Reigns is helping in seeing if Ambrose can re-sign

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As always, live events as subject to change but Ambrose has been added to the post-WM live events schedule and the same with the European tour. Reigns has been added as well.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Feb 28, 2019 14:17:12 GMT -5 @kn said:

As always, live events as subject to change but Ambrose has been added to the post-WM live events schedule and the same with the European tour. Reigns has been added as well.

When you find out yo homie is taking certain classes and you switch your schedule around to wind up in the same classes. 

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Feb 28, 2019 14:20:21 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Feb 28, 2019 14:17:12 GMT -5 @kn said:

As always, live events as subject to change but Ambrose has been added to the post-WM live events schedule and the same with the European tour. Reigns has been added as well.

When you find out yo homie is taking certain classes and you switch your schedule around to wind up in the same classes. 

Forreal lol. It's like you go to work and see who's on the schedule for the shift.

Interestingly enough, Ronda's not scheduled for anything post-WM week so yeah she's for sure taking some time off.

[Hit Girl]

Roman will buy him a new dumpster.

Gold plated.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Eh, that's a shame. Lots more interesting stuff to do for him outside the company, but money's money, I guess.

[fw91]

Roman told Dean that he told Vince that Dean was the real Minnesota Miracle Man, and Dean was so moved that he decided to stay.

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

I wonder how much turning heel and using Roman's situation really got to the guy. He seems like he's probably super sensitive in private.

Having your buddy back and a nice raise probably goes a long way.

[ChitownKnight]

Supposedly Dean has been scheduled for live events in May, after his contract expires

[corndog]

Feb 26, 2019 17:55:54 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

I wonder if Vince just can't grasp the idea it's about creative fulfillment. Like for as much as Vince is a perfectionist, I think it's so much more out of a need to control than it is any real creative drive to constantly obsess and perfect, which is why everything happens so haphazardly and suddenly rather than with strong planning and forethought; the show gets slapped together in ways that don't speak to creative pride at all, just whims and madness. Ambrose wants something bigger than Vince is willing to give because it's both out of his control and not something that comes into the picture for him on a creative level any longer.

I don't think Vince is completely delusional, although he is incredibly out of touch. I believe he understands that Ambrose just wants creative control of his character, but Vince is just not willing to give it to him, because then he feels he would lose control. That is what this is all about, Vince destroying the territories and winning the Monday Night War, it's all about control. He's only given up control to regain it.

[Chainsaw]

If they talk Ambrose into staying, I'm going to be more super depressed that Ambrose didn't walk away that I will be super impressed that they managed to broker a deal. He needs to stick to his guns and find a greener pasture. Change is only temporary. He'll still be an also-ran in that place.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Feb 28, 2019 20:19:35 GMT -5 Chainsaw said:

If they talk Ambrose into staying, I'm going to be more super depressed that Ambrose didn't walk away that I will be super impressed that they managed to broker a deal. He needs to stick to his guns and find a greener pasture. Change is only temporary. He'll still be an also-ran in that place.

Right. I have no doubt Roman only meant well, but at the heart of it, if he stayed, then Dean got sold a band-aid. He's never gonna have the freedom from stupid shit in WWE like he would outside of it.

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Feb 28, 2019 20:19:35 GMT -5 Chainsaw said:

If they talk Ambrose into staying, I'm going to be more super depressed that Ambrose didn't walk away that I will be super impressed that they managed to broker a deal. He needs to stick to his guns and find a greener pasture. Change is only temporary. He'll still be an also-ran in that place.

Agreed, I haven't read through the thread yet but while I want to like the idea of Ambrose staying, I'd rather he go somewhere where he gets to do (mostly) whatever he wants creatively instead of being stuck doing the same shit in WWE. He's had a good run, but he could've become an even bigger deal than he already is if they did more with him.

[ChitownKnight]

Feb 28, 2019 20:23:43 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Feb 28, 2019 20:19:35 GMT -5 Chainsaw said:

If they talk Ambrose into staying, I'm going to be more super depressed that Ambrose didn't walk away that I will be super impressed that they managed to broker a deal. He needs to stick to his guns and find a greener pasture. Change is only temporary. He'll still be an also-ran in that place.

Right. I have no doubt Roman only meant well, but at the heart of it, if he stayed, then Dean got sold a band-aid. He's never gonna have the freedom from stupid shit in WWE like he would outside of it.

I dunno, I mean the first time Punk resigned he got a good deal out of it. The pipe bomb plus a year + long title reign. The only thing he didn’t really get to do is main event wrestlemania. If Ambrose did resign though I doubt it would be a 5 year contract. Probably a 2-3 year one. I mean AEW hasn’t even started yet so what would be the point in taking that big of a risk

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

Feb 28, 2019 20:43:41 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

Feb 28, 2019 20:23:43 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Right. I have no doubt Roman only meant well, but at the heart of it, if he stayed, then Dean got sold a band-aid. He's never gonna have the freedom from stupid shit in WWE like he would outside of it.

I dunno, I mean the first time Punk resigned he got a good deal out of it. The pipe bomb plus a year + long title reign. The only thing he didn’t really get to do is main event wrestlemania.

I signed a 3 year deal and all I got was a stupid deadly staph infection, and this shirt.

[TOK Is the Target Demo]

Feb 26, 2019 17:49:13 GMT -5 @kn said:

Feb 26, 2019 17:46:55 GMT -5 @jessem52 said:

It’s so strange. It’s clear that they want him around and do see him a a huge asset for the company due to his title reigns and programs, but they just don’t get what Ambrose actually wants? It sounds more like he wants creative freedom or something other than just money or to hang out with his bros.

It's funny because giving Ambrose creative freedom not only makes him happier it takes work off of creative given they have less to worry about. Something so small that can so simply be taken care of, they don't do it because Vince wants to be all hand's on.

Vince is like Kanye West. Ambrose is like Nas. He didn't want Nasir to come out like it did. He's got his own vision.

Great, now I've got Cole screaming "LUNATIC FRINGE" repeating in my head like the Slick Rick sample in "Cops Shot The Kid"

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He still might be leaving. They've already taken Ambrose off the post-WM shows so it's still up in the air. The smartest thing from his position is waiting until WM time to where he can re-sign but still it's not only him who's supposedly leaving around then. The Usos are having their contracts expire in April too. Rikishi said they'll be free agents so we could be seeing Ambrose and his Samoan Brothers head somewhere else.

Either way these 3 are smart.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Feb 28, 2019 22:03:20 GMT -5 @kn said:

He still might be leaving. They've already taken Ambrose off the post-WM shows so it's still up in the air. The smartest thing from his position is waiting until WM time to where he can re-sign but still it's not only him who's supposedly leaving around then. The Usos are having their contracts expire in April too. Rikishi said they'll be free agents so we could be seeing Ambrose and his Samoan Brothers head somewhere else.

Either way these 3 are smart.

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Oh, yeah, either way this shakes out, Ambrose is easily the smartest man in wrestling right now. Either he winds up as undisputably THE hottest free agent in recent memory with the ability to call his own shots anywhere he wants, or he's getting a massive pay bump and, hopefully, more creative latitude out of the intense control freak he works for. Either way, he wins.

[schma]

I hope he leaves for a while. Even if he's gone for a couple years, they can put Seth and Roman on different shows and do something new. They need to give those guys a break from each other (on screen) whether as the SHIELD or not. With Dean gone, it could be the best thing for all three of them creatively.

[corndog]

Feb 28, 2019 22:15:35 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Feb 28, 2019 22:03:20 GMT -5 @kn said:

He still might be leaving. They've already taken Ambrose off the post-WM shows so it's still up in the air. The smartest thing from his position is waiting until WM time to where he can re-sign but still it's not only him who's supposedly leaving around then. The Usos are having their contracts expire in April too. Rikishi said they'll be free agents so we could be seeing Ambrose and his Samoan Brothers head somewhere else.

Either way these 3 are smart.

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Oh, yeah, either way this shakes out, Ambrose is easily the smartest man in wrestling right now. Either he winds up as undisputably THE hottest free agent in recent memory with the ability to call his own shots anywhere he wants, or he's getting a massive pay bump and, hopefully, more creative latitude out of the intense control freak he works for. Either way, he wins.

This should definitely work in his favor, he's either getting a big bag of cash or he gets to work the way he wants, maybe both. Although the other option is maybe he's done with wrestling as a whole, much like Punk, but he's being less of a douche about it.

[xCompackx]

It's cool to see Roman trying to help out, but holy f*** does WWE need to give the Shield a break. I want to see Dean, Roman, and Seth be their own thing as a singles act instead of relying on nostalgia runs that aren't even nostalgic.