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Post by Prince Petty on Mar 3, 2019 4:03:21 GMT -5
Becky could be helping yes, but at the same time I have to wonder if Becky expects these responses or if she thinks Ronda is gonna turn it around and just... doesn't. I feel like Ronda should be able to stand on her own, or simply stop giving Becky any ammo to fire with. Stick to a lane because her Twitter one is a trash heap. On the topic of the WWE Schedule, I really wonder if some of the homegrowns or former athletes like the former UFCers or the former Football/Sports players get shell shocked by the schedule and the travel. I had a feeling Ronda would but it really shows how WWE is not for everyone. It's a mental game, and that's also why you see so many frustrated when they spend years on it like Rusev and get little to no gain or headway ever. It's one of the toughest jobs you could take, and it's honestly good to sometimes start in the Indys and get your feet wet with travel, it's why Training has the Florida loop too, and maybe why Baszler took so easily to it. Ronda jumped headfirst into wrestling training and got a push out the gate, and it's clearly not been the best strategy for her as her run has gone on. I give Ronda credit for actually going in there and trying to do this shit weekly because no way I expected her to do this as much as she has but mentally she needs a lighter schedule. She may not want a lighter schedule and want to be as normal as one the girls as possible but it is in her best interest to have a lighter schedule She damn sure don't need to be on Brock type of time but as far as her schedule goes, you shouldn't have her out there every week either since the whole point of having her was to make her a special attraction. It's a catch 22, she wants to be out there but she can't really handle being out there as much
She's probably been trying to prove herself, and to use house shows to get better. And it is hard to fault her on in-ring stuff, she really is good, and has improved since she started. Hard to imagine she's only been doing this for a year. But yeah, the schedule clearly isn't for a lot of people, and it must be a huge shock to the system, perhaps even more so for professional athletes who are used to routine and discipline. The WWE travel schedule is something else entirely. It's not just training, it's not just eating right, it's a constant slog of travelling. I can see now why she reportedly wants to leave after Wrestlemania. It is a shame, because she's got so much talent and clearly loves being in a more supportive, collaborative business than UFC was. And I imagine the fans turning on her will only cement her decision further. If she was supposed to be a heel, I think she'd embrace it, but her fragile self image can't countenance being booed when she's supposed to be the hero. As for the feud itself... I don't know what the WWE has planned to fill March, but I hope it does involve telling them all to cool it on social media. Becky's photoshops and jabs are funny, but start to feel genuinely cruel when it becomes clear that the target can't handle them. And even if Ronda is in on the joke, she's struggling to play her part.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 3, 2019 4:15:56 GMT -5
Don't you dare, that thread needs to drop to the archives already. Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd it's come back.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 3, 2019 4:49:43 GMT -5
I find it funny how Charlotte is coming off as the most likeable of the three by far despite being the clear cut heel on TV. Just playing it cool and staying out of it while spending quality time with her new man Andrade don't call me Cien Almas. Meanwhile Ronda just continues to make a fool of herself more and more while Becky is just starting to come off like a big bully. Don't get me wrong I'm still rooting for Becky to win but even I have to admit she's starting to lose her charm a little.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 3, 2019 5:54:41 GMT -5
It's fascinating to see how the reactions vary to Lynch's social media act based on who she's feuding with.
When she was taking aim at Charlotte in their original feud, people ate that ish up with a snow shovel because of all the resentment there was towards Charlotte over Lynch being robbed of the title at SummerSlam, being turned heel as a result and Charlotte's general reputation as the company chosen one. But... Charlotte couldn't get her digs in at that time, because she had to be the storyline babyface and be above it all, so that "battle" ended up as one-sided as the feud itself. Funny thing is, they're actual besties, so Charlotte's the one most equipped to handle it and do it all with a smile and I actually can't wait to see a proper back-and-forth between her and Lynch now that she's got the gloves off as the storyline heel.
Then there's Asuka... No-selling it all like Homer Simpson working his way up the boxing ranks. Whether that was a conscious decision or something with the English/Japanese language barrier where there isn't really a trash-talk culture, Asuka didn't play along and Lynch was basically punching herself out. There's also the fact that Asuka was basically in the same boat Lynch herself was in in terms of someone not getting their dues from the company, so if Lynch had kept it going, I could have seen a bit of a backlash there.
Finally... "Ronnie". Rousey has a bit of that chosen one resentment that Charlotte has, but not so much since the general belief was that she was being built up TO be fed to Charlotte herself. Others hate her for some problematic views away from wrestling, some of which have come through in her responses to Lynch. So generally, people were happy to see Lynch take the big legit sports star down a few pegs. Problem is... Rousey's a headcase. She got broken by her loss to Holly Holm and never got her head right before Amanda Nunes turned it into mush next time out. She comes to wrestling, is generally doing well, is decently liked and enjoys the more co-operative backstage environment... But then she got paired off with Lynch, and she makes some ill-advised responses in promos and on Twitter. She gets murderised by Charlotte at Survivor Series and, weirdly echoing the Lynch heel turn, they cheer Charlotte for that and boo Rousey, and I think she's been rattled by that and got her head out of the game. And to top that off, she's back to being paired up with Lynch, the crowd sides with her over Rousey, Lynch starts going boom shaka laka "OH MY SHE'S ON FIRE" with the Twitter machine and Rousey ends up playing the fake and real name cards to try and stop the onslaught. Rousey is out of her depth and broke the emergency fourth wall glass, and now it's made Lynch look like a bit of a bully for keeping it going regardless.
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 3, 2019 6:25:40 GMT -5
It's fascinating to see how the reactions vary to Lynch's social media act based on who she's feuding with. When she was taking aim at Charlotte in their original feud, people ate that ish up with a snow shovel because of all the resentment there was towards Charlotte over Lynch being robbed of the title at SummerSlam, being turned heel as a result and Charlotte's general reputation as the company chosen one. But... Charlotte couldn't get her digs in at that time, because she had to be the storyline babyface and be above it all, so that "battle" ended up as one-sided as the feud itself. Funny thing is, they're actual besties, so Charlotte's the one most equipped to handle it and do it all with a smile and I actually can't wait to see a proper back-and-forth between her and Lynch now that she's got the gloves off as the storyline heel. Then there's Asuka... No-selling it all like Homer Simpson working his way up the boxing ranks. Whether that was a conscious decision or something with the English/Japanese language barrier where there isn't really a trash-talk culture, Asuka didn't play along and Lynch was basically punching herself out. There's also the fact that Asuka was basically in the same boat Lynch herself was in in terms of someone not getting their dues from the company, so if Lynch had kept it going, I could have seen a bit of a backlash there. Finally... "Ronnie". Rousey has a bit of that chosen one resentment that Charlotte has, but not so much since the general belief was that she was being built up TO be fed to Charlotte herself. Others hate her for some problematic views away from wrestling, some of which have come through in her responses to Lynch. So generally, people were happy to see Lynch take the big legit sports star down a few pegs. Problem is... Rousey's a headcase. She got broken by her loss to Holly Holm and never got her head right before Amanda Nunes turned it into mush next time out. She comes to wrestling, is generally doing well, is decently liked and enjoys the more co-operative backstage environment... But then she got paired off with Lynch, and she makes some ill-advised responses in promos and on Twitter. She gets murderised by Charlotte at Survivor Series and, weirdly echoing the Lynch heel turn, they cheer Charlotte for that and boo Rousey, and I think she's been rattled by that and got her head out of the game. And to top that off, she's back to being paired up with Lynch, the crowd sides with her over Rousey, Lynch starts going boom shaka laka "OH MY SHE'S ON FIRE" with the Twitter machine and Rousey ends up playing the fake and real name cards to try and stop the onslaught. Rousey is out of her depth and broke the emergency fourth wall glass, and now it's made Lynch look like a bit of a bully for keeping it going regardless.
I think your point about how Becky's act doesn't work nearly as well when its directed against other women perceived as 'held back' is something that's going to be a stumbling block with this gimmick in the medium-long term, because if Becky's right on top its going to look like she's punching down. As for whether we'll get much Becky/Charlotte back-and-forth with the current alignments, its hard to say. I think Becky would love to because its a big part of her act and it'll make her look like less of a bully if she has another target (especially one who won't short out like Ronda has of late), but at the same time when doing kayfabe social media Charlotte tends to prefer making herself look like an asshole rather than attacking other women, even when she's a heel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 7:50:18 GMT -5
Last thing Becky said was mentioning Charlotte on someone else's post not talking about Charlotte. Kinda weird given her last comment. She's mentioning Charlotte way more than Charlotte is mentioning her.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 3, 2019 11:49:05 GMT -5
I'm not buying the bully thing. It's wrestling, it's built on trash-talking. Becky being better at it isn't her fault, it's Ronda's for sucking.
Some of you would have claimed Piper was a bully.
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Post by brentreznor on Mar 3, 2019 12:03:33 GMT -5
I just want this to happen
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 12:09:14 GMT -5
all I know is we need SOMETHING to happen tomorrow and/or Tuesday. A beatdown (Ronda on Becky, Charlotte on Becky, Ronda on Charlotte, Charlotte on Ronda, whatever) of some kind would be nice, but I'd settle for Becky getting some damn mic time. We're heading into the home stretch now, time to give this some juice again.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Mar 3, 2019 12:19:55 GMT -5
Ronda keeping up with her history of transphobia, and failing at doing her job completely at the same time. Huh. I would laugh so hard if she lost to a transgendered individual in the octagon or ring.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 3, 2019 12:37:03 GMT -5
Watching Ronda both inside and outside fighting since her debut, she can’t handle pressure. Her childhood judo coach admitted that if things are not doing well, she quits.
I can’t stress this enough, watch her season of coaching the ultimate fighter, she broke down and it was awful to watch.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Mar 3, 2019 12:39:45 GMT -5
Because Vince dumped a garbage truck full of trash on her doorstep in return for her "legitimacy". Plus, it got her three friends jobs. I wonder if they'll fade away with her exit. Honestly wouldn't mind. Except Baszler, I like her a lot. I hope she wouldn't feel pressured to follow Rousey out. I'd rather they call Shayna up and then turn her on Ronda. Shayna seems to get it more.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Mar 3, 2019 12:42:17 GMT -5
For someone who hates millenials, Ronda sure is good at creating memes! She *IS* a millennial. She's only 5 years younger than me, still within the millennial realm.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Mar 3, 2019 13:09:11 GMT -5
For someone who hates millenials, Ronda sure is good at creating memes! She *IS* a millennial. She's only 5 years younger than me, still within the millennial realm. Well you can still hate groups you're a part of. She just hates toast SO much!
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 3, 2019 14:05:29 GMT -5
Ronda keeping up with her history of transphobia, and failing at doing her job completely at the same time. Huh. I would laugh so hard if she lost to a transgendered individual in the octagon or ring.
There's only been one notable transgender MMA fighter... and she lost to 5-4 journeyman Ashlee Evans-Smith in 2013
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Post by tenshi on Mar 3, 2019 16:31:57 GMT -5
I would laugh so hard if she lost to a transgendered individual in the octagon or ring. There's only been one notable transgender MMA fighter... and she lost to 5-4 journeyman Ashlee Evans-Smith in 2013
And then Fallon Fox had heat with some people because she started training for MMA as a man before the gender change and didn't want to disclose being a transgender fighter before fighting women. Essentially people complained that Fox had a physical advantage on her opposition by retaining the muscle tissue and bone structure of a man but was allowed to fight women without those advantages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 17:40:07 GMT -5
Fightful's Sean Ross Sapp said
In case some people thought Ronda was a good actor and could handle this, doesn't seem to be. We know Ronda's attitude. Also another place said they've heard that Ronda's really pissed with Becky with this but I haven't gotten any confirmation towards that from elsewhere. Given how Ronda's been pissed before due to boos and such, given her attitude and then this Fightful response? Yeah.
One thing's for sure, this whole shit is a mess.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 3, 2019 18:26:43 GMT -5
Fightful's Sean Ross Sapp said In case some people thought Ronda was a good actor and could handle this, doesn't seem to be. We know Ronda's attitude. Also another place said they've heard that Ronda's really pissed with Becky with this but I haven't gotten any confirmation towards that from elsewhere. Given how Ronda's been pissed before due to boos and such, given her attitude and then this Fightful response? Yeah. One thing's for sure, this whole shit is a mess. This has Heyman as the “source” written all over it. This is his MO lately, looking at last year’s Lesnar rumors around the same time. Make the smart fans think there’s a legit beef and turmoil backstage by leaking these rumors and using shoot comments, whether on social media or even on-air.
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Post by Shai on Mar 3, 2019 18:32:45 GMT -5
I fully admit that my real life distaste for Ronda Rousey had made her getting constantly owned by Becky highly entertaining. But honestly its like beating a dead horse now. It's just sad and not fun anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 18:43:18 GMT -5
Fightful's Sean Ross Sapp said In case some people thought Ronda was a good actor and could handle this, doesn't seem to be. We know Ronda's attitude. Also another place said they've heard that Ronda's really pissed with Becky with this but I haven't gotten any confirmation towards that from elsewhere. Given how Ronda's been pissed before due to boos and such, given her attitude and then this Fightful response? Yeah. One thing's for sure, this whole shit is a mess. This has Heyman as the “source” written all over it. This is his MO lately, looking at last year’s Lesnar rumors around the same time. Make the smart fans think there’s a legit beef and turmoil backstage by leaking these rumors and using shoot comments, whether on social media or even on-air. Man, you need to stop thinking everything's a work lol. Yeah, a lot of stuff is used to work the fans but if you honestly think Ronda's that good of an actor while knowing her past then you're just overestimating her. Some things aren't scripted.
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