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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 29, 2019 6:00:32 GMT -5
Is it true that Abyss had a shot to go to WWE and have a feud and WrestleMania match with Undertaker (which he turned down in order to stay loyal to TNA), or was that just a rumor? I know Tommy Dreamer was pitching the Taker feud whether or not it was concrete or not i'm not sure of. Abyss did turn down a contract though... taker feud or not it would have saved some of his body if he went because there was no way the wwe would have had him wrestling death matches every month and falling into thumbtacks and worse on top of that. If he got fired TNA would have taken him back and the way the Dixie team operated ne probaby would have gotten a raise and more respect. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 29, 2019 6:08:10 GMT -5
99 period, Shane Douglas has offers to go to WWf or WCW. He took the money with WCW, but the franchise character would have fitted that era WWF far better and would probably have improved how he was viewed. I don't think the wwf wanted the Franchise in 99, I think he already burned his bridge there. plus Triple H was already there doing a better version of Shane's schtick. they probably woulda made him Dean Douglas again or some bullshit again. |
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 29, 2019 10:31:33 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith paid something like $250k to get out of his contract with the WWF in 1997, to turn up in WCW where part of the deal with he couldn't be associated with Bret Hart, despite leaving for Bret and ultimately lead to the injury that killed his career and eventually his life due top his demons and addictions. He should have stayed where he was.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 29, 2019 11:11:13 GMT -5
Abyss did turn down a contract though... taker feud or not it would have saved some of his body if he went because there was no way the wwe would have had him wrestling death matches every month and falling into thumbtacks and worse on top of that. I'm not sure, while he would perform fewer stupid spots, the wear and tear would be several magnitudes greater because of the sheer number of dates he'd work on the full WWE schedule. Plus would have hit developmental just in time to enjoy either the DSW DeMott hell and the cruelty drills he was famous for, or would have had to have worked with the barely trained hosses that the WWE were churning out at that time. |
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 29, 2019 11:40:42 GMT -5
Going to TNA/Impact: The Thread.
(Besides Angle and Christian)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 11:54:28 GMT -5
Aron Rex going to Impact Wrestling He got exposed badly in his "no gimmick" gimmick and then he did the stupid Liberace shit that buried his body 6ft under with concrete If it was another wrestler, that gimmick might have worked. It’s the fact that it was DAMIEN SANDOW... a guy who already had a character everyone loved. Eh, he had an aspect to his character, the copycat of other wrestlers, that people loved. Damien Sandow, Intellectual Savior of the Unwashed Masses, wasn't exactly the Undertaker. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 29, 2019 12:09:09 GMT -5
Hey Rob, we got a long ride ahead of us, do you have the weed or do I need to bring it.
Come on Sabu, you know I always got it covered.
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Jan 29, 2019 12:18:03 GMT -5
Bret going to WCW. Somehow I wish he had stayed in WWE. He had many good years left in him, and I think that had he stayed, Owen might still be alive. And with no Goldberg to wrestle, there'd be no career-ending concussion, no stroke resulting from that. Come to think of it, if Bulldog stays, he doesn't fall on Warrior's trapdoor and may also still be with us. All of which = a happier Bret for years to come after that. Meaning the Harts might be a family still. Wow... what a lynch pin butterfly effect that turned in! Also lead to "Mr." McMahon (and every heel authority figure since), the title reign of Stone Cold and the rise of The Rock to be Austin's foil. Bret made the Attitude era. |
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Post by malloc on Jan 29, 2019 16:03:58 GMT -5
Anyone who stayed in ECW while not getting paid. Loyalty to a liar won't pay bills. Then that same liar stopped some of those boys and girls from getting jobs in WWE.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 29, 2019 16:25:53 GMT -5
And with no Goldberg to wrestle, there'd be no career-ending concussion, no stroke resulting from that. Come to think of it, if Bulldog stays, he doesn't fall on Warrior's trapdoor and may also still be with us. All of which = a happier Bret for years to come after that. Meaning the Harts might be a family still. Wow... what a lynch pin butterfly effect that turned in! Also lead to "Mr." McMahon (and every heel authority figure since), the title reign of Stone Cold and the rise of The Rock to be Austin's foil. Bret made the Attitude era. Well then imagine the effect now on the WWF? Would there be a Mr. McMahon if there was no MSJ? I mean Austin would get his day in the sun as I think Bret did want to finally give him his win at Mania 14. But then what? I can see DX in a now-upper midcard feud with Undertaker still, which means the casket match still happens, and Shawn hurts his back. Not being in the main event, do they pull the trigger earlier on the HHH-led version of DX? And what's their alignment? (they would have to wait for X-Pac by Mania, I guess...) |
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Jan 29, 2019 21:06:04 GMT -5
Danny Doring and Amish Roadkill had been signed by WWE after the closing of ECW, and were put in a dark match to job. They were told by the agents to just go through the motions, since the match itself was basically only two or three steps above a squash, and was just a test of their skills. They went to get some advise from Paul Heyman, who told them to ignore the agents and to go all out.
Doring and Roadkill were then chewed out for not following instructions, and subsequently released.
Had they not listened to the weasel who had already screwed them out of so much money and just done what they were told by the guys who WERE paying them, they probably would have had a decent run as a midcard tag team at a time when tag teams were actually getting attention (mid 2000's).
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 29, 2019 23:46:45 GMT -5
I was going to say Uncle Ben and Batman's parents, but this thread isn't in off-topic so.... Marc Mero. He left WCW because he didn't want to be in an angle with another man's wife and in WWE his wife cucked him professionally. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 30, 2019 1:41:48 GMT -5
Mike Awesome was being booked as the most dominant ecw champion ever. He then goes to wcw and becomes the fat chick thriller...
I understand why he chose wcw, he needed the money and the ecw checks bounced, unfortunately doing that effectively killed his career.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 30, 2019 2:41:11 GMT -5
Aron Rex going to Impact Wrestling He got exposed badly in his "no gimmick" gimmick and then he did the stupid Liberace shit that buried his body 6ft under with concrete If it was another wrestler, that gimmick might have worked. It’s the fact that it was DAMIEN SANDOW... a guy who already had a character everyone loved. What's even more said is he's somewhat trying to play coy on his intellectual gimmick like nah I don't need one and that's not who I really but the MF'er is holding his mic like a whine glass like he did as Sandow |
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 30, 2019 3:13:30 GMT -5
Bret going to WCW. Somehow I wish he had stayed in WWE. He had many good years left in him, and I think that had he stayed, Owen might still be alive. And with no Goldberg to wrestle, there'd be no career-ending concussion, no stroke resulting from that. Come to think of it, if Bulldog stays, he doesn't fall on Warrior's trapdoor and may also still be with us. All of which = a happier Bret for years to come after that. Meaning the Harts might be a family still. That's a depressing thought. However, interesting that Bret's decision to leave, and the screw job that followed, changed the wrestling landscape in so many ways. Not just professionally and in the business sense, but so many lives were personally affected. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 30, 2019 3:25:56 GMT -5
"Mr. McMahon" was going to happen eventually, given Vince's heel work with Memphis being a sort of testbed for it, but it definitely provided the perfect launching point. It was the rare situation where it benefited the company to make the guy leaving look great, since it put so much heat on Vince, letting him fuel the character with it.
It is not unlike how, along with taking advantage of the politic climate when he was champion, it actually benefited JBL for him to have such a poor reputation with smarks for his perceived bullying. (Some of which I think is overblown, but a lot of it, like the Meanie thing, is just indefensible)
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 30, 2019 6:09:20 GMT -5
for all his bluster about how he could have been Mr. Perfect, Terry Taylor still ended up being the f***ing Red Rooster.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 30, 2019 6:39:20 GMT -5
Mike Awesome was being booked as the most dominant ecw champion ever. He then goes to wcw and becomes the fat chick thriller... I understand why he chose wcw, he needed the money and the ecw checks bounced, unfortunately doing that effectively killed his career. Mike Awesome is like Tazz, he would have been exposed in any company where he isn't booked to crush all comers and can't throw people around with little regard for their health. He wasn't good on the mic, he wasn't a great wrestler, his look seemed better because he was bigger than most people in ECW, while in WCW or the WWE there were plenty of guys as big, with a better look who weren't beat up after working in FMW and ECW for years. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 30, 2019 10:14:08 GMT -5
Mike Awesome was being booked as the most dominant ecw champion ever. He then goes to wcw and becomes the fat chick thriller... I understand why he chose wcw, he needed the money and the ecw checks bounced, unfortunately doing that effectively killed his career. Mike Awesome is like Tazz, he would have been exposed in any company where he isn't booked to crush all comers and can't throw people around with little regard for their health. He wasn't good on the mic, he wasn't a great wrestler, his look seemed better because he was bigger than most people in ECW, while in WCW or the WWE there were plenty of guys as big, with a better look who weren't beat up after working in FMW and ECW for years. You know Taz had to retire because of his neck right? that’s why he couldn’t do the same performances that he became famous for in ecw. I don’t know if Awesome would’ve been exposed or not, but his potential wwe run would’ve been a million times better than Vince Russo giving him career killing gimmicks. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 30, 2019 10:16:20 GMT -5
Mike Awesome was being booked as the most dominant ecw champion ever. He then goes to wcw and becomes the fat chick thriller... I understand why he chose wcw, he needed the money and the ecw checks bounced, unfortunately doing that effectively killed his career. Mike Awesome is like Tazz, he would have been exposed in any company where he isn't booked to crush all comers and can't throw people around with little regard for their health. He wasn't good on the mic, he wasn't a great wrestler, his look seemed better because he was bigger than most people in ECW, while in WCW or the WWE there were plenty of guys as big, with a better look who weren't beat up after working in FMW and ECW for years. Pretty much. You can actually extend that to most guys in ECW. Chide them for being loyal to that shyster Heyman but most of them were pretty worthless without his booking. You can count the guys who did well when left to their own devices outside of ECW on one hand. I'll say RVD, Raven, Lance Storm and Jerry Lynn were literally the only ECW originals who ever did well anywhere else, and there's a good reason for that. |
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