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Post by darbus alan on Mar 1, 2019 16:46:42 GMT -5
Asuka shut Becky up definitively for talking shit in Becky's last program. The fact they've gone back to not giving a shit about Asuka like they did after her streak ended says more about how they view Asuka than anything, sadly. The way they've booked Asuka since she won the SD Women's Championship is borderline criminal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 16:49:50 GMT -5
The fact they've gone back to not giving a shit about Asuka like they did after her streak ended says more about how they view Asuka than anything, sadly. The way they've booked Asuka since she won the SD Women's Championship is borderline criminal. Yep, she had a decent enough match with Naomi after winning it and after that hasn't done anything except lose to Mandy. I get that Becky/Charlotte/Ronda is their biggest program right now, but beating Becky clean in an awesome match should've cemented her as the top face on SDL with Becky moving to Raw. Vince just doesn't like her much, pretty obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 16:53:39 GMT -5
f***ed up that this thread is more entertaining than the feud's been on TV lately, lol. We're all in agreement that we want this to get back on track at least, right?
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Post by Dub H on Mar 1, 2019 16:53:58 GMT -5
Doesnt matter is Becky won the rumble(especially since she did it from 30).
Doesnt change the fact she tapped CLEAN in the first (or second ,depends where you choose)one on one title match of her big push.And even then her leg was f***ed up(kayfabe) for weeks.
The only time Roman lost completely clean I think was against Bobby(I know he lost to rollin,but I think there was a small shenanigan like a ref bump?).And the only time he was rmeotely "injured" was in the rumble where he just walked to the back.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2019 16:54:15 GMT -5
The fact they've gone back to not giving a shit about Asuka like they did after her streak ended says more about how they view Asuka than anything, sadly. The way they've booked Asuka since she won the SD Women's Championship is borderline criminal. Yeah, I get not wanting her to steamroll the competition again but she should be doing something. Her against Naomi could been a compelling feud and I can dig her against the Mandy/Sonya combo if they actually did something about that
This is where they miss someone like Ember because they could have started back up a compelling feud from Mania that lasted for a few months
Hell, i'm not against Mickie going against Asuka again because she can still get it done and i'd give her a legit chance of actually beating Asuka
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2019 16:55:31 GMT -5
f***ed up that this thread is more entertaining than the feud's been on TV lately, lol. We're all in agreement that we want this to get back on track at least, right? Yes, kill the social media BS and get it back right
Let Charlotte whoop their ass and continue to stir the pot until they realize they have a common enemy in her and try to knock her ass out so they can find out who the better woman is between them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 16:58:08 GMT -5
f***ed up that this thread is more entertaining than the feud's been on TV lately, lol. We're all in agreement that we want this to get back on track at least, right? Yes, kill the social media BS and get it back right Let Charlotte whoop their ass and continue to stir the pot until they realize they have a common enemy in her and try to knock her ass out so they can find out who the better woman is between them
I thought it would've been interesting if they made Becky and Ronda team up against Charlotte and a partner (Alexa, maybe?) at Fastlane or something. Can't stand each other, but for the sake of taking out Charlotte they have to put aside their differences for now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2019 16:58:31 GMT -5
Doesnt matter is Becky won the rumble(especially since she did it from 30). Doesnt change the fact she tapped CLEAN in the first (or second ,depends where you choose)one on one title match of her big push.And even then her leg was f***ed up(kayfabe) for weeks. The only time Roman lost completely clean I think was against Bobby(I know he lost to rollin,but I think there was a small shenanigan like a ref bump?).And the only time he was rmeotely "injured" was in the rumble where he just walked to the back. Lost clean to Lashley
Lost clean to Strowman (a few times)
Lost clean to Rollins (a few times)
Lost semi clean to Dean and Finn (Suspension was coming)
Lost clean to Lesnar (a few times)
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 1, 2019 16:58:45 GMT -5
f***ed up that this thread is more entertaining than the feud's been on TV lately, lol. We're all in agreement that we want this to get back on track at least, right? Yup. Everything else is an aside. Ronda done goofed this hard. Nothing but a WCW 2000 angle now.
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Post by Some Guy on Mar 1, 2019 17:00:23 GMT -5
If she starts putting on boring matches and promos like Roman did, maybe. There are people here who actually wanted Roman to be treated the way Becky is right now, at least on TV, as an ass kicker. I'm talking about in being protected rather than match quality and promos. Those are debatables but we can check win loss records. Since Becky's heel turn she's only had 1 clean loss which is against Asuka at the Rumble. Any other loss she's had has been due to shenanigans. That's some Roman booking. I'll even say on a week to week basis Roman's looked worse than Becky given Roman usually got beaten up by the heels prior to the ppv match while Becky's usually the one getting the upperhand most times. She tapped out clean on a PPV. That immediately erases the idea of some Roman booking. And she's had maybe 10-11 matches since turning heel, with 5 PPV matches where she's won 3 of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 17:01:11 GMT -5
I'm talking about in being protected rather than match quality and promos. Those are debatables but we can check win loss records. Since Becky's heel turn she's only had 1 clean loss which is against Asuka at the Rumble. Any other loss she's had has been due to shenanigans. That's some Roman booking. I'll even say on a week to week basis Roman's looked worse than Becky given Roman usually got beaten up by the heels prior to the ppv match while Becky's usually the one getting the upperhand most times. She tapped out clean on a PPV. That immediately erases the idea of some Roman booking. And she's had maybe 10-11 matches since turning heel, with 5 PPV matches where she's won 3 of them. Are you saying that Roman hasn't lost clean at a ppv? We gotta get something straight, when people talk about how protected Roman is do yall know that he's actually lost matches clean?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2019 17:02:09 GMT -5
Yes, kill the social media BS and get it back right Let Charlotte whoop their ass and continue to stir the pot until they realize they have a common enemy in her and try to knock her ass out so they can find out who the better woman is between them
I thought it would've been interesting if they made Becky and Ronda team up against Charlotte and a partner (Alexa, maybe?) at Fastlane or something. Can't stand each other, but for the sake of taking out Charlotte they have to put aside their differences for now. They honestly should have had Becky in an intermediate feud before her and Ronda (and Charlotte) started their build. 2 months is way too long to be prepping for this match tho I get the other side is they want to hype the shit out of this as much as possible
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Post by Perd on Mar 1, 2019 17:02:35 GMT -5
Becky is definitely protected. And, in my opinion, she should be. If she’s being groomed to be the top dog, you protect her. That’s been true of every top dog in wrestling history. But, as protected as she is, she still tapped out in her last match. WWE has continued us to know that a tap out victory/loss means more. John Cena might’ve got pinned. Roman Reigns might’ve got pinned. But there’s no way in hell that either would ever tap out. And that’s why I think the Roman comparisons are a little premature. Not to mention that, ya know, fans actually wanted this Becky push.
And, while I agree this twitter stuff is lame, I think the harm it’s doimg to the feud is starting to be overstated. None of this stuff is probably going to make TV. How much of the audience when know it’s happening? The problems, with the feud, actually started before this: 1. The build is too long. 2. Tired story points like knee injuries and corporate interference. 3. Charlotte still feels like she’s not part of it.
It’s time to cut the BS. Announce the triple threat and let the three of them go at it for the next few weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 17:02:53 GMT -5
And if they do start pulling back on Becky once Mania has passed then people need to be ready to not act like it's a personal affront to them; Charlotte just being added to the match created such a "Becky is in danger, something something nepotism she's going to win and ruin everything" panic reflex that helps nobody right now. Stuff like her losing to Asuka can't be seen as a sign of the apocalypse. Of course, WWE don't understand moderation in pushes either so watch them do nothing to pull back until Becky is exactly the kind of superbooked monster that she would always come up short against. Is this unreasonable though? Hoping for the best but expecting worse than the dirt worst is a pretty damn rational approach to watching the WWE.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 1, 2019 17:03:14 GMT -5
Doesnt matter is Becky won the rumble(especially since she did it from 30). Doesnt change the fact she tapped CLEAN in the first (or second ,depends where you choose)one on one title match of her big push.And even then her leg was f***ed up(kayfabe) for weeks. The only time Roman lost completely clean I think was against Bobby(I know he lost to rollin,but I think there was a small shenanigan like a ref bump?).And the only time he was rmeotely "injured" was in the rumble where he just walked to the back. Lost clean to Lashley Lost clean to Strowman (a few times)
Lost clean to Rollins (a few times)
Lost semi clean to Dean and Finn (Suspension was coming) Lost clean to Lesnar (a few times)
Right we can't pretend Roman didn't do the job somewhat often even. That's actually what led to a ton of the issues with him because he would lose but booking would act like it didn't matter, negating the loss in a sense. I see where Captain and kn are coming from in that regard, but from where I stand that's on not capitalizing on Asuka rather than keeping Becky strong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 17:03:41 GMT -5
She tapped out clean on a PPV. That immediately erases the idea of some Roman booking. And she's had maybe 10-11 matches since turning heel, with 5 PPV matches where she's won 3 of them. Are you saying that Roman hasn't lost clean at a ppv? We gotta get something straight, when people talk about how protected Roman is do yall know that he's actually lost matches clean? I think what they're getting at is that while Roman has lost clean before, tapping out is seen as a worse way to lose clean than getting pinned. It's seen as embarrassing, which it shouldn't but that's just the way it gets treated.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2019 17:03:44 GMT -5
She tapped out clean on a PPV. That immediately erases the idea of some Roman booking. And she's had maybe 10-11 matches since turning heel, with 5 PPV matches where she's won 3 of them. Are you saying that Roman hasn't lost clean at a ppv? We gotta get something straight, when people talk about how protected Roman is do yall know that he's actually lost matches clean? A lot
Let's not forget he went like 6 PPVs without a win after "retiring" Undertaker
He was Braun Stowman bitch for months and when he got a title shot at Summerslam in that match between him, Lesnar, Joe and Strowman it was Roman who took the pin from Lesnar
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 17:04:20 GMT -5
I thought it would've been interesting if they made Becky and Ronda team up against Charlotte and a partner (Alexa, maybe?) at Fastlane or something. Can't stand each other, but for the sake of taking out Charlotte they have to put aside their differences for now. They honestly should have had Becky in an intermediate feud before her and Ronda (and Charlotte) started their build. 2 months is way too long to be prepping for this match tho I get the other side is they want to hype the shit out of this as much as possible I'm no Nia fan, but EC or Fastlane would've been a perfect time to have a proper blow off match to their little feud.
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Post by Some Guy on Mar 1, 2019 17:04:49 GMT -5
She tapped out clean on a PPV. That immediately erases the idea of some Roman booking. And she's had maybe 10-11 matches since turning heel, with 5 PPV matches where she's won 3 of them. Are you saying that Roman hasn't lost clean at a ppv? We gotta get something straight, when people talk about how protected Roman is do yall know that he's actually lost matches clean? I didn't say lose, I said tapped out. Roman has never tapped out. John Cena hasn't tapped out since 2004.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 1, 2019 17:05:44 GMT -5
Are you saying that Roman hasn't lost clean at a ppv? We gotta get something straight, when people talk about how protected Roman is do yall know that he's actually lost matches clean? I think what they're getting at is that while Roman has lost clean before, tapping out is seen as a worse way to lose clean than getting pinned. It's seen as embarrassing, which it shouldn't but that's just the way it gets treated. Oh no I gotta go against that. We need to get past seeing tapping as a bigger negative than getting pinned. Loss is a loss if it's clean.
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