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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 1, 2019 18:04:51 GMT -5
Their first couple of shows they had a man dressed as a penis and a little guy jerking off in a trashcan. They were too weird to live and for some reason they still exist today. TNA around 2004-2008 but more specifically 2005 had some great wrestling, characters and moments. Just watching old episodes of Impact on Twitch reminded me why I was hooked. And as for the earlier episodes, can't defend that shit but you had Katie Vick and HLA on RAW around the same time. Trash has been a part of wrstling. TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. The little guy pulled a gun on tv. The Harris twins wore an SS shirt to the ring. Game set and match TNA.
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Post by bigbadbull on Mar 1, 2019 21:26:08 GMT -5
TNA around 2004-2008 but more specifically 2005 had some great wrestling, characters and moments. Just watching old episodes of Impact on Twitch reminded me why I was hooked. And as for the earlier episodes, can't defend that shit but you had Katie Vick and HLA on RAW around the same time. Trash has been a part of wrstling. TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. The little guy pulled a gun on tv. The Harris twins wore an SS shirt to the ring. Game set and match TNA. You purposefully picking the bad but ignoring the good. TNA, now Impact, has done shit but calling it too weird is silly especially since it gave is great wrestling and wrestlers. P.S. WWE planned for Heidenreich to be a Nazi. Had Muhammad Hassan become a religious terrorist, had choppy pee-pee,Vince calling Cena the M-Word and have Booker and his wife watch and let's not start with WCW.
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Post by WWEedy on Mar 1, 2019 21:54:53 GMT -5
TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. The little guy pulled a gun on tv. The Harris twins wore an SS shirt to the ring. Game set and match TNA. You purposefully picking the bad but ignoring the good. TNA, now Impact, has done shit but calling it too weird is silly especially since it gave is great wrestling and wrestlers. P.S. WWE planned for Heidenreich to be a Nazi. Had Muhammad Hassan become a religious terrorist, had choppy pee-pee,Vince calling Cena the M-Word and have Booker and his wife watch and let's not start with WCW. As someone who now only lurks now because of this attitude here in the subforum, don't bother.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 1, 2019 23:22:08 GMT -5
TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. The little guy pulled a gun on tv. The Harris twins wore an SS shirt to the ring. Game set and match TNA. You purposefully picking the bad but ignoring the good. TNA, now Impact, has done shit but calling it too weird is silly especially since it gave is great wrestling and wrestlers. P.S. WWE planned for Heidenreich to be a Nazi. Had Muhammad Hassan become a religious terrorist, had choppy pee-pee,Vince calling Cena the M-Word and have Booker and his wife watch and let's not start with WCW. Heidenreich was never planned to be a Nazi, that was a stupid writer who made Vince walked out of the meeting the rest I can’t argue with, except that it happened over a period of years, unlike tna in which it happened all in the first months of 2002. TNA did great things for the industry and presented great talent, it’s just that in my opinion, I can’t believe they’re still alive after 02.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 1, 2019 23:34:16 GMT -5
Btw I was making a joke by quoting Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. TNA is the dr Gonzo of wrestling and that’s a compliment.
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Post by markymark on Mar 2, 2019 12:30:53 GMT -5
More LOLDIXIE stuff, how could you draw less than current Impact and ROH despite having million times more star power?
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 2, 2019 14:37:44 GMT -5
Well, AEW is certainly smarter about how they spend their money so far. Then again, that isn't exactly high praise for them since TNA could've lit several hundreds of thousands of dollars on fire and it would've been a smarter way to use their money than how they did.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 12, 2019 18:55:48 GMT -5
TNA around 2004-2008 but more specifically 2005 had some great wrestling, characters and moments. Just watching old episodes of Impact on Twitch reminded me why I was hooked. And as for the earlier episodes, can't defend that shit but you had Katie Vick and HLA on RAW around the same time. Trash has been a part of wrstling. TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. Which almost every wrestling promotion has done, and pretty much all of visual media has done, for years. By the way I'm queer, so I hate this trope too, but acting like TNA are a special example of it is really unfair. By all means pick on the PORG fapping, but homophobia was just reality in media for... well, pretty much still is.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 12, 2019 19:12:45 GMT -5
TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. Which almost every wrestling promotion has done, and pretty much all of visual media has done, for years. By the way I'm queer, so I hate this trope too, but acting like TNA are a special example of it is really unfair. By all means pick on the PORG fapping, but homophobia was just reality in media for... well, pretty much still is. They didn’t used that once, then the whole Miss tna fiasco and Orlando Jordan then Winter. If I’m not mistaken, wwe evolved just a little bit after Billy and Chuck. TNA early on made them look like the bastion of tolerance.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 12, 2019 19:21:24 GMT -5
Which almost every wrestling promotion has done, and pretty much all of visual media has done, for years. By the way I'm queer, so I hate this trope too, but acting like TNA are a special example of it is really unfair. By all means pick on the PORG fapping, but homophobia was just reality in media for... well, pretty much still is. They didn’t used that once, then the whole Miss tna fiasco and Orlando Jordan then Winter. If I’m not mistaken, wwe evolved just a little bit after Billy and Chuck. TNA early on made them look like the bastion of tolerance. WWE hasn't been as bad lately, no, but Jordan pitched that angle himself (which actually helps your point given WWE turned it down) and only a few years ago Rollins was being accused of carrying a vibrator around. Only a couple years earlier Cena was straight up calling Miz and Riley gay in 2011, and they were exploiting lesbian shit right up until just before the women's revolution.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 12, 2019 19:37:26 GMT -5
They didn’t used that once, then the whole Miss tna fiasco and Orlando Jordan then Winter. If I’m not mistaken, wwe evolved just a little bit after Billy and Chuck. TNA early on made them look like the bastion of tolerance. WWE hasn't been as bad lately, no, but Jordan pitched that angle himself (which actually helps your point given WWE turned it down) and only a few years ago Rollins was being accused of carrying a vibrator around. Only a couple years earlier Cena was straight up calling Miz and Riley gay in 2011, and they were exploiting lesbian shit right up until just before the women's revolution. Nothing will ever be as bad as Orlando Jordan in my opinion. Well maybe Lawler using the f word but still.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 13, 2019 3:32:15 GMT -5
WWE hasn't been as bad lately, no, but Jordan pitched that angle himself (which actually helps your point given WWE turned it down) and only a few years ago Rollins was being accused of carrying a vibrator around. Only a couple years earlier Cena was straight up calling Miz and Riley gay in 2011, and they were exploiting lesbian shit right up until just before the women's revolution. Nothing will ever be as bad as Orlando Jordan in my opinion. Well maybe Lawler using the f word but still. Funnily enough on that point I agree with you, because Jordan is one of my people and is responsible for one of the very few bisexual characters on TV at all, never mind in wrestling, and it was offensive as f***.
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Post by Big Chungus on Mar 13, 2019 3:51:04 GMT -5
Aew sold out two massive venues stateside tna never could have so theres that. Wrestling is 1000x hotter than it was back on TNA’s heyday.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 13, 2019 5:54:52 GMT -5
TNA also had a heel team that was heel being gay. The little guy pulled a gun on tv. The Harris twins wore an SS shirt to the ring. Game set and match TNA. You purposefully picking the bad but ignoring the good. TNA, now Impact, has done shit but calling it too weird is silly especially since it gave is great wrestling and wrestlers. P.S. WWE planned for Heidenreich to be a Nazi. Had Muhammad Hassan become a religious terrorist, had choppy pee-pee,Vince calling Cena the M-Word and have Booker and his wife watch and let's not start with WCW. Don't forget:
Goldust's early run Billy and Chuck Most of the crap from the Attitude Era (and I love the Attitude Era, but let's keep it real) Hirohito Brian Pillman and his gun Katie Vick Fat (enter diva here) storyline Fan chants
...the list goes on.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 13, 2019 19:37:02 GMT -5
Aew sold out two massive venues stateside tna never could have so theres that. Wrestling is 1000x hotter than it was back on TNA’s heyday. Independent wrestling is hotter, but TNA was a company getting international airplay on major channels and had a flurry of genuine big name stars. The Being the Elite channel's subscriber count is a third of just the domestic weekly TV ratings that Impact held strong for years. The little guy can go a lot further now than they could back in TNA's prime but TNA in their prime were not really the little guy.
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Post by Big Chungus on Mar 14, 2019 3:11:29 GMT -5
Wrestling is 1000x hotter than it was back on TNA’s heyday. Independent wrestling is hotter, but TNA was a company getting international airplay on major channels and had a flurry of genuine big name stars. The Being the Elite channel's subscriber count is a third of just the domestic weekly TV ratings that Impact held strong for years. The little guy can go a lot further now than they could back in TNA's prime but TNA in their prime were not really the little guy. They weren’t all that known to casual viewers though, lots of Indy wrestling stuff is going viral these days, opening it up to casual people who wouldn’t even give WWE a look in, it’s kinda became acceptable to like wrestling again, back in their heyday it still had the post-Attitude era stink on it.
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Post by dav on Mar 14, 2019 8:31:27 GMT -5
Independent wrestling is hotter, but TNA was a company getting international airplay on major channels and had a flurry of genuine big name stars. The Being the Elite channel's subscriber count is a third of just the domestic weekly TV ratings that Impact held strong for years. The little guy can go a lot further now than they could back in TNA's prime but TNA in their prime were not really the little guy. They weren’t all that known to casual viewers though, Which was their own damn fault due to being unable to advertise in a competent manner at all. That and the name itself managed to chase away advertisers like no one's business.
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Post by markymark on Mar 14, 2019 19:59:39 GMT -5
WWE hasn't been as bad lately, no, but Jordan pitched that angle himself (which actually helps your point given WWE turned it down) and only a few years ago Rollins was being accused of carrying a vibrator around. Only a couple years earlier Cena was straight up calling Miz and Riley gay in 2011, and they were exploiting lesbian shit right up until just before the women's revolution. Nothing will ever be as bad as Orlando Jordan in my opinion. Well maybe Lawler using the f word but still.
Did you forget about Early 2017 Aron Rex?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 14, 2019 20:06:00 GMT -5
Nothing will ever be as bad as Orlando Jordan in my opinion. Well maybe Lawler using the f word but still.
Did you forget about Early 2017 Aron Rex?
Jordan was way worse. And as a member of that community he should’ve known better.
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