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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 11:19:21 GMT -5
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Yall better keep the same energy you had last month.
Last month we had that Ambrose/Rollins match that was crapped on due to the spot it was in (placed between AJ/Bryan and the women's ladder match) which was the "cooldown spot." WWE books matches in certain ways meaning if they know there's 2 hot matches, they'll have a cooldown in between rather than having everyone go all out from the jump. Fans in the audience are conditioned that way as well. With that said some guys can't do certain things if other matches have them. The Ambrose/Harper extreme rules match for example, that had them fight all through the arena. They used some weapons but even when the crowd chanted for tables (and booed them when they didn't use tables) they didn't use tables. Reigns/Show on the other hand that happened later? They used every single table they could find. There's a reason why they used that and it's because Reigns was at his worst then so he needed all the help he could get.
This match is the perfect example of a match being booked as a cooldown match. Just slow, crowd not getting into it, even the ending (as much as I love the new pairing). Either way, sad for those dudes. These guys were just doing their job at the end of the day but it wasn't the feud's fault.
Bryan even cut a promo on how the fans acted lmao.
What did you think about the match?
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Post by realist on Jan 28, 2019 11:38:19 GMT -5
Damn good promo for a heel to cut for a match that the fans weren't really into. "You guys didn't cheer him and he lost the will to fight..." is miles ahead of Seth Rollins going "I had a boring match last night and I take full responsibility..." after that match with Dean Ambrose.
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Post by Abdullah on Jan 28, 2019 11:39:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I think WWE regulates matches absolutely.
AJ’s matches with Bryan on SDL were excellent. On PPV, the WWE title has been filler since dual-branded shows were reintroduced.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 11:39:21 GMT -5
Damn good promo for a heel to cut for a match that the fans weren't really into. "You guys didn't cheer him and he lost the will to fight..." is miles ahead of Seth Rollins going "I had a boring match last night and I take full responsibility..." after that match with Dean Ambrose. Yeah Rollins shouldn't have been the one cutting that promo. It should have been Ambrose saying that the crowd didn't care about Rollins which is why they weren't interested which would put more heat behind Rollins.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 11:40:05 GMT -5
Bryan has ascended into God mode promos. That was a perfect example of rolling with what the crowd gives you to serve the story you're telling.
But yeah, the match was pretty forgettable. I honestly can't recall much from it outside the finish.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 28, 2019 11:43:09 GMT -5
That Ambrose/Rollins match was disasterous, the AJ/Bryan match was just uneventful and bland.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 28, 2019 11:58:23 GMT -5
It was not good but they also had a MOTY candidate at TLC and two damn good Smackdown matches, so at least it wasn't the first match of the new feud like Ambrose/Rollins that completely stunk.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 28, 2019 12:04:44 GMT -5
What was remarkable to me about it was the utter lack of storytelling going on during the match; you build to it by having Vince urging AJ to get violent again, this is played up as a major feud with a lot of animosity boiling over and...nothing.
I'm sure they didn't want it to be like the Lesnar/Balor sprint style match, but man, just book something different, then, this didn't make anybody look good.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 28, 2019 12:06:18 GMT -5
I enjoy the fact that the men's title matches are piss break status. Karma.
Despite a similarly bad reception, this match was better. I can say that at least.
But we do need to talk about the overexposure of AJ Styles and Seth Rollins. They have the same problem. And they both don't know how to resolve it. Neither do the bookers.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 28, 2019 12:07:11 GMT -5
What was remarkable to me about it was the utter lack of storytelling going on during the match; you build to it by having Vince urging AJ to get violent again, this is played up as a major feud with a lot of animosity boiling over and...nothing. I'm sure they didn't want it to be like the Lesnar/Balor sprint style match, but man, just book something different, then, this didn't make anybody look good. That's what I was thinking. I'm like..."what was all that stuff on TV then, hahaha?" That was a big part of it, I think. They wrestled like any ol' AJ/Daniel Bryan match you'll see. From a technical standpoint, it's nearly impossible for it to be bad but from an emotional standpoint? Something was missing.
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Post by beefy on Jan 28, 2019 12:07:35 GMT -5
Is this post saying “if you hated the Ambrose/Rollins march for being boring, then you gotta hate the AJ/Bryan match for also being boring”?
Because I do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 12:10:07 GMT -5
Is this post saying “if you hated the Ambrose/Rollins march for being boring, then you gotta hate the AJ/Bryan match for also being boring”? Because I do. Not in those exact words but I'm saying yeah they were booked similarly in position and the reaction to both matches should be the same given that (well unless you're biased). Both matches had the same issues with them, the only difference is who you liked going into the match and what you thought about the feud prior to the matches.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 28, 2019 12:13:20 GMT -5
Well, maybe the men should work harder if they don't want fans to react like that. Wrestling is a sport for women and men are just a sideshow attraction for those that want to see some perky abs and tight butts. I honestly think WWE should abolish their men's division, it's just useless. Push Seth Rollins all you want, he ain't gonna have nothing on Becky Lynch, ya smell me?
(wink wink)
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Post by beefy on Jan 28, 2019 12:19:02 GMT -5
Is this post saying “if you hated the Ambrose/Rollins march for being boring, then you gotta hate the AJ/Bryan match for also being boring”? Because I do. Not in those exact words but I'm saying yeah they were booked similarly in position and the reaction to both matches should be the same given that (well unless you're biased). Both matches had the same issues with them, the only difference is who you liked going into the match and what you thought about the feud prior to the matches. Total agreement. Both were placed horribly in the card, both were paced horribly with the crowd, both had some slightly interesting segments, but contained an absurd lack of energy and intensity, especially considering the build/feud And personal opinion: both Daniel Bryan and AJ need to go away for a while
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 28, 2019 12:21:04 GMT -5
Well, maybe the men should work harder if they don't want fans to react like that. Wrestling is a sport for women and men are just a sideshow attraction for those that want to see some perky abs and tight butts. I honestly think WWE should abolish their men's division, it's just useless. Push Seth Rollins all you want, he ain't gonna have nothing on Becky Lynch, ya smell me? (wink wink) Lmao!!! I was waiting for a post like this. If I was pettier, I would have done it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 28, 2019 12:23:04 GMT -5
The most surreal thing to me was that this was one of if not the hottest feud in the company, more so than either man’s other feuds this past year, and they decide to do...that to it. Like...I get someone has to have that spot but why sacrifice that match? Put the tag title match there and people might be into it a bit more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 12:23:37 GMT -5
Not in those exact words but I'm saying yeah they were booked similarly in position and the reaction to both matches should be the same given that (well unless you're biased). Both matches had the same issues with them, the only difference is who you liked going into the match and what you thought about the feud prior to the matches. Total agreement. Both were placed horribly in the card, both were paced horribly with the crowd, both had some slightly interesting segments, but contained an absurd lack of energy and intensity, especially considering the build/feud And personal opinion: both Daniel Bryan and AJ need to go away for a while I agree with the first part. As for the second, I definitely think AJ needs to take some time off and come back as a heel or actually, be placed in a tag team after he returns. Bryan is great now but what he needs are some new feuds for sure, definitely. I'm done with this AJ stuff.
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Post by abjordans on Jan 28, 2019 12:30:30 GMT -5
I think the real news here is how Bryan was just out of his mind cutting ridiculously good promos all weekend long. It was similar to those nights Steph Curry just can throw it up from anywhere on the court and it is going in. It was just like “crazy promo here, crazy promo at the merch store, crazy promo here, crazy promo backstage” he was Steph Curry with the shot, boi.
As for that match, it was not as good as their badass TLC match, but I liked it.
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Post by abjordans on Jan 28, 2019 12:31:22 GMT -5
Not in those exact words but I'm saying yeah they were booked similarly in position and the reaction to both matches should be the same given that (well unless you're biased). Both matches had the same issues with them, the only difference is who you liked going into the match and what you thought about the feud prior to the matches. Total agreement. Both were placed horribly in the card, both were paced horribly with the crowd, both had some slightly interesting segments, but contained an absurd lack of energy and intensity, especially considering the build/feud And personal opinion: both Daniel Bryan and AJ need to go away for a while Bryan went away for 3 years and hasn’t even been back a year yet, that is absurd.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 28, 2019 12:34:08 GMT -5
I still can't figure out how we've gotten to the point where TV has PPV quality matches and PPV's have filler TV style matches
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