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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 28, 2019 11:01:18 GMT -5
The thread on bad gimmicks got me thinking about talents that chose the worst option when they had a potentially better one on the table, career wise. I know there's a degree of crystal ball gazing but I enjoy these kinds of threads.
Starting off, Alex Wright was on the WWF's wish list in the 90s but was talked out of making the jump. Instead he treaded water in the WCW midcard and had to deal with things like that match with Jim Duggan, which never would have happened under Vince.
On the flipside, there's Miguel Perez Jr. Wanted by WCW, he chose the WWE and ended up as Savio Vega's flunkie in a dead end faction.
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Post by realist on Jan 28, 2019 11:07:34 GMT -5
According to Buff Bagwell, his WCW contract was up at one point and he was being heavily recruited by Vince McMahon. He was giving him the VIP treatment and offering him big money. Bagwell opted to re-sign with WCW. A few months later, Vince McMahon buys WCW, which includes Buff's contract and he went from Vince telling him, "Yes, Buff. You got it, Buff. We really want you to be a part of the team, Buff..." to "....what was your name again?"
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 28, 2019 11:17:23 GMT -5
Bret going to WCW. Somehow I wish he had stayed in WWE. He had many good years left in him, and I think that had he stayed, Owen might still be alive.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jan 28, 2019 11:20:23 GMT -5
Damien Sandow, sometime in 2016: “Hmmm, maybe I should go to TNA.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 12:18:57 GMT -5
99 period, Shane Douglas has offers to go to WWf or WCW. He took the money with WCW, but the franchise character would have fitted that era WWF far better and would probably have improved how he was viewed.
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Post by mrpeacock on Jan 28, 2019 13:21:01 GMT -5
Jake Roberts opting to give his merchandise rights to WWF in exchange for his release so he could jump to WCW and get a huge contract. By the time he gets to WCW the contract has shrunk significantly and poor Jake is stuck doing Spin the Wheel Make the Deal skits before bailing.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 28, 2019 13:27:22 GMT -5
99 period, Shane Douglas has offers to go to WWf or WCW. He took the money with WCW, but the franchise character would have fitted that era WWF far better and would probably have improved how he was viewed. I don't think the wwf wanted the Franchise in 99, I think he already burned his bridge there.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 28, 2019 13:27:58 GMT -5
Red Rooster.
Nigel McGuinness going to TNA.
Braden Walker
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jan 28, 2019 14:44:09 GMT -5
Is it true that Abyss had a shot to go to WWE and have a feud and WrestleMania match with Undertaker (which he turned down in order to stay loyal to TNA), or was that just a rumor?
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 28, 2019 14:57:42 GMT -5
Bret going to WCW. Somehow I wish he had stayed in WWE. He had many good years left in him, and I think that had he stayed, Owen might still be alive. And with no Goldberg to wrestle, there'd be no career-ending concussion, no stroke resulting from that. Come to think of it, if Bulldog stays, he doesn't fall on Warrior's trapdoor and may also still be with us. All of which = a happier Bret for years to come after that. Meaning the Harts might be a family still.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 15:02:29 GMT -5
99 period, Shane Douglas has offers to go to WWf or WCW. He took the money with WCW, but the franchise character would have fitted that era WWF far better and would probably have improved how he was viewed. I don't think the wwf wanted the Franchise in 99, I think he already burned his bridge there. Shane and a couple of others have said there was interest and pretty regular contact at that stage. His issues lay with the kliq, Shawn, Hall and Nash were gone and Hunter didn't have much influence at that stage. He had offers from both sides when he went to WCW. Basically he took the money, admitting he sacrificed his career prospects for the cash.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 28, 2019 15:25:01 GMT -5
I don't think the wwf wanted the Franchise in 99, I think he already burned his bridge there. Shane and a couple of others have said there was interest and pretty regular contact at that stage. His issues lay with the kliq, Shawn, Hall and Nash were gone and Hunter didn't have much influence at that stage. He had offers from both sides when he went to WCW. Basically he took the money, admitting he sacrificed his career prospects for the cash. Here's the thing, Eddie and Saturn said in shoots that when they were negotiating to come in with the wwf, Vince made it clear that he didn't want Shane. I don't think McMahon wanted him back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 15:31:20 GMT -5
Shane and a couple of others have said there was interest and pretty regular contact at that stage. His issues lay with the kliq, Shawn, Hall and Nash were gone and Hunter didn't have much influence at that stage. He had offers from both sides when he went to WCW. Basically he took the money, admitting he sacrificed his career prospects for the cash. Here's the thing, Eddie and Saturn said in shoots that when they were negotiating to come in with the wwf, Vince made it clear that he didn't want Shane. I don't think McMahon wanted him back. Oh yeah, that was after he'd gone to WCW. This prior negotiation was when he was with ECW, before he went to WCW. At that stage I think Russo wanted him as part of the ECW influx. Possibly turning down Vince for WCW was the final straw there.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 28, 2019 16:42:42 GMT -5
Here's the thing, Eddie and Saturn said in shoots that when they were negotiating to come in with the wwf, Vince made it clear that he didn't want Shane. I don't think McMahon wanted him back. Oh yeah, that was after he'd gone to WCW. This prior negotiation was when he was with ECW, before he went to WCW. At that stage I think Russo wanted him as part of the ECW influx. Possibly turning down Vince for WCW was the final straw there. Russo was approaching a lot of guys from ecw to defect during that time before he went to wcw, but I just don't think that McMahon was ok with Douglas coming back after the Dean fiasco and how Douglas handled himself backstage.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 28, 2019 17:56:55 GMT -5
I don't think the wwf wanted the Franchise in 99, I think he already burned his bridge there. Shane and a couple of others have said there was interest and pretty regular contact at that stage. His issues lay with the kliq, Shawn, Hall and Nash were gone and Hunter didn't have much influence at that stage. He had offers from both sides when he went to WCW. Basically he took the money, admitting he sacrificed his career prospects for the cash. Shane only had issues with Shawn and Scott he was cool with Nash and Waltman. Didnt say much about Hunter. Either way he did get approached before going to WCW but the schedule, and money were better with Turner. Plus Shane was sold on the idea of them using his heat with Flair to get him over huge... but Flair nixed that
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 28, 2019 18:58:19 GMT -5
Aron Rex going to Impact Wrestling
He got exposed badly in his "no gimmick" gimmick and then he did the stupid Liberace shit that buried his body 6ft under with concrete
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 28, 2019 19:50:07 GMT -5
More of a 2x4 not dodged but The Shockmaster.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 20:47:08 GMT -5
Stardust.
Edit: granted, it gave him some incentive to make big moves for himself.
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Post by fortknox on Jan 29, 2019 2:49:37 GMT -5
Dino Bravo?
I'll go now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 5:40:31 GMT -5
Aron Rex going to Impact Wrestling He got exposed badly in his "no gimmick" gimmick and then he did the stupid Liberace shit that buried his body 6ft under with concrete If it was another wrestler, that gimmick might have worked. It’s the fact that it was DAMIEN SANDOW... a guy who already had a character everyone loved.
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