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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 8, 2019 22:20:05 GMT -5
No, it's NOT enough for her to be pushed. I'm not going to be fine with a story that isn't the one I want to see just because it involves someone I enjoy. I don't want to watch Charlotte, I think her presence actively diminishes the match and story, and I'm tired of her being made the center of the entire division solely because of who her dad is. If it just being a push for someone I like was enough I'd be lapping up Bryan's current f***ing awful run instead of changing the channel when he opens his mouth. She isn't the center of the division in this feud, she has been solely built as a cling on who won't go away and is jealous because Becky is in the spotlight I don't really get where people think this means Charlotte is the focus and she is stealing everything away from Becky. I mean f***ing look at some of you guys. Becky just won a Triple Threat for the Womens title and ya can't stop talking about how f***ed she is because Charlotte's either winning the Rumble or gonna be in the match with Rousey but nothing is even set in stone yet I think we need to take a breath here. One thing is for damn sure, WWE has been focused hard on Becky, and if you can't see that then you REALLY hate Charlotte that much... We don't need to take a breath. WWE needs to start doing better. Because they tell us they're going to and they're not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:20:58 GMT -5
Have people been sleepwalking the last few weeks on how all in WWE seems to be with Lynch. They had her f***ing humiliate Cena last week. Do they really think Charlotte is here to ruin everything and not add to the moment of cementing Becky's legacy when she has been one of the most important fixtures of it? This board needs a chill pill. Why does Charlotte NEED to be in every big moment related to Becky? Why does Charlotte NEED to be involved in every big moment, every "first", every "history making match"? Why can't Becky do one thing on her own without Charlotte being there? Is it because they want you to know that Charlotte is more important to them than Becky? Pretty sure it is. If Charlotte was deemed to be the evil WWEs chosen one, she would’ve beaten Becky at Evolution, she would’ve beaten Asuka and Becky at TLC, she would’ve beaten Ronda clean as a sheet at SSeries, she would’ve been the one to make Cena look like a fool. Hell, they would’ve continued to pipe in cheers for her instead of stopping at Evolution. There can be people in the WWE who are held in the same level of limelight while also not being this big conspiracy about how Vince hates and wants to spite his own fan base that gives him the money he needs to continue on, regardless of any business deals, contracts, sponsors, etc.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 8, 2019 22:21:16 GMT -5
Why does Charlotte NEED to be in every big moment related to Becky? Why does Charlotte NEED to be involved in every big moment, every "first", every "history making match"? Why can't Becky do one thing on her own without Charlotte being there? Is it because they want you to know that Charlotte is more important to them than Becky? Pretty sure it is. Ya'll seriously need to chill. Like seriously. The hate you have is clouding your judgment in I think a major way And this is coming from me, that's saying something. Me: *responds to you* You: YOU NEED TO cHIlL. Respond to my points if you want to have a discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:21:47 GMT -5
It's not that. They aren't cramming Charlotte in because they don't have faith in Becky. They're cramming Charlotte in so she can suck up Becky and Ronda's heat. Triple H 2.0 in a nutshell. Or to add star power to a main event, ala Wrestlemania 2000, which is where I think their head is at, along with probably providing a safety net in case Ronda blows it. She's still green as hell. Or The fact Bryan beat 3 guy on 1 night made Bryan kayfabe the greatest in 1 night in WWE history. Becky beating Ronda and Charlotte at the same time will only make her look greater. Yeah people wanna see a one on one but it makes perfect sense why this is happening.
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Post by Shark on Jan 8, 2019 22:21:52 GMT -5
Can I debunk this whole notion that Becky would beat Charlotte and Ronda in 1 night? It's a triple threat, only one person takes the fall. So if Becky wins, she only beats ONE of her rivals. There's no reason to do an elimination match and the reason you do a triple threat is to have one person in there who can take the loss so you can protect the other person. So, if the triple threat happens and Becky wins, she's probably pinning Charlotte and we get no actual conclusion to Becky vs Ronda.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:22:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't have an issue with Charlotte in a triple threat, so long as she's not winning it. Ideally, it'll be Becky with her arm raised. Does Charlotte get given a lot of opportunities? Yes. Did she also put over Becky again and again and again in a completely one-sided feud? Also yes. No pouting, no tantrum throwing, doing business. If I thought Charlotte was a prima donna, I'd feel differently, but as someone who loathed Charlotte at points, I think she's still deserving. No one "deserves" anything. Carmella busts her ass out there, but no one would argue that she "deserved" Charlotte's mega push. Yes, Charlotte can do twisty moonsaults and mean looking spears. But she also doesn't sell for shit and can't cut a promo to save her life. She's just a "chosen one" and the company ignores all logic to make sure she's featured in everything always. Carmella's a former world champion who was featured in major storylines for almost an entire year. What's your point here? It really just comes off that you hate Charlotte despite her role, and her role in this feud has been putting Becky over, like it or not, and if she were involved at Mania, that'd be why.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:22:30 GMT -5
No, it's NOT enough for her to be pushed. I'm not going to be fine with a story that isn't the one I want to see just because it involves someone I enjoy. I don't want to watch Charlotte, I think her presence actively diminishes the match and story, and I'm tired of her being made the center of the entire division solely because of who her dad is. If it just being a push for someone I like was enough I'd be lapping up Bryan's current f***ing awful run instead of changing the channel when he opens his mouth. She isn't the center of the division in this feud, she has been solely built as a cling on who won't go away and is jealous because Becky is in the spotlight I don't really get where people think this means Charlotte is the focus and she is stealing everything away from Becky. I mean f***ing look at some of you guys. Becky just won a Triple Threat for the Womens title and ya can't stop talking about how f***ed she is because Charlotte's either winning the Rumble or gonna be in the match with Rousey but nothing is even set in stone yet I think we need to take a breath here. One thing is for damn sure, WWE has been focused hard on Becky, and if you can't see that then you REALLY hate Charlotte that much... So, like, is there any particular reason why any time you dislike something you're very quick to rail against it and spew some vitrol but any time you like something and others don't you go on and on about how unfair people are being?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:23:25 GMT -5
Man some of the posters here fail to see a bright side in anything I swear. Nothing has even HAPPENED yet. Yeah, I get this company has burned so many people beforehand, but to let that ruin the entire experience for you and continue to complain when a full angle hasn’t played out yet, then maybe it’s time to watch a different program entirely. Becky vs. Ronda one on one has been THE match I've been wanting to see, but the triple threat is probably second so I'm good. It's not like it'd be Roman Reigns stinking up the joint for the fourth year in a row (God bless the dude, but yeesh). Just not something I think they need to do. A question that I think needs to be asked if the triple threat's the plan is: what does Asuka do at WM?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:23:34 GMT -5
She isn't the center of the division in this feud, she has been solely built as a cling on who won't go away and is jealous because Becky is in the spotlight I don't really get where people think this means Charlotte is the focus and she is stealing everything away from Becky. I mean f***ing look at some of you guys. Becky just won a Triple Threat for the Womens title and ya can't stop talking about how f***ed she is because Charlotte's either winning the Rumble or gonna be in the match with Rousey but nothing is even set in stone yet I think we need to take a breath here. One thing is for damn sure, WWE has been focused hard on Becky, and if you can't see that then you REALLY hate Charlotte that much... We don't need to take a breath. WWE needs to start doing better. Because they tell us they're going to and they're not. NOTHING HAS EVEN HAPPENED YET Ya'll are acting like the buildings are on fire when they're just standing there. I get being previously burned by this company, I've been there, but this is overreaction at its finest because "WWE sucks so I expect this to suck and everything to go wrong". It's ridiculous, the point we've reached on this board imo.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:25:41 GMT -5
She isn't the center of the division in this feud, she has been solely built as a cling on who won't go away and is jealous because Becky is in the spotlight I don't really get where people think this means Charlotte is the focus and she is stealing everything away from Becky. I mean f***ing look at some of you guys. Becky just won a Triple Threat for the Womens title and ya can't stop talking about how f***ed she is because Charlotte's either winning the Rumble or gonna be in the match with Rousey but nothing is even set in stone yet I think we need to take a breath here. One thing is for damn sure, WWE has been focused hard on Becky, and if you can't see that then you REALLY hate Charlotte that much... So, like, is there any particular reason why any time you dislike something you're very quick to rail against it and spew some vitrol but any time you like something and others don't you go on and on about how unfair people are being? I think you're being unfair because nothing has even happened yet and you're condemning the entire storyline and premise of Charlotte even being in it in the first place. I'm just saying that it really feels like people are calling for the end of Becky when right now, in this moment, she just won a match to face Asuka for the title and the Rumble hasn't even happened yet. Everyone's already acting like shits set in stone and gonna be bad. That bugs me. And trying to drag personal stuff into it about my character bugs me further, because none of that is even the point and you know it.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 8, 2019 22:26:17 GMT -5
We don't need to take a breath. WWE needs to start doing better. Because they tell us they're going to and they're not. NOTHING HAS EVEN HAPPENED YET Ya'll are acting like the buildings are on fire when they're just standing there. I get being previously burned by this company, I've been there, but this is overreaction at its finest because "WWE sucks so I expect this to suck and everything to go wrong". It's ridiculous, the point we've reached on this board imo. Nothing has even happened yet, but we can all see it. Like we see it every goddamn time. I don't care if Becky vs Ronda vs Charlotte is good. I don't care if it's f***ing amazing. As a story, Becky vs Ronda is the way to go. It's a better story and will create a better, more iconic image than a triple threat match, plain and simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:26:42 GMT -5
Can I debunk this whole notion that Becky would beat Charlotte and Ronda in 1 night? It's a triple threat, only one person takes the fall. So if Becky wins, she only beats ONE of her rivals. There's no reason to do an elimination match and the reason you do a triple threat is to have one person in there who can take the loss so you can protect the other person. So, if the triple threat happens and Becky wins, she's probably pinning Charlotte and we get no actual conclusion to Becky vs Ronda. That's not how this company does things. When someone wins a Rumble they say they beat 29 other superstars, when someone wins a 6 pack challenge they say they beat 5 other guys. It's been going on for decades and that won't change just because Becky pins Charlotte, she'll have beaten 2 women not just 1. There's 2 women that lost that match.
And as for her not having a resolution from Ronda, Becky not facing Ronda after that would instantly go against Ronda's entire character this past year. Would they really change Ronda's character just so she wouldn't face Becky? Doubt it. They haven't changed it thus far, no need to then.
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Post by hbkid718 on Jan 8, 2019 22:26:55 GMT -5
Here are the Facts & Stats for Smackdown: - R-Truth VS Daniel Bryan was both wrestlers’ 1st Smackdown match & opener of 2019 & was the 1st Non-Title Match of 2019 - Mustafa Ali & Rey Mysterio VS Andrade Almas & Samoa Joe was the 1st time that both teams teamed up & Joe was the 1st wrestler to compete in 3 matches in 2019 - The Usos VS The Bar was Jey & Jimmy Uso, Cesaro, & Sheamus’ 1st Smackdown match of 2019 - Carmella VS Charlotte Flair VS Becky Lynch was the 1st Triple Threat Match of 2019, everyone’s 1st Smackdown main event of 2019, Carmella & Flair’s 1st Smackdown match of 2019, & Lynch was the 1st woman to compete in 2 matches in 2019
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 8, 2019 22:27:37 GMT -5
This is interesting to me on a couple levels. 1. Asuka vs Becky 1 on 1 finna be lit. 2. How do we get to Becky vs Ronda from here? 3. I kinda sorta really want Asuka vs Ronda more than anything. Asuka is my girl, what can I say. Asuka vs. Ronda is definitely something they gotta do eventually. Hopefully when Ronda goes to SD on Fox. I still say Asuka Vs. Ronda will look like a PANCRASE match in a WWE ring. Not that's a bad thing mind you.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 8, 2019 22:27:49 GMT -5
because that the pattern with the wwe .
they give one day or moment of what you want and when they can get away with what they want they will try to.
the years of they trying to make Roman not seen like the guy.
the Bryan win just to be constantly beaten over and planned to be squashed by Lesnar.
the Punk winning the title, running the show just to become fodder for Triple H and Rock and Cena
that is just how they do things. and people don't want that. they are clear and tired of it, they want Becky and not Charlotte. accepting half away just lets wwe keep doing that shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:28:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I get this company has burned so many people beforehand, but to let that ruin the entire experience for you and continue to complain when a full angle hasn’t played out yet, then maybe it’s time to watch a different program entirely. Becky vs. Ronda one on one has been THE match I've been wanting to see, but the triple threat is probably second so I'm good. It's not like it'd be Roman Reigns stinking up the joint for the fourth year in a row (God bless the dude, but yeesh). Just not something I think they need to do. A question that I think needs to be asked if the triple threat happens is: what does Asuka do at WM? I've been feeling for a while that Asuka's going to get a multi-women match. She's got no real opponents, she'll crush them all and keep herself strong. Afterwards Charlotte will say "you weren't main eventing, I've beaten you once and I can do it again, I deserve to be champion" and feud with Asuka again.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 8, 2019 22:28:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't have an issue with Charlotte in a triple threat, so long as she's not winning it. Ideally, it'll be Becky with her arm raised. Does Charlotte get given a lot of opportunities? Yes. Did she also put over Becky again and again and again in a completely one-sided feud? Also yes. No pouting, no tantrum throwing, doing business. If I thought Charlotte was a prima donna, I'd feel differently, but as someone who loathed Charlotte at points, I think she's still deserving. No one "deserves" anything. Carmella busts her ass out there, but no one would argue that she "deserved" Charlotte's mega push. Yes, Charlotte can do twisty moonsaults and mean looking spears. But she also doesn't sell for shit and can't cut a promo to save her life. She's just a "chosen one" and the company ignores all logic to make sure she's featured in everything always. Carmella was given a push for months, something she didn't rise to the occasion of, before moving to her current, more comfortable position.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:29:30 GMT -5
NOTHING HAS EVEN HAPPENED YET Ya'll are acting like the buildings are on fire when they're just standing there. I get being previously burned by this company, I've been there, but this is overreaction at its finest because "WWE sucks so I expect this to suck and everything to go wrong". It's ridiculous, the point we've reached on this board imo. Nothing has even happened yet, but we can all see it. Like we see it every goddamn time. I don't care if Becky vs Ronda vs Charlotte is good. I don't care if it's f***ing amazing. As a story, Becky vs Ronda is the way to go. It's a better story and will create a better, more iconic image than a triple threat match, plain and simple. And this is where the problem lies, to me it's all very bias laced. And I can understand that because I've been there, as others have not so politely pointed out. But to me, Charlotte has not been a focus at all in the feud, if anything she's been used to build Becky up more, and to me, her beating Rousey would be amazing, but her beating Rousey and the bitch who won't leave her alone and thinks she is the greatest thing ever, makes it even more monumental. Charlotte being in that main event just to be humiliated would be something I'd love to see, on top of that, it would greatly improve the quality of the match since Ronda is green as shit and probably give WWE more incentive to make it the main event. Yes it's Charlotte, I've hated her overbooking as much as the next guy... but big picture wise? This is all being built to help Becky... and I really don't see a problem with it, if that's the end game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:30:14 GMT -5
because that the pattern with the wwe . they give one day or moment of what you want and when they can get away with what they want they will try to. the years of they trying to make Roman not seen like the guy. the Bryan win just to be constantly beaten over and planned to be squashed by Lesnar. the Punk winning the title, running the show just to become fodder for Triple H and Rock and Cena that is just how they do things. and people don't want that. they are clear and tired of it, they want Becky and not Charlotte. accepting half away just lets wwe keep doing that shit. And keep in mind, this isn’t some evil doing by a dude who hates husbands audience. This is a man who genuinely thinks his ideas are what the audience wants. To add to that point, I get why most would be jaded, but at least have a tiny bit of optimism inside that this’ll lead somewhere.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 8, 2019 22:30:29 GMT -5
No one "deserves" anything. Carmella busts her ass out there, but no one would argue that she "deserved" Charlotte's mega push. Yes, Charlotte can do twisty moonsaults and mean looking spears. But she also doesn't sell for shit and can't cut a promo to save her life. She's just a "chosen one" and the company ignores all logic to make sure she's featured in everything always. Carmella's a former world champion who was featured in major storylines for almost an entire year. What's your point here? It really just comes off that you hate Charlotte despite her role, and her role in this feud has been putting Becky over, like it or not, and if she were involved at Mania, that'd be why. I do hate Charlotte as a character, but that isn't why I hate the idea of a triple threat. I hate it because the biggest matches in WrestleMania history have always been singles matches between your two biggest stars. In the women's division, that's Becky and Ronda. At least if you go by crowd reaction. Charlotte's involvement is nothing more than the company wanting her to be a part of it too because she's their favorite, even if logic dictates she should be elsewhere on the card. Also, how many firsts and big moments have they already given her? Now look at how many Becky has. Charlotte's had her time in the sun. Becky got herself more over in 3 months than Charlotte has in 3 years. That's not a dig, it's just a fact. You didn't see a third wheel in Austin vs. Rock, and we don't need one in Ronda vs. Becky.
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