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Post by burdette25159 on Jan 8, 2019 22:08:18 GMT -5
Star Trek the motion picture while it did good in the box office, the original theatrical version (especially the visual FX) was a victim of a rush job to make a holiday season release date deadline giving it the nickname "Star Trek: The Motionless picture"
10 years later, William Shatner's Star Trek V: The Final Frontier was a casualty of the superstacked 1989 Summer Movie Season, this combined with bad visual effects (ILM was unavailable as they were busy with making visual effects for other movies) and bad reviews on top of the fact that it was an odd numbered Star Trek film sealed Star Trek 5's fate.
Transformers: The Movie came out the same day as Stand By Me
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 8, 2019 22:47:56 GMT -5
Poor UHF got slaughtered by the ridiculously strong 1989 summer movie season which had the likes of Batman, the Last Crusade, Ghostbusters II, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and Lethal Weapon 2. I'm still convinced someone in Disney arranged for Winnie the Pooh to go against the last Harry Potter film to use its disappointing box office as an excuse not to do 2D animation anymore. Another victim of the Summer of 1989 movie season was License to Kill, It was originally going to be called "License Revoked" before it became clear that many people don't know what "Revoked" is, no wonder there hasn't been a Bond film released in the summer since. Star Trek Nemesis came out just before Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Oh people learned what "Revoked" meant that summer, though not from a Bond film (and not in a traditional sense either).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:13:25 GMT -5
The Last Action Hero could've been a serviceable summer blockbuster, but releasing it against Jurassic Park led it to become a box office flop. Shame, as the film is a very clever pastiche on action movies. It also has one of the best original soundtracks of all time, imo. Perhaps notoriously, Buckaroo Bonzai. It was released in the wake of Star Wars and Alien. It couldn't compete with those other space-genre juggernaunts...and I think it wasn't even marketed properly iirc? A morbid example, and one that isn't at all the fault of the studio...The Dark Knight Rises. If that horrible event didn't occur, TDKR might have done at least as good as TDK at the box office. I can't remember what else was out at the time, though.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 8, 2019 23:21:50 GMT -5
The Last Action Hero could've been a serviceable summer blockbuster, but releasing it against Jurassic Park led it to become a box office flop. Shame, as the film is a very clever pastiche on action movies. Also somehow it seemed a lot of critics didn't get that it was satire.
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 8, 2019 23:21:55 GMT -5
I'm still convinced someone in Disney arranged for Winnie the Pooh to go against the last Harry Potter film to use its disappointing box office as an excuse not to do 2D animation anymore. Wasn't the first time they put an animated film against a Harry Potter movie...
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Jan 9, 2019 0:22:14 GMT -5
"Welcome to Marwen" is currently bombing at the box office, and while I haven't seen it and thus can't judge its quality, I can't help but feel that releasing it around the same season as Aquaman, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, and Ralph Breaks the Internet cant have helped.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 9, 2019 2:41:57 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Battleship, but I think what hurt that movie was that it was released between The Avengers and Men In Black 3. I remember that it was initially set for an April release, but I guess Universal wanted to release it for the summer. It didn't do well out here.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jan 9, 2019 3:08:07 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate, I don't think opening UHF with Batman was that bad of an idea. When it came out, my parents and I originally went to see Batman. It was sold out so I went to see UHF and my parents went to another movie that I can't remember. I think the studios counted it as a check down movie.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jan 9, 2019 4:25:01 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Battleship, but I think what hurt that movie was that it was released between The Avengers and Men In Black 3. I remember that it was initially set for an April release, but I guess Universal wanted to release it for the summer. It didn't do well out here. Not that it was based off of a board game and looked like a Transformers ripoff?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 9, 2019 7:25:24 GMT -5
Stir of Echoes came out in the same year as the Sixth Sense.
Damn shame, as I think it was a better movie/
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jan 9, 2019 8:27:14 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Battleship, but I think what hurt that movie was that it was released between The Avengers and Men In Black 3. I remember that it was initially set for an April release, but I guess Universal wanted to release it for the summer. It didn't do well out here. Funny thing is that Battleship was released two weeks before Avengers in Australia, still didn't help it though
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Post by realist on Jan 9, 2019 8:35:01 GMT -5
John Cena had an animated movie that came out about a bull or something. I think it was called "Ferdinand." I remember thinking that was going to be his first major hit. It was an animated film starring a man that kids love. What could possibly go wrong? Then, I saw that it was coming out the same day as a Star Wars movie.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 9, 2019 8:48:24 GMT -5
"Welcome to Marwen" is currently bombing at the box office, and while I haven't seen it and thus can't judge its quality, I can't help but feel that releasing it around the same season as Aquaman, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, and Ralph Breaks the Internet cant have helped. The release makes sense to me as counter-programming for adults against three films aimed at kids and teenagers. I think the awful reviews and buzz hurt it exponentially more than the release date.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 9, 2019 9:13:58 GMT -5
Poor UHF got slaughtered by the ridiculously strong 1989 summer movie season which had the likes of Batman, the Last Crusade, Ghostbusters II, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and Lethal Weapon 2. Yeah this was the first that came to mind. Second on Solo. The Lone Ranger was up against Man of Steel, Iron Man 3, This is The End, The Purge, and The Wolverine released a few weeks later and was DOA with mixed reviews I don't think the Lone Ranger had a chance of making it's money back regardless. Yeah, that thing could have opened against a romantic comedy and an Oscar bait period piece and still flopped. Usually a film that fails in theaters due only to stiff competition does really well on home video. Lone Ranger bombed on that front, too.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 9, 2019 9:35:13 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thought UHF simply wasn't very good? I love Weird Al, but UHF is tv movie level at best and wouldn't have had much success whatever it was run against. Did running against blockbusters help? Not really, but there were bigger issues at play.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 9, 2019 9:47:05 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thought UHF simply wasn't very good? I love Weird Al, but UHF is tv movie level at best and wouldn't have had much success whatever it was run against. Did running against blockbusters help? Not really, but there were bigger issues at play.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 9, 2019 10:59:45 GMT -5
I just remembered something. I remembered reading somewhere that White House Down was initially supposed to be released in November 2013, but was given the June 2013 release. However, there were other movies that came out around that same time that killed its chances of being a hit. I think another factor was that Olympus Has Fallen came out three months before and the comparisons were already running wild (Two similar movies coming out around the same time is nothing new, but the comparisons didn't help).
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2019 11:23:05 GMT -5
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World I thought was a pretty fun, weird comedy, but it came out around the same period as the first Expendables movie and “Eat Pray Love”, causing it to be drowned out box office wise.
Both movies are classics now but E.T also overwhelmed The Secret Of NIMH commercially in 1982.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2019 11:27:11 GMT -5
I'm still convinced someone in Disney arranged for Winnie the Pooh to go against the last Harry Potter film to use its disappointing box office as an excuse not to do 2D animation anymore. Wasn't the first time they put an animated film against a Harry Potter movie... As a long time Treasure Planet apologist, that one also hurts. Before that there was also Disney’s Atlantis, another Disney action feature that had to deal with A.I. and the first Fast and the Furious/Tomb Raider films.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 9, 2019 12:02:33 GMT -5
Murder in the First was an odd sort of flop, since it was in theory meant to be Oscar bait but for whatever reason was released in Jan. 1995. As such it just kinda tanked.
Mamma Mia should not be in this category at all though. It made 144 million domestic and about 610 million worldwide, which actually makes it ideal counter programming to something like The Dark Knight.
I think another category that might be interesting is movies that just didn't connect even in a barren marketplace. The Big Lebowski came out in March 1998, which I guess still had Titanic doing well but otherwise it wasn't that loaded (though there were several other new releases that weekend like US Marshals, Twilight, and Hush). The Princess Bride came out wide in Oct. 1987 and mostly just Fatal Attraction was out, which wasn't aiming for the same audience.
The funny thing about The Big Lebowski is that the movie was always quite popular in Louisville. I remember seeing it at the 2nd run Village 8 in the Summer of 1998, and the theater was actually packed with a bunch of old people from a nearby nursing home. So it's really no shock that Lebowskifest takes place here every year. I think it is mostly due to everything in that film being something that would resonate with a Louisville audience: Crazy redneck Vietnam vets, bowling culture, stoner culture, hipster stoner culture, hipster yuppie culture. In fact aside from the porn subplot the film doesn't even seem as much like 1990-91 era L.A. and more like 1995 era Louisville.
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