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Post by héad.casé on Feb 24, 2019 15:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by Chiral on Feb 24, 2019 15:38:46 GMT -5
Good on Orton for saying that.
Wait...elite...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 15:52:26 GMT -5
I never thought Ryder was great or anything, but he deserves better than what he's been doing (or not doing) the last couple years. And coming from a guy like Orton, who's elite when he's on top of his game, that means a lot.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 24, 2019 15:55:09 GMT -5
He is not wrong
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 16:06:52 GMT -5
Ryder is not an “elite” worker... neither is Orton for that matter. Both are very basic at what they do in the ring. It pales in comparison to the high energy stuff we see from the likes of Gargano, Ricochet etc. But he does deserve more than he’s given.
Hawkins and Ryder could be like Edge and Christian if they really pushed them. They’ve got that relatable goofiness about them, especially if you watch their action figure YouTube show. Give them some comedy backstage segments and let them go at it.
Ryder was shafted twice by WWE in his career. The obvious one was back in 2011 but then when he won the IC Title at WM and he got that reaction... man, the crowd didn’t care that he was a jobber again before that cause he was OVER. You gotta start pushing the wrestlers the crowd actually likes. Maybe then the crowd wouldn’t be so dead every week.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Feb 24, 2019 16:09:45 GMT -5
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 24, 2019 16:15:31 GMT -5
Might be workin' the smarks a little bit there, Randall.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Feb 24, 2019 16:17:57 GMT -5
"I've always thought you were very elite and I'm sure you'll make an impact wrestling somewhere because you're very honourable in the ring. Also you're new and Japanese I guess?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 16:57:42 GMT -5
"I've always thought you were very elite and I'm sure you'll make an impact wrestling somewhere because you're very honourable in the ring. Also you're new and Japanese I guess?" "Ps. You were always a pro"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 17:01:28 GMT -5
"I've always thought you were very elite and I'm sure you'll make an impact wrestling somewhere because you're very honourable in the ring. Also you're new and Japanese I guess?" "He'd sure Shine and Shimmer in the right surroundings." Wait.
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Post by abjordans on Feb 24, 2019 17:18:37 GMT -5
Ryder is always crying “wahhh they never ask me to do that”. Just tell Orton it looks cool and keep it moving.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 24, 2019 17:21:55 GMT -5
"I've always thought you were very elite and I'm sure you'll make an impact wrestling somewhere because you're very honourable in the ring. Also you're new and Japanese I guess?" Doesn't matter if it's a combat zone or underground, you're a major league talent. Sometimes, you need to progress and when you reach zero one, you might need gureilla tactics to evolve.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Feb 24, 2019 17:25:40 GMT -5
In his most recent opportunity to leave a good impression the audience he botched spelling his own name.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 24, 2019 17:30:06 GMT -5
say what you want about Ryder, but I love these stories of his peers supporting him.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 24, 2019 17:36:14 GMT -5
People's personal contempt for Ryder baffles me almost as much as their personal contempt for Ziggler.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 17:53:19 GMT -5
he had to have signed multiple contract extensions by now. If he's unhappy he should've left
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 24, 2019 18:02:49 GMT -5
I feel like Ryder is one good showing from getting the current Kofi treatment. Let dude show what he can do against a star, and let the crowd love him again. We've seen that it's not difficult.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 24, 2019 18:05:36 GMT -5
Elite as in the charisma he had in 2011 and handling of social media before it was truly popular yes, but my no means is he an elite wrestler.
I wish he would’ve rejected the storyline with Cena and Kane. That killed all the momentum he had.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 24, 2019 18:06:27 GMT -5
People's personal contempt for Ryder baffles me almost as much as their personal contempt for Ziggler. Well Zack was buried, while Dolph was self inflicted. It doesn’t help that he complains non stop.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 24, 2019 18:12:37 GMT -5
People's personal contempt for Ryder baffles me almost as much as their personal contempt for Ziggler. Ziggler's kind of a douche, so I get the contempt for him. Never got that from Ryder, though. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 25.09999999999991px; height: 3.0400000000000063px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_96117673" scrolling="no" width="25.09999999999991" height="3.0400000000000063"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 25.1px; height: 3.04px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1193px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_26938813" scrolling="no" width="25.09999999999991" height="3.0400000000000063"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 25.1px; height: 3.04px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 92px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_62166206" scrolling="no" width="25.09999999999991" height="3.0400000000000063"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 25.1px; height: 3.04px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1193px; top: 92px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_66296873" scrolling="no" width="25.09999999999991" height="3.0400000000000063"></iframe>
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