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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 13:45:44 GMT -5
Where is LU locking up anyone or preventing them from using the exposure elsewhere?
Penta and Fenix? working MLW , AAA , CMLL , IMPACT and indies
Cage: Working Impact , AAA , indies
Taya , Impact , AAA , indies
Kobra Moon/Thunder Rosa: ROH , WoW , indies
Ricky Banderas is using the Mil Muertes character all over the indies
No one in LU is being held against their will or making money off their characters after contracts were restructred prior to season 4 and I pointed out.......Cobb , Bael , Strickland , agenlico , jack evans no issues with their releases.
This is my issue with people generalizing LU is the overall problem.....when above shows differently , this is DORIAN letting his personal f***ing issues with someone come into play and he wants to f*** with them.
And another thing people may not know about how LU works
The TV people are all freelance they do not work for "LU" because there is no "LU"...and this is where people get lost or just plain ignore.
EVW works for MGM he looks out for MGM's best interest same with Mark Burnett
Chris Dejoseph and Chris Roash are freelance....they work in big brother ....Chris Roach makes movies he is doing Fantasy Island
The only people that have an actual investment in LU...is the LLC and Dorian because LLC owns the IP and Dorian gets AAA talent into the states via LU.....and this is why directing the blame at LU as a whole baffles me because again THERE IS NO LU as a company it is a show people are paid to produce.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 16, 2019 16:26:03 GMT -5
Where is LU locking up anyone or preventing them from using the exposure elsewhere? Penta and Fenix? working MLW , AAA , CMLL , IMPACT and indies Cage: Working Impact , AAA , indies Taya , Impact , AAA , indies Kobra Moon/Thunder Rosa: ROH , WoW , indies Ricky Banderas is using the Mil Muertes character all over the indies No one in LU is being held against their will or making money off their characters after contracts were restructred prior to season 4 and I pointed out.......Cobb , Bael , Strickland , agenlico , jack evans no issues with their releases. This is my issue with people generalizing LU is the overall problem.....when above shows differently , this is DORIAN letting his personal f***ing issues with someone come into play and he wants to f*** with them. And another thing people may not know about how LU works The TV people are all freelance they do not work for "LU" because there is no "LU"...and this is where people get lost or just plain ignore. EVW works for MGM he looks out for MGM's best interest same with Mark Burnett Chris Dejoseph and Chris Roash are freelance....they work in big brother ....Chris Roach makes movies he is doing Fantasy Island The only people that have an actual investment in LU...is the LLC and Dorian because LLC owns the IP and Dorian gets AAA talent into the states via LU.....and this is why directing the blame at LU as a whole baffles me because again THERE IS NO LU as a company it is a show people are paid to produce. That’s really, really splitting hairs man. Obviously when someone is blaming LU, they mean the people running LU. It’s just in a wrestling context, it’s easier to refer to the promotion. Just because their contract says MGM instead of Lucha Underground doesn’t mean they have no responsibility towards the show they’re running. If they’re aware of somebody getting dicked around who works on their show, they should step in and do something. Gillette literally just put out a commercial about how men shouldn’t be turning a blind eye when some is bullying or harassing. If I’m show runner on Criminal Minds, I’m contracted to CBS not to Criminal Minds. But I’m still responsible if I allow Tomas Gibson to treat people like shit EDIT: When people say WalMart treats employees like shit, they’re referring to the management not the corporate entity. It’s just easier to say WalMart then start listing off names
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 16, 2019 21:02:52 GMT -5
Jeff Cobb and Joey Ryan have since tweeted support of Ivelisse
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 21, 2019 1:33:02 GMT -5
Jeff Cobb and Joey Ryan have since tweeted support of Ivelisse Good on them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 2:25:50 GMT -5
Say there does end up being a next season of LU. Through all of this, it's only going to lead to unmotivated performers who aren't going to work as hard for the company going forward.
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Post by Rave on Jan 21, 2019 4:14:59 GMT -5
FFS, Dorian. Just let her go. She's not worth the fight and certainly not worth the utter shitstorm over this.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 21, 2019 9:37:35 GMT -5
Where is LU locking up anyone or preventing them from using the exposure elsewhere? Penta and Fenix? working MLW , AAA , CMLL , IMPACT and indies Cage: Working Impact , AAA , indies Taya , Impact , AAA , indies Kobra Moon/Thunder Rosa: ROH , WoW , indies Ricky Banderas is using the Mil Muertes character all over the indies No one in LU is being held against their will or making money off their characters after contracts were restructred prior to season 4 and I pointed out.......Cobb , Bael , Strickland , agenlico , jack evans no issues with their releases. This is my issue with people generalizing LU is the overall problem.....when above shows differently , this is DORIAN letting his personal f***ing issues with someone come into play and he wants to f*** with them. And another thing people may not know about how LU works The TV people are all freelance they do not work for "LU" because there is no "LU"...and this is where people get lost or just plain ignore. EVW works for MGM he looks out for MGM's best interest same with Mark Burnett Chris Dejoseph and Chris Roash are freelance....they work in big brother ....Chris Roach makes movies he is doing Fantasy Island The only people that have an actual investment in LU...is the LLC and Dorian because LLC owns the IP and Dorian gets AAA talent into the states via LU.....and this is why directing the blame at LU as a whole baffles me because again THERE IS NO LU as a company it is a show people are paid to produce. That’s really, really splitting hairs man. Obviously when someone is blaming LU, they mean the people running LU. It’s just in a wrestling context, it’s easier to refer to the promotion. Just because their contract says MGM instead of Lucha Underground doesn’t mean they have no responsibility towards the show they’re running. If they’re aware of somebody getting dicked around who works on their show, they should step in and do something. Gillette literally just put out a commercial about how men shouldn’t be turning a blind eye when some is bullying or harassing. If I’m show runner on Criminal Minds, I’m contracted to CBS not to Criminal Minds. But I’m still responsible if I allow Tomas Gibson to treat people like shit EDIT: When people say WalMart treats employees like shit, they’re referring to the management not the corporate entity. It’s just easier to say WalMart then start listing off names yeah it's sort of like if when Eric Bischoff was running WCW he said "I can't do anything about Hogan/Hall/Nash being a headache they work for TBS, not WCW".
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Post by tenshi on Jan 21, 2019 12:04:18 GMT -5
FFS, Dorian. Just let her go. She's not worth the fight and certainly not worth the utter shitstorm over this. Now that you mention it, was he around when Christina Von Eerie had problems that made her leave AAA?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:31:05 GMT -5
Say there does end up being a next season of LU. Through all of this, it's only going to lead to unmotivated performers who aren't going to work as hard for the company going forward. The long wait between seasons 1 and 2 The almost 6 month wait because El Rey chose to split season 3 in half out the f*** out of nowhere Ricochet bitching publicly because of said splitting of season They showed up motivated after all of that and this wont suddenly kill their love of the show not a single one talks badly about the TV end because those are the good guys in all of this. And she has since deleted the tweet anyways and hell if things about Ive being an headcase to work with is true there is probably a big sigh of relief she is gone
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Post by Rave on Jan 21, 2019 14:44:28 GMT -5
FFS, Dorian. Just let her go. She's not worth the fight and certainly not worth the utter shitstorm over this. Now that you mention it, was he around when Christina Von Eerie had problems that made her leave AAA? She debuted for AAA in 2010 and he'd been around there since about 2006, so yeah, he was there and likely the cause of that too.
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Post by cjh on Jan 21, 2019 17:53:59 GMT -5
That’s really, really splitting hairs man. Obviously when someone is blaming LU, they mean the people running LU. It’s just in a wrestling context, it’s easier to refer to the promotion. Just because their contract says MGM instead of Lucha Underground doesn’t mean they have no responsibility towards the show they’re running. If they’re aware of somebody getting dicked around who works on their show, they should step in and do something. Gillette literally just put out a commercial about how men shouldn’t be turning a blind eye when some is bullying or harassing. If I’m show runner on Criminal Minds, I’m contracted to CBS not to Criminal Minds. But I’m still responsible if I allow Tomas Gibson to treat people like shit EDIT: When people say WalMart treats employees like shit, they’re referring to the management not the corporate entity. It’s just easier to say WalMart then start listing off names yeah it's sort of like if when Eric Bischoff was running WCW he said "I can't do anything about Hogan/Hall/Nash being a headache they work for TBS, not WCW". I'm not sure about Hall and Nash, but Hogan was signed to WCW. His 1998-2002 WCW contract is online. Bischoff recently brought it up on his podcast, saying Hogan worked for WCW and his salary came from WCW's budget.
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