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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 0:40:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty against Meltzer on this. I really don't see anything wrong with, so long as they were giving Roman a spotlight to update everyone on his progress anyway, telling people it was going to happen (granted, yes, it's to their benefit to do it, but it's also to the benefit of people who like to be able to tune in and see how it's going instead of catching it secondhand on Youtube later), and I feel like by announcing he was going to be on Raw directly addressing it they were pretty much openly admitting it was going to be a positive update because I highly doubt anyone involved would want to have a cloud hanging over the show of having him come out and tell everyone he's got six months or something.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 26, 2019 0:47:59 GMT -5
Just as long as they don't rush him back to wrestling. I'm really happy for him that his leukemia is in remission, but I don't want him to come back unless he's 100% ready to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 0:49:00 GMT -5
There isn't and may never be again a wrestler like Roman Reigns who went from one of the most hated (mainly character wise) to one of the most respected, loved, and cheered for guys in all of wrestling let alone WWE like he has, let alone in such a short time. But as someone who last year went through a Cancer scare, went through the surgeries, and is still going through follow up tests, the next round coming up literally Wednesday as I type this... Roman's character could literally shoot a dog at this point, Im not booing him again. Might I get annoyed if it gets bad? Maybe, but I ain't worrying about that petty shit right now, cause Roman's back, he's happy, he's healthy, and he's doing what he loves, getting the reactions and support he deserves. Keep swingin' and knockin' it out Big Dog, you got me in your corner now. We both kicked Cancer's ass! FAN has you!!!
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Post by bcdx97 on Feb 26, 2019 1:16:02 GMT -5
It’s the same old shit, yet people are lapping it up.
This whole thing has been surreal.
I still won’t cheer for him because his act is lame and stale and they are gonna milk this for all the good will it’s worth.
Still hoping for a heel turn. Now THAT would be something.
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Post by papagiorgio on Feb 26, 2019 1:38:52 GMT -5
Appears like they are setting up a 6 man tag for Fastlane. The Shield vs. Lashley, McIntyre, and Corbin. Roman probably takes on someone in this match not named Seth at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 1:45:34 GMT -5
Appears like they are setting up a 6 man tag for Fastlane. The Shield vs. Lashley, McIntyre, and Corbin. Roman probably takes on someone in this match not named Seth at Wrestlemania. It's really too bad that Raw's roster is so beat up because it's great to have Roman back, but there just aren't a lot of exciting options for him right now. If Batista/Triple H didn't wanna work each other so badly, Roman vs. Batista would be a lot of fun. If Ambrose's heel turn worked out better, Roman coming back to set him straight would be awesome. You put him in the ring with guys like Corbin enough times he might stop feeling special.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2019 2:16:51 GMT -5
There isn't and may never be again a wrestler like Roman Reigns who went from one of the most hated (mainly character wise) to one of the most respected, loved, and cheered for guys in all of wrestling let alone WWE like he has, let alone in such a short time. But as someone who last year went through a Cancer scare, went through the surgeries, and is still going through follow up tests, the next round coming up literally Wednesday as I type this... Roman's character could literally shoot a dog at this point, Im not booing him again. Might I get annoyed if it gets bad? Maybe, but I ain't worrying about that petty shit right now, cause Roman's back, he's happy, he's healthy, and he's doing what he loves, getting the reactions and support he deserves. Keep swingin' and knockin' it out Big Dog, you got me in your corner now. We both kicked Cancer's ass! FAN has you!!! Through the thick of any arguments and any disagreements, I love this place. It makes me feel at home, and despite how I may come off sometimes, it helps me find peace. Love ya'll.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2019 2:24:19 GMT -5
There isn't and may never be again a wrestler like Roman Reigns who went from one of the most hated (mainly character wise) to one of the most respected, loved, and cheered for guys in all of wrestling let alone WWE like he has, let alone in such a short time. But as someone who last year went through a Cancer scare, went through the surgeries, and is still going through follow up tests, the next round coming up literally Wednesday as I type this... Roman's character could literally shoot a dog at this point, Im not booing him again. Might I get annoyed if it gets bad? Maybe, but I ain't worrying about that petty shit right now, cause Roman's back, he's happy, he's healthy, and he's doing what he loves, getting the reactions and support he deserves. Keep swingin' and knockin' it out Big Dog, you got me in your corner now. We both kicked Cancer's ass! My thoughts are with you for Wednesday. You got this. My previous tests showed I was all good, but I'm probably gonna be monitored closely for the next year or so every few months It could have been a lot worse, I got a very low risk cancer, but it was still cancer and it's still no joke. Hopefully Wednesday will continue to bring good news. To be honest the worst part of it all is the prep for scans where I have to drink three cups of that nasty ass dye fluid over the course of like an hour. But if it says "You're all good" then of course it's worth it... but lord if it ain't awful anyway, tastes like an Enzo Amore freestyle
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Feb 26, 2019 2:56:02 GMT -5
Wonder if the name Mario Lemieux means anything to Dave Meltzer? Jon Lester? Eric Davis? Saku Koivu? Meltzer's issue was that WWE never even provided any information as to what the direction the update would be - that, in effect, they were saying, "Tune in on Monday Night to find out if Roman's fight against cancer is going well, or if he only has six months left to live!" Meltzer even said (at least on the radio shows, I'm not sure about on Twitter) that he would be fine if WWE said something along the lines of "Roman's fight against cancer is going well, and he will be on Raw to give a more complete update" - then, they could still try to drive fans to watch Raw, but not use the fans' genuine worry that it might be bad as a way to try to pop a rating. Nah, Meltzer's issue was that he is straight up the PR wing of AEW these days. It's become rapidly clear in the last 12-18 months with the way he throws star ratings Omega's way like no tomorrow (I love his work too but honestly Dave's fanboying comes off as either OTT, or as a guy helping a friend's rep out), but also the way the Observer covers things in general. AEW can do no wrong, WWE can do no right. Dude's going to bat for his buddies and it's pretty transparent. And I mean I like the Elite guys, I like the prospect of AEW as a competitor, but yeah. Dave's far from impartial these days. As for Roman, damn I'm glad he's in remission, he should take as much time as he wants before coming back, if he feels ready sooner come back soon, if not, hold out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 3:28:02 GMT -5
Some stuff I heard from Fightful's review tonight
- Reigns got better pretty soon after he made the intial announcement. He's still a little bit sluggish.
- Ambrose didn't go out to the ring after Reigns's announcement under his own call. He was very emotional backstage. After the first Reigns segment they made plans for Reigns and Rollins to help Ambrose after he's beaten down by the heels.
- Vince was the first person to know that Reigns was ready to come back, Reigns told Vince early last week. The only others who knew were Triple H, Stephanie, Kevin Dunn and Michele Wilson (marketing). Reigns returning now was completely his decision.
- The WWE is going to make another push to re-sign Ambrose. Since Reigns is back they're having talks and going to see if Reigns can help Ambrose stay.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2019 3:33:10 GMT -5
Some stuff I heard from Fightful's review tonight - Reigns got better pretty soon after he made the intial announcement. He's still pretty sluggish - Ambrose didn't go out to the ring after Reigns's announcement under his own call. He was very emotional backstage. After the first Reigns segment they made plans for Reigns and Rollins to help Ambrose after he's beaten down by the heels. - Vince was the first person to know that Reigns was ready to come back, Reigns told Vince early last week. The only others who knew were Triple H, Stephanie, Kevin Dunn and Michele Wilson (VP of marketing.) Reigns returning now was completely his decision. - The WWE is going to make another push to re-sign Ambrose. Since Reigns is back they're having talks and going to see if Reigns can help Ambrose stay. He beat the Leukemia flare up THAT QUICK? Jesus christ that's insane, but it still took a lot out of him that's pretty much to be expected. Ambrose's situation is an interesting one though, I feel like Roman being back would help him mentally, because you have to imagine losing a brother on the road on top of being booked like total shit definitely didn't help his mental state in wanting to be around. At this point if Dean stays I wouldn't mind if it's what he thinks is best, but I think when it comes to Dean he's just tried too many things that have gone nowhere in WWE that I think he'll still try out other places with an open door policy from WWE themselves. Also good that it was Roman's decision to come back. Just take it easy man, you had very sluggish and fatigue ridden moments when you were healthy, don't rush coming back. Shoot for your first match to be back at Mania, since that'd when it would matter most.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 26, 2019 3:43:58 GMT -5
It’s the same old shit, yet people are lapping it up. This whole thing has been surreal. I still won’t cheer for him because his act is lame and stale and they are gonna milk this for all the good will it’s worth. Still hoping for a heel turn. Now THAT would be something. That's some real goblin shit you're saying there dude. Literally nobody has asked you to cheer him for this and if you aren't going to then that's fine, but shitting on other people for sympathizing with the dude and deciding to give him another chance is top notch Jim-Henson-puppet-from-Labyrinth goblin nonsense.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Feb 26, 2019 4:00:21 GMT -5
Some stuff I heard from Fightful's review tonight - Reigns got better pretty soon after he made the intial announcement. He's still a little bit sluggish. - Ambrose didn't go out to the ring after Reigns's announcement under his own call. He was very emotional backstage. After the first Reigns segment they made plans for Reigns and Rollins to help Ambrose after he's beaten down by the heels. - Vince was the first person to know that Reigns was ready to come back, Reigns told Vince early last week. The only others who knew were Triple H, Stephanie, Kevin Dunn and Michele Wilson (marketing). Reigns returning now was completely his decision. - The WWE is going to make another push to re-sign Ambrose. Since Reigns is back they're having talks and going to see if Reigns can help Ambrose stay. Dean might be a little more amenable to staying now that his "road wife" is back. This also gives him a little more leverage, Roman will go to bat for Dean. And Dean staying backstage to be saved later makes for a better story. I joked that when Roman returned, Dean would want his tears hiding under sweat while he's shouting at Roman incoherently about "I missed you you sonovabitch!"
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 26, 2019 4:00:25 GMT -5
Very glad to hear it's in remission, and I hope that the continuing recovery goes even better.
Not thinking about the in-ring aspect of it currently, this is still on ongoing issue. Could see him doing a run-in spot, perhaps, but anything proper feels months off yet. Got to do what's best for his health.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Feb 26, 2019 4:46:45 GMT -5
I'm so happy for him y'all. It's amazing what letting a guy be himself and getting to sound like an actual human being will do for a guy.
And troll central, aka youtube comments, did not disappoint.
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Post by msc on Feb 26, 2019 6:57:22 GMT -5
Some stuff I heard from Fightful's review tonight - Reigns got better pretty soon after he made the intial announcement. He's still a little bit sluggish. That ties in with it being one of the less virulent leukemias, thankfully. Medicine has come on brilliantly at fighting different forms of cancer in the last 20 years, especially leukemia. There's now several strands which can attack you like a coward and slowly zap your health (and yeah if they spread to other organs or remain undiagnosed or produce complications then its serious because cancer)when you don't know what it is, but once diagnosed, as long as there aren't complications, you can often kick its ass with the correct treatment. Goes without saying I'm delighted Reigns has treated it like it were James Ellsworth in a 2019 squash match ie beyond contempt.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 26, 2019 7:00:09 GMT -5
Some stuff I heard from Fightful's review tonight - Reigns got better pretty soon after he made the intial announcement. He's still a little bit sluggish. That ties in with it being one of the less virulent leukemias, thankfully. Medicine has come on brilliantly at fighting different forms of cancer in the last 20 years, especially leukemia. There's now several strands which can attack you like a coward and slowly zap your health (and yeah if they spread to other organs or remain undiagnosed or produce complications then its serious because cancer)when you don't know what it is, but once diagnosed, as long as there aren't complications, you can often kick its ass with the correct treatment. Goes without saying I'm delighted Reigns has treated it like it were James Ellsworth in a 2019 squash match ie beyond contempt. I know that when my dad's cancer came back it was basically a fraction of the cancer,before any real damage.. It went in no time too,seems like it was the case with Roman,the cancer came back but came 1% of what is was before. And it says alot one of the first people Vince let it know was Marketing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 7:01:30 GMT -5
Great for him. If he’s going to be shoved down everybody’s faces like before, then I can do without. Time and a Place. This ain't it. Let those who enjoy this be happy.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 26, 2019 7:03:18 GMT -5
Great for him. If he’s going to be shoved down everybody’s faces like before, then I can do without. Time and a Place. This ain't it. Let those who enjoy this be happy. I would say at least bad choices of words .
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 26, 2019 7:06:42 GMT -5
Like a lot of people, cancer has effected someone I know. I've lost family members to cancer and have seen a good buddy go through a really hard battle for the last 2 years.
I feel no shame whatsoever in saying that the segment last night had me bawling happy tears.
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