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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 6, 2019 18:30:09 GMT -5
I’m sure others have done this. What are some things you have noticed?
1. They seem to get untruthful with the clock around 1999. 2. It’s sad to hear Carlito’s pop dissipate year after year. 3. God damn Michael Cole hated Matt Striker.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 6, 2019 18:32:05 GMT -5
They have always used Titan Time for the Royal Rumble.
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Post by fw91 on Mar 6, 2019 18:36:14 GMT -5
I’m sure others have done this. What are some things you have noticed? 1. They seem to get untruthful with the clock around 1999. This past year was the worst.
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 6, 2019 18:45:13 GMT -5
I’m sure others have done this. What are some things you have noticed? 1. They seem to get untruthful with the clock around 1999. 2. It’s sad to hear Carlito’s pop dissipate year after year. 3. God damn Michael Cole hated Matt Striker. The Rumbles that were properly timed for 2-minute intervals were from 1989 to 1993. The ones that were properly timed for 90-second intervals were from 2003 to 2008.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 6, 2019 19:15:14 GMT -5
First crazy rumble save spot was 2011. Maybe after the 10th year we can take a break on them.
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Post by clodhopper on Mar 6, 2019 19:22:32 GMT -5
Conspiracy thepory: the 'both feet must touch the floor' rule only exists because Michaels botched the finish in 1995 and let one foot hit the ground whilst skinning the cat. I could be wrong, of coure, but did they ever mention this rule pre-1995?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 6, 2019 19:31:04 GMT -5
Conspiracy thepory: the 'both feet must touch the floor' rule only exists because Michaels botched the finish in 1995 and let one foot hit the ground whilst skinning the cat. I could be wrong, of coure, but did they ever mention this rule pre-1995? Yes. Always.
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Post by clodhopper on Mar 6, 2019 19:33:32 GMT -5
Conspiracy thepory: the 'both feet must touch the floor' rule only exists because Michaels botched the finish in 1995 and let one foot hit the ground whilst skinning the cat. I could be wrong, of coure, but did they ever mention this rule pre-1995? Yes. Always. In that case, I stand corrected.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 6, 2019 19:39:12 GMT -5
In that case, I stand corrected. The harder they hit the rules, that’s how you know something screwy is gonna happen.
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Post by clodhopper on Mar 6, 2019 20:02:54 GMT -5
In that case, I stand corrected. The harder they hit the rules, that’s how you know something screwy is gonna happen. Because I've got absolutlely nothing better to do, I just watched Howard Finkel's intro to all the rumbles 88-96. He always says "over the top and onto the floor", until 1996 when Vince just before the start of the match specifically says "both feet..." so unless it comes up in commentary earlier on I still think there might be something to this. Also, I should probably get a life.
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Post by cjh on Mar 6, 2019 20:06:49 GMT -5
Conspiracy thepory: the 'both feet must touch the floor' rule only exists because Michaels botched the finish in 1995 and let one foot hit the ground whilst skinning the cat. I could be wrong, of coure, but did they ever mention this rule pre-1995? The replay after the match showed that Shawn managed to keep one foot off the floor the whole time.
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Post by clodhopper on Mar 6, 2019 20:14:10 GMT -5
Conspiracy thepory: the 'both feet must touch the floor' rule only exists because Michaels botched the finish in 1995 and let one foot hit the ground whilst skinning the cat. I could be wrong, of coure, but did they ever mention this rule pre-1995? The replay after the match showed that Shawn managed to keep one foot off the floor the whole time. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Prior to 95, would one foot have counted as an elimination? Pure speculation on my part, I've no way to know for sure.
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Post by cjh on Mar 6, 2019 20:34:52 GMT -5
The replay after the match showed that Shawn managed to keep one foot off the floor the whole time. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Prior to 95, would one foot have counted as an elimination? Pure speculation on my part, I've no way to know for sure. They never booked anything like that prior to '95. Guys just got eliminated and made no attempt to keep a foot off the floor. My point was that Shawn didn't botch the finish. He kept one foot off the floor as was planned.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 6, 2019 20:42:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Prior to 95, would one foot have counted as an elimination? Pure speculation on my part, I've no way to know for sure. They never booked anything like that prior to '95. Guys just got eliminated and made no attempt to keep a foot off the floor. My point was that Shawn didn't botch the finish. He kept one foot off the floor as was planned. No one is saying he didn't botch the finish. He didn't. We all know that. What the OP is saying is that the RULE "both feet must touch the floor" did not exist until that night, and was stressed by the announcers at the start of the match in a foreshadowing of the moment.
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Post by Macho Pichu on Mar 6, 2019 20:42:59 GMT -5
1. They seem to get untruthful with the clock around 1999. This never bothered me. Obviously the next entry is queued by someone hitting a particular spot, but you cant just outright say that. I'd rather them claim a specific time and fudge the numbers than use a meaningless phrase like "regular intervals" that they use for Elimination Chambers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 20:48:28 GMT -5
When WWE played 5 Rumbles back to back a week before this year's Rumble one thing I noticed is that they really repeat similar spots in every Rumble these days. The most unique spot seems to be those "Kofi saves himself" spots but this year they went overboard with it. How many times are we going to see the HBK hanging spot? How many times are we going to see the "face ducks from a running heel and heel goes over the rope" spot? We just see too many of the same things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 20:56:34 GMT -5
When WWE played 5 Rumbles back to back a week before this year's Rumble one thing I noticed is that they really repeat similar spots in every Rumble these days. The most unique spot seems to be those "Kofi saves himself" spots but this year they went overboard with it. How many times are we going to see the HBK hanging spot? How many times are we going to see the "face ducks from a running heel and heel goes over the rope" spot? We just see too many of the same things. That's partially due to the nature of the match though. Booking a rumble would be difficult with having to create some type of story or unique elimination for 29 people. After almost 30 years it must be difficult to keep things fresh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:08:04 GMT -5
When WWE played 5 Rumbles back to back a week before this year's Rumble one thing I noticed is that they really repeat similar spots in every Rumble these days. The most unique spot seems to be those "Kofi saves himself" spots but this year they went overboard with it. How many times are we going to see the HBK hanging spot? How many times are we going to see the "face ducks from a running heel and heel goes over the rope" spot? We just see too many of the same things. That's partially due to the nature of the match though. Booking a rumble would be difficult with having to create some type of story or unique elimination for 29 people. After almost 30 years it must be difficult to keep things fresh. There's a difference between everyone having a unique elimination and the company using the same unique elimination in every single Rumble. Some of these spots don't need to be shown in every Rumble, every few Rumbles is good but some of them? Nah. Even how these matches are laidout are very similar these days with it's whole "ring is cluttered so let's bring out a big superstar to eliminate the guys who have gotten their shit in" thing that they do. It's just all by the numbers rather than it being unique. I'd say the most unique thing from a booking standpoint thing that we've seen in a while had to have been 2018's ending with the old guard vs the new guard setup, that was great. I can't tell you anything about this year's Rumble besides the winners and the "Kofi spots" people did.
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Post by cjh on Mar 6, 2019 21:11:16 GMT -5
They never booked anything like that prior to '95. Guys just got eliminated and made no attempt to keep a foot off the floor. My point was that Shawn didn't botch the finish. He kept one foot off the floor as was planned. No one is saying he didn't botch the finish. He didn't. We all know that. What the OP is saying is that the RULE "both feet must touch the floor" did not exist until that night, and was stressed by the announcers at the start of the match in a foreshadowing of the moment. The poster I was responding to said he had his theory about the one-foot rule "because Michaels botched the finish in 1995 and let one foot hit the ground whilst skinning the cat." As far as I know, Michaels was told beforehand to let one foot touch the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:20:18 GMT -5
That's partially due to the nature of the match though. Booking a rumble would be difficult with having to create some type of story or unique elimination for 29 people. After almost 30 years it must be difficult to keep things fresh. There's a difference between everyone having a unique elimination and the company using the same unique elimination in every single Rumble. Some of these spots don't need to be shown in every Rumble, every few Rumbles is good but some of them? Nah. Even how these matches are laidout are very similar these days with it's whole "ring is cluttered so let's bring out a big superstar to eliminate the guys who have gotten their shit in" thing that they do. It's just all by the numbers rather than it being unique. I'd say the most unique thing from a booking standpoint thing that we've seen in a while had to have been 2018's ending with the old guard vs the new guard setup, that was great. I can't tell you anything about this year's Rumble besides the winners and the "Kofi spots" people did. Oh I agree you can kinda tell how the matches are gonna go and that's difficult to avoid when there has been 30 of them. They have gained their own tropes which fans have wisened up to and that makes it more difficult to book as years progress. This means that they should change their shit up but they're not doing it enough. You nailed two major tropes which are unique saves and the big bad monster clearing the ring. These are things they should either avoid or try to turn on their heads for shock or amusement. With two rumbles at the same show though this becomes much more difficult to do and still remain entertaining. Both of the rumbles this year were especially bad for the unique saves. They pay a ton of people so they should be able to figure it out but they haven't yet. Still though I don't envy having to book 2 rumbles in the same night and make them unique not only from each other but from previous years.
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