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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:30:53 GMT -5
Becky vs. Ronda one on one has been THE match I've been wanting to see, but the triple threat is probably second so I'm good. It's not like it'd be Roman Reigns stinking up the joint for the fourth year in a row (God bless the dude, but yeesh). Just not something I think they need to do. A question that I think needs to be asked if the triple threat happens is: what does Asuka do at WM? I've been feeling for a while that Asuka's going to get a multi-women match. She's got no real opponents, she'll crush them all and keep herself strong. Afterwards Charlotte will say "you weren't main eventing, I've beaten you once and I can do it again, I deserve to be champion" and feud with Asuka again. I guess they could build up Nikki Cross as a legitimate challenger in the coming months, but a multi-women match wouldn't be a surprise. Honestly? I still think they should move Ember to SD and start that feud back up.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:31:01 GMT -5
because that the pattern with the wwe . they give one day or moment of what you want and when they can get away with what they want they will try to. the years of they trying to make Roman not seen like the guy. the Bryan win just to be constantly beaten over and planned to be squashed by Lesnar. the Punk winning the title, running the show just to become fodder for Triple H and Rock and Cena that is just how they do things. and people don't want that. they are clear and tired of it, they want Becky and not Charlotte. accepting half away just lets wwe keep doing that shit. I think it's rather sad that a company can beat people over the head so badly that even when something good happens or even something sounds promising could happen, they just don't care anymore or expect the worst It's like a very abusive relationship, watching this company, isn't it?
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Post by Dub H on Jan 8, 2019 22:32:12 GMT -5
because that the pattern with the wwe . they give one day or moment of what you want and when they can get away with what they want they will try to. the years of they trying to make Roman not seen like the guy. the Bryan win just to be constantly beaten over and planned to be squashed by Lesnar. the Punk winning the title, running the show just to become fodder for Triple H and Rock and Cena that is just how they do things. and people don't want that. they are clear and tired of it, they want Becky and not Charlotte. accepting half away just lets wwe keep doing that shit. I think it's rather sad that a company can beat people over the head so badly that even when something good happens or even something sounds promising could happen, they just don't care anymore or expect the worst It's like avery abusive relationship, watching this company, isn't it? oh I dotn disagree . I made the very same comparison. I said I'm only watching WWE again and buying the show if Becky vs Ronda main events. and I'm sticking to it. I still enjoy talking here and keeping up with the threads when I can. Maybe I should also avoid that.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:32:30 GMT -5
Carmella's a former world champion who was featured in major storylines for almost an entire year. What's your point here? It really just comes off that you hate Charlotte despite her role, and her role in this feud has been putting Becky over, like it or not, and if she were involved at Mania, that'd be why. I do hate Charlotte as a character, but that isn't why I hate the idea of a triple threat. I hate it because the biggest matches in WrestleMania history have always been singles matches between your two biggest stars. In the women's division, that's Becky and Ronda. At least if you go by crowd reaction. Charlotte's involvement is nothing more than the company wanting her to be a part of it too because she's their favorite, even if logic dictates she should be elsewhere on the card. Also, how many firsts and big moments have they already given her? Now look at how many Becky has. Charlotte's had her time in the sun. Becky got herself more over in 3 months than Charlotte has in 3 years. That's not a dig, it's just a fact. You didn't see a third wheel in Austin vs. Rock, and we don't need one in Ronda vs. Becky. Im still falling back on the heels of this is all speculation and none of it has even happened yet. For all we know, Becky/Ronda is still the plan.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jan 8, 2019 22:33:06 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about the Women's Rumble match than Mania. It feels like it just became a chore to watch.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:33:14 GMT -5
I think it's rather sad that a company can beat people over the head so badly that even when something good happens or even something sounds promising could happen, they just don't care anymore or expect the worst It's like avery abusive relationship, watching this company, isn't it? oh I dotn disagree . I made the very same comparison. I said I'm only watching wwe again if Becky vcs Ronda main events. and I'm sticking to it. I still enjoy talking here and keeping up with the threads when I can. Maybe I should also avoid that. I always the more the merrier in these threads, even when it comes to heated debates.
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 8, 2019 22:33:18 GMT -5
Becky vs. Ronda one on one has been THE match I've been wanting to see, but the triple threat is probably second so I'm good. It's not like it'd be Roman Reigns stinking up the joint for the fourth year in a row (God bless the dude, but yeesh). Just not something I think they need to do. A question that I think needs to be asked if the triple threat happens is: what does Asuka do at WM? I've been feeling for a while that Asuka's going to get a multi-women match. She's got no real opponents, she'll crush them all and keep herself strong. Afterwards Charlotte will say "you weren't main eventing, I've beaten you once and I can do it again, I deserve to be champion" and feud with Asuka again. I see Ember being the one to dethrone Asuka after WM if the move her to SDL.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 8, 2019 22:33:34 GMT -5
Nothing has even happened yet, but we can all see it. Like we see it every goddamn time. I don't care if Becky vs Ronda vs Charlotte is good. I don't care if it's f***ing amazing. As a story, Becky vs Ronda is the way to go. It's a better story and will create a better, more iconic image than a triple threat match, plain and simple. And this is where the problem lies, to me it's all very bias laced. And I can understand that because I've been there, as others have not so politely pointed out. But to me, Charlotte has not been a focus at all in the feud, if anything she's been used to build Becky up more, and to me, her beating Rousey would be amazing, but her beating Rousey and the bitch who won't leave her alone and thinks she is the greatest thing ever, makes it even more monumental. Charlotte being in that main event just to be humiliated would be something I'd love to see, on top of that, it would greatly improve the quality of the match since Ronda is green as shit and probably give WWE more incentive to make it the main event. Yes it's Charlotte, I've hated her overbooking as much as the next guy... but big picture wise? This is all being built to help Becky... and I really don't see a problem with it, if that's the end game. No it won't. Triple Threats are B-level, post-WrestleMania matches. Or they're used to "throw the fans a bone" by adding in "that one the people won't shut up about". An iconic WrestleMania title match is one on one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:33:41 GMT -5
On a lighter note, looking up results this show REALLY overdid it on sneak attacks. Show had five of them.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 8, 2019 22:34:19 GMT -5
NOTHING HAS EVEN HAPPENED YET Ya'll are acting like the buildings are on fire when they're just standing there. I get being previously burned by this company, I've been there, but this is overreaction at its finest because "WWE sucks so I expect this to suck and everything to go wrong". It's ridiculous, the point we've reached on this board imo. Nothing has even happened yet, but we can all see it. Like we see it every goddamn time. I don't care if Becky vs Ronda vs Charlotte is good. I don't care if it's f***ing amazing. As a story, Becky vs Ronda is the way to go. It's a better story and will create a better, more iconic image than a triple threat match, plain and simple. I get the frustration, I do, but "Like we see it every goddamn time" is kind of the key here. We don't. We've been wrong, but we learn no humility, and the next time Vince's big dumb idea is staring us on the horizon, we charge forward, confident about how we're so ahead of the curve, forgetting the times it didn't happen like we thought it would. I distinctly remember people so confident they'd bet the farm on the idea Triple H would challenge Brock to some submission or MMA match to get his win back, tapping him out. When Triple H got a fluke pin in a regular-ass match, people still took their victory lap, despite it not really fitting what they called at all. We may as well just flip a coin and call it if that's all that matters. We can dread, we can fear, but we can also slow the f*** down and remember we've been wrong before before getting ready to snarl at each other on here. WWE Current doesn't need to be a f***ing pissing match every time people think Vince is about to pull the rug out from under someone we're rooting for, or we could do this literally daily.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 8, 2019 22:35:42 GMT -5
And this is where the problem lies, to me it's all very bias laced. And I can understand that because I've been there, as others have not so politely pointed out. But to me, Charlotte has not been a focus at all in the feud, if anything she's been used to build Becky up more, and to me, her beating Rousey would be amazing, but her beating Rousey and the bitch who won't leave her alone and thinks she is the greatest thing ever, makes it even more monumental. Charlotte being in that main event just to be humiliated would be something I'd love to see, on top of that, it would greatly improve the quality of the match since Ronda is green as shit and probably give WWE more incentive to make it the main event. Yes it's Charlotte, I've hated her overbooking as much as the next guy... but big picture wise? This is all being built to help Becky... and I really don't see a problem with it, if that's the end game. No it won't. Triple Threats are B-level, post-WrestleMania matches. Or they're used to "throw the fans a bone" by adding in "that one the people won't shut up about". An iconic WrestleMania title match is one on one. Bryan was the exception for the rule because in one night he beaten everyone that screwed him over. but usually it is just as you said the third person is to thrown a bone and usually doesn't feel that special as an one on one
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:37:01 GMT -5
Honestly this whole thing reminds me of Mania 24. The entire story was Cena getting his revenge on Orton and taking the title back, that's what every bit of the build added up to, but no we've gotta put Triple H in there because he wanted yet another title match and we've gotta have Orton win because we went and wrote him as too big of a loser in the lead-up not to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:37:20 GMT -5
On a lighter note, looking up results this show REALLY overdid it on sneak attacks. Show had five of them. THERE WERE FIVE OF THEM!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:37:39 GMT -5
She isn't the center of the division in this feud, she has been solely built as a cling on who won't go away and is jealous because Becky is in the spotlight I don't really get where people think this means Charlotte is the focus and she is stealing everything away from Becky. I mean f***ing look at some of you guys. Becky just won a Triple Threat for the Womens title and ya can't stop talking about how f***ed she is because Charlotte's either winning the Rumble or gonna be in the match with Rousey but nothing is even set in stone yet I think we need to take a breath here. One thing is for damn sure, WWE has been focused hard on Becky, and if you can't see that then you REALLY hate Charlotte that much... So, like, is there any particular reason why any time you dislike something you're very quick to rail against it and spew some vitrol but any time you like something and others don't you go on and on about how unfair people are being? I wanna come back to this quote actually. Like, isn't this how wrestling opinions and opinions in general work? If someone hates something, they hate it and give their opinion as to why, and if they like it, they defend it? Why is this a special thing with me you want to point out? This is human nature, it's how fandoms work. You like, you don't like , you debate, you agree, you disagree. I don't know why you're trying to use this to scathe my character or how I present myself in arguments. Like anyone, I present and debate my opinions accordingly. It'd be the same way if the tables were flipped and I didn't like the idea and you did, there's no intent behind it, I'm just expressing my view and how I see things good or bad. In this case, it felt like people were missing the point and I was arguing the stance for the Triple Threat. So my bad if it came off in any derogatory way, because that wasn't what I was trying to do, but I always thought this is how opinions and thoughts usually work... especially in an opinionated world such as wrestling on a wrestling forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:37:52 GMT -5
Nothing has even happened yet, but we can all see it. Like we see it every goddamn time. I don't care if Becky vs Ronda vs Charlotte is good. I don't care if it's f***ing amazing. As a story, Becky vs Ronda is the way to go. It's a better story and will create a better, more iconic image than a triple threat match, plain and simple. I get the frustration, I do, but "Like we see it every goddamn time" is kind of the key here. We don't. We've been wrong, but we learn no humility, and the next time Vince's big dumb idea is staring us on the horizon, we charge forward, confident about how we're so ahead of the curve, forgetting the times it didn't happen like we thought it would. I distinctly remember people so confident they'd bet the farm on the idea Triple H would challenge Brock to some submission or MMA match to get his win back, tapping him out. When Triple H got a fluke pin in a regular-ass match, people still took their victory lap, despite it not really fitting what they called at all. We may as well just flip a coin and call it if that's all that matters. We can dread, we can fear, but we can also slow the f*** down and remember we've been wrong before before getting ready to snarl at each other on here. WWE Current doesn't need to be a f***ing pissing match every time people think Vince is about to pull the rug out from under someone we're rooting for, or we could do this literally daily. Amen to every single word of this. Took the words right out of my mouth. This place becomes a real drag at times. Not because most opinions dont align with mine, but because the majority have been burned so many times that they just take the piss out of every little thing WWE does and act like they know it’s going to be gloom and doom when an angle or match has barely began or started. It’s a super pessimistic way of thinking and it’s not healthy in the slightest imo.
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Post by abjordans on Jan 8, 2019 22:38:26 GMT -5
because that the pattern with the wwe . they give one day or moment of what you want and when they can get away with what they want they will try to. the years of they trying to make Roman not seen like the guy. the Bryan win just to be constantly beaten over and planned to be squashed by Lesnar. the Punk winning the title, running the show just to become fodder for Triple H and Rock and Cena that is just how they do things. and people don't want that. they are clear and tired of it, they want Becky and not Charlotte. accepting half away just lets wwe keep doing that shit. WWE makes mistakes, but people also aren’t fair. Daniel Bryan wasn’t “constantly beaten”, he vacated the belt a month after winning it. He beat Kane in their PPV match after winning the belt. They had Lesnar squash Cena, it wasn’t like it was set to be a personal burial of Bryan. Oh yea, he is also the WWE Champ as I type. CM Punk was WWE Champion for almost 500 days. The people are getting Becky, she just won the main event. She is the focus of Smackdown. She is in the title match of the second biggest PPV of the year. She is *probably* going to be in the main event of Wrestlemania. How much more Becky can you get?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 8, 2019 22:38:32 GMT -5
I do hate Charlotte as a character, but that isn't why I hate the idea of a triple threat. I hate it because the biggest matches in WrestleMania history have always been singles matches between your two biggest stars. In the women's division, that's Becky and Ronda. At least if you go by crowd reaction. Charlotte's involvement is nothing more than the company wanting her to be a part of it too because she's their favorite, even if logic dictates she should be elsewhere on the card. Also, how many firsts and big moments have they already given her? Now look at how many Becky has. Charlotte's had her time in the sun. Becky got herself more over in 3 months than Charlotte has in 3 years. That's not a dig, it's just a fact. You didn't see a third wheel in Austin vs. Rock, and we don't need one in Ronda vs. Becky. Im still falling back on the heels of this is all speculation and none of it has even happened yet. For all we know, Becky/Ronda is still the plan. With WWE, when writing is on the wall, it's in giant neon lettering. We all called Roman's lousy Rumble win. We all called Rock beating CM Punk after Cena won the Rumble. We all called Braun losing to Lesnar. This company doesn't do subtlety. When they have their mind made up about something, it's obvious for months.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 8, 2019 22:39:26 GMT -5
Plus If they are going to tout they are changing and giving what the fans want then you as the fan make sure they do.
Don't accept halfway, yeah the triple threat can still be good but it's not what fans have been wanting all this time. You charge them that change.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 8, 2019 22:39:53 GMT -5
No it won't. Triple Threats are B-level, post-WrestleMania matches. Or they're used to "throw the fans a bone" by adding in "that one the people won't shut up about". An iconic WrestleMania title match is one on one. Bryan was the exception for the rule because in one night he beaten everyone that screwed him over. but usually it is just as you said the third person is to thrown a bone and usually doesn't feel that special as an one on one But Bryan WAS added in to throw the fans a bone. He was added into TWO matches to be thrown that bone, because he wasn't scheduled to be in either. Bryan was supposed to have his 800th Mania match with f***ing Sheamus. CM Punk was going to face Triple H, and Randy Orton vs Batista was going to be one on one. CM Punk left and the fans wouldn't stop, so WWE had no choice. The fans demanded that WWE finished the story they started logically or the fan revolt would never subside.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2019 22:40:22 GMT -5
Im still falling back on the heels of this is all speculation and none of it has even happened yet. For all we know, Becky/Ronda is still the plan. With WWE, when writing is on the wall, it's in giant neon lettering. We all called Roman's lousy Rumble win. We all called Rock beating CM Punk after Cena won the Rumble. We all called Braun losing to Lesnar. This company doesn't do subtlety. When they have their mind made up about something, it's obvious for months. Ok but, hear me out here... reports about Becky/Ronda being the Mania match were what was reported months ago, and what were still being reported weeks ago...
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