At least both of their rematches at Extreme Rules were great. I was just thinking today about how no one really talks about that Sheamus/Bryan 2 out of 3 falls match. Bryan was on fire in that match. I still maintain that if Sheamus had beaten Bryan in the 2 out of 3 falls match to win the title the backlash would never have happened. The babyface needs to earn the crowning moment, yeah sometimes there are exceptions but you can't expect him to sucker kick the heel and then walk around in a t shirt stating how quickly you won the belt and then people cheer the conquering hero. There's no sympathy or reason to get behind Sheamus. Especially after how much of a badass he was in late 2011. The fans loved him.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 15, 2019 16:06:41 GMT -5
When it comes to bad rumbles like the 1995 one, I'd say that Royal Rumble matches are like what people always say about pizza: "even the bad ones are still pretty good". 1995 was indeed one of the worst Rumbles, but I would say it's still fun to re-watch once in a while, for one reason being that it's fun to play the game of "Hey, remember that wrestler? He was in that Rumble!" Yes, I think all of the Rumbles work on this basic level. Rewatching them really gives you a taste of what the roster was like 25, 15, or even 5 years ago. I always think it's interesting how Rumbles can occasionally instantly date, because they're in January. They're all a window into the preceding year rather than the following one, outside of the winner (and sometimes even including the winner).
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