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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Mar 4, 2019 10:53:31 GMT -5
He's hated around here, but Mr. Kennedy (Kennedy). He's really found a second life as a trainer, thankfully.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 4, 2019 13:51:01 GMT -5
I truly, truly believe that in some alternate universe where Low-Ki isn't an asshole, he's main-evented Wrestlemania in an absolute classic against Daniel Bryan. Low Ki skill is insane but his shitty attitude has hurt him
Ironically him and Aries decided to get out of WWE before they burned that bridge
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 20:00:59 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Jake Roberts.
The catch 22 is that his demons fueled his motivation/dark charisma.
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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 6, 2019 20:14:25 GMT -5
Might give a shout to Del Rio. WWE pushed him to the moon and would have kept doing so again and again to keep the Latin market. Unfortunately for him (and fortunately for us) the guy is such a dick he managed to ruin it for himself multiple times over. I can get behind this, especially after his first release. Everyone was backing the guy, he was doing some interesting stuff on the indies finally, despite still having his attitude, then Vince got a boner for him again, and that was it. Dude bought into himself way too much and flushed all of that goodwill down the toilet, like a perro.
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Post by Guacamole Anderson on Mar 6, 2019 21:35:02 GMT -5
Kerry Von Erich. His look alone could've had him playing at a much higher level. But demons.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Mar 6, 2019 23:13:51 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Jake Roberts. The catch 22 is that his demons fueled his motivation/dark charisma. I know he became a bit of a joke after Heroes of Wrestling, but he is still iconic for his work. At the time the best he could have been was Intercontinental Champ. Kerry Von Erich. His look alone could've had him playing at a much higher level. But demons. This is interesting because of the whole foot thing. I don't know what effect that had in his mind. As for one not mentioned, and it is a stretch since his body gave out, would be Gary Albright. To me he seems like he could have been a proto-Benoit or Lesner in the states.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 23:17:34 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Jake Roberts. The catch 22 is that his demons fueled his motivation/dark charisma. I know he became a bit of a joke after Heroes of Wrestling, but he is still iconic for his work. At the time the best he could have been was Intercontinental Champ. Kerry Von Erich. His look alone could've had him playing at a much higher level. But demons. This is interesting because of the whole foot thing. I don't know what effect that had in his mind. As for one not mentioned, and it is a stretch since his body gave out, would be Gary Albright. To me he seems like he could have been a proto-Benoit or Lesner in the states. Albright is one of my great 'what ifs' but he did get a brief ECW run and fell flat on his arse figuratively. Not to say he couldn't recover, especially in Japan, but there were missing pieces.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 7, 2019 0:12:57 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Jake Roberts. The catch 22 is that his demons fueled his motivation/dark charisma. I disagree, I think he reached his potential, what he did was snort his money away though.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 7, 2019 7:54:31 GMT -5
Buff Bagwell. Good look, charisma, friends with the right guys backstage, found an act that worked for him when he joined the NWO... Then all improvement stopped and he became difficult to work with, flat out unprofessional at times and all upward progression stopped. He would have been world champion in the New Blood era, but his ship had sailed and he and Judy were the ones who set it adrift.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 7, 2019 8:48:47 GMT -5
Might sound nuts given his accomplishments, but.... William Regal might have reached the pinnacle had he managed to get himself/keep himself clean at certain points in his career
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 10:01:10 GMT -5
Kerry Von Erich. His look alone could've had him playing at a much higher level. But demons. Maybe. He had a great look, presence and decent in the ring, but I always thought he stalled in front of the mic. That didn't bode well for him in the era of big personalities that he came up in. Among people like Hogan, Flair, Sting, Rude, Hennig... I don't see Kerry being top drawer talent. I think he was just right at the I-C/US title level.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Mar 7, 2019 11:09:34 GMT -5
Ultimate warrior. Torch handed to him from Hogan in one of the biggest moments in that era. Disappoints as champion to force them to reboot Hogan as champ one year later. Gets fired for his greed and unreliable unprofessional side twice and alienates fans for years only to win them back right before death. I really think he should have had a better legacy and could have if he had his head on straight. Lesnar. I wish his entire second run in wwe wasn't sporadic appearances and heyman promos and calling it in most of the time. If he actually wrestled on raws and every ppv, maintained a better physique, he would have a better legacy and reputation among the fans imo. I can see your point on Warrior, but I think he actually reached his potential. He was a one dimensional character whose whole shtick was running over people on his way to the top. Once he knocked off the top guy and took his position, I think he reached his potential. After that, where did he have to go? He wasn't cut from the same mold as a Sting or Hogan in that he wasn't capable of being the imperiled babyface. He was more like Goldberg... exciting on the rise until he hits a dead end at the top. The babyface in peril trope was exactly what they were going for when Undertaker stuffed him in the casket. If he wasn't so bloody minded, he would have had so many more career defining moments.
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Post by Aceorton on Mar 7, 2019 12:59:17 GMT -5
Buff Bagwell. Good look, charisma, friends with the right guys backstage, found an act that worked for him when he joined the NWO... Then all improvement stopped and he became difficult to work with, flat out unprofessional at times and all upward progression stopped. He would have been world champion in the New Blood era, but his ship had sailed and he and Judy were the ones who set it adrift. This is my vote. Bagwell had made himself a real player in 1997-98 and could have carried that right over to WWE and had another lucrative 10 years. But nope. RVD with the pot bust is definitely up there. And Windham is a great choice, too. Surprised no one has mentioned Jeff Hardy or Ryback.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 7, 2019 14:09:53 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels but only because of bad luck. Mechanically wise, he’s better than the Hardys or Edge or other members of his generation but he will never get his due.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 7, 2019 14:25:14 GMT -5
Buff Bagwell. Good look, charisma, friends with the right guys backstage, found an act that worked for him when he joined the NWO... Then all improvement stopped and he became difficult to work with, flat out unprofessional at times and all upward progression stopped. He would have been world champion in the New Blood era, but his ship had sailed and he and Judy were the ones who set it adrift. This is my vote. Bagwell had made himself a real player in 1997-98 and could have carried that right over to WWE and had another lucrative 10 years. But nope. RVD with the pot bust is definitely up there. And Windham is a great choice, too. Surprised no one has mentioned Jeff Hardy or Ryback. Jeff is more of a overachiever than anything
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 14:28:59 GMT -5
Gary Albright was always going to be a Dr. Death type that kicked ass in Japan but didn’t do much in the States. IIRC he was married into the Anoa’i family so he probably would have gotten a cup of coffee in the E at some point or another.
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Mar 7, 2019 14:36:57 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels but only because of bad luck. Mechanically wise, he’s better than the Hardys or Edge or other members of his generation but he will never get his due. Absolutely not having this. I'm not sure what more Daniels could have done. He would never have been a top tier guy in WWE due to his size. I think the career he's had is a testament to his excellence. SCU!
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 7, 2019 14:39:48 GMT -5
Buff Bagwell. Good look, charisma, friends with the right guys backstage, found an act that worked for him when he joined the NWO... Then all improvement stopped and he became difficult to work with, flat out unprofessional at times and all upward progression stopped. He would have been world champion in the New Blood era, but his ship had sailed and he and Judy were the ones who set it adrift. This is my vote. Bagwell had made himself a real player in 1997-98 and could have carried that right over to WWE and had another lucrative 10 years. But nope. RVD with the pot bust is definitely up there. And Windham is a great choice, too. Surprised no one has mentioned Jeff Hardy or Ryback. The thing with Jeff is... Yeah he would have achieved a lot more if he hadn't been hopped up on goofballs at the height of his popularity, but I also don't think he WANTED to be the center of attention. He probably had the wrestling career he WANTED to have, give or take a couple big missteps.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 7, 2019 14:40:40 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels but only because of bad luck. Mechanically wise, he’s better than the Hardys or Edge or other members of his generation but he will never get his due. Absolutely not having this. I'm not sure what more Daniels could have done. He would never have been a top tier guy in WWE due to his size. I think the career he's had is a testament to his excellence. SCU! Yea, I think let's not mistake wasting their potential compared to overachieving or even making to where they are supposed to be
Daniels no doubt got the most of all his potential. The only thing he did not do that could have been realistic is a run with the TNA world title. In WWE he'd a guy you use as a character and part of creative. Hell, I still want him to come to WWE as a trainer and all that good shit he can provide for them in NXT at some point
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 7, 2019 14:46:54 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels but only because of bad luck. Mechanically wise, he’s better than the Hardys or Edge or other members of his generation but he will never get his due. Absolutely not having this. I'm not sure what more Daniels could have done. He would never have been a top tier guy in WWE due to his size. I think the career he's had is a testament to his excellence. SCU! Is he significantly different in size to AJ/Bryan/Punk? He's a little older, but he could have been a good midcard champion in WWE in the 2000s rather than a good midcarder in TNA easily.
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