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Post by SirLucas on Feb 13, 2019 12:36:55 GMT -5
Seems like the kiss of death to turn heel and start a feud with Kalisto. How did the careers turn out for the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio.
I guess Elias is going to need backup to combat the 3 luchas...but who?
Hawkins? Ryder? A new team from NXT?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 12:58:35 GMT -5
I wasn't sure about Elias' face turn at first BECAUSE he was so great as a heel. I think he's going to be just fine.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 13, 2019 13:04:40 GMT -5
Seems like the kiss of death to turn heel and start a feud with Kalisto. How did the careers turn out for the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio. I guess Elias is going to need backup to combat the 3 luchas...but who? Hawkins? Ryder? A new team from NXT? If Elias doesn't turn Hawkins and Ryder or Dallas and Axel into douchy musicians, to form a band, then what's the point of anything? |
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Post by Woo on Feb 13, 2019 13:36:49 GMT -5
Seems stupid. He was massively over. But then they did the same to Braun, Ryback and others.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Feb 13, 2019 13:55:30 GMT -5
Seems like the kiss of death to turn heel and start a feud with Kalisto. How did the careers turn out for the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio. I guess Elias is going to need backup to combat the 3 luchas...but who? Hawkins? Ryder? A new team from NXT? Heath Slater is right there. |
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Post by SirLucas on Feb 13, 2019 13:59:57 GMT -5
Elias, Slater and Jinder. 3MB part duex... say it isn't so
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 14:03:01 GMT -5
Dood was over as a babyface ...a babyface the crowd actually liked what a concept.
TURN HIM BACK HEEL NOW!!
Whatever you say Shelton
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 13, 2019 15:02:43 GMT -5
I thought he was falling into tjd generic pandering to the crowd baby face and it wasn't working for me.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 13, 2019 17:42:30 GMT -5
There's been at least two threads about this previously, including one by me, and I am perfectly happy to duplicate it every single time, because I've marked for Elias for years and marked HARD for his babyface turn (not least because the turn actually took place on television as a story point rather than 'hey you're cheering for Peter Dunne so now he tags with babyfaces, go ahead!'). I hate hate hate that he has turned back heel, on a personal level I hate it more than the Rusev turn because Rusev's was way overdue and he just wasn't as over any more.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 17:46:34 GMT -5
Seems like the kiss of death to turn heel and start a feud with Kalisto. How did the careers turn out for the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio. I guess Elias is going to need backup to combat the 3 luchas...but who? Hawkins? Ryder? A new team from NXT? If Elias doesn't turn Hawkins and Ryder or Dallas and Axel into douchy musicians, to form a band, then what's the point of anything? I really think he just needs Heath Slater as his roadie. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Feb 13, 2019 17:55:55 GMT -5
..... two more guitars .....
i actually STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED when i watched elias blapping that pest after the fourth time!
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 13, 2019 17:56:41 GMT -5
I can’t wait until he does the same exact segment forever until Vince gets bored and shoves him onto Main Event because that’s what happens every time.
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 13, 2019 18:08:14 GMT -5
Flip flopping heel/face turns makes the audience really connect with a performer. That’s the main reason they’ve done it lately with multiple people, to great success.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 13, 2019 21:32:44 GMT -5
I was kind of annoyed by it, but this song about Grand Rapids was f***ing amazing and made up for it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 21:36:45 GMT -5
Eh, dudes better as a heel anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 8:46:50 GMT -5
Why are people upset about this? He is MILES better as a heel.
Getting pops shouldn’t mean you have to turn face. They’re cheering him because he’s “cool”, he insults the crowd and has charisma. If you watched his face run, you could see all that slowly slipping away. He was doing singalongs, “dedicating” songs to the town he was in, and doing one of those terrible bad standup comedian routines every face seems to do.
I remember one particular incident where he did the whole “I need everyone to SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES, HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.... and wait till the performance is over.” Thats wack.
Fans weren’t cheering for THAT guy, they were cheering for the heel Elias. The Elias that thinks he’s too good to perform for you. That’s the way he should always be.
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