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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 11:25:35 GMT -5
Ugh, yeah, if "Vince changed his mind" because he felt having the SD women's title in a lower tier match on what's shaping up to be an 8 hour card wasn't worth it, then here's an idea: either book the title and champion better, or don't book Wrestlemania to have 17 matches and be 8 hours long. I think for a lot of people a key complaint here is the bigger picture of what booking like this tells us about WWE: Becky tapping out clean to Asuka at the Rumble should've been a big moment, but in the end it meant literally nothing. Losing that match had zero impact on Becky, who just won the Rumble, anyway and hasn't had to acknowledge the loss since. Winning that match did nothing to give Asuka a new direction or purpose, as she wasn't even really on TV for a long time afterward, so there was no glory in it, either. The match didn't inform anything that happened on later shows, it didn't create any new character wrinkles for either woman, it didn't help lead from one story into a new one, it did nothing. The match happened, it was good in the moment, but it had no consequence on anything whatsoever, so why should people care in the future when you book matches between talented people on your fake fighting show?I still think this means more for Becky than it ever did Asuka
Becky got to put over Asuka BUT she got to win the Rumble so that loss was null and void. That Rumble match in hindsight as I been saying the last month was more about Becky than it ever was Asuka
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Mar 27, 2019 11:26:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 11:40:54 GMT -5
Just talking about Asuka, her booking always baffles me. She’s definitely the best in ring wrestler among the women and is better than a whole lot of the guys. She’s pretty, she’s always over, she has charisma, etc. and yet she’s always kind of in the background. Literally the only thing that she has going against her is her promo ability, but even that isn’t that big of a mark against her because most of the women aren’t good talkers either and don’t have the excuse of having to speak a second language, not to mention that she has amazing body language. It can’t be because she’s older than the rest of the ladies, because she still looks younger than a lot of women that she has 7-10 years on,
It’s just so weird to me that they have someone so talented and they don’t really ever use her to her potential. Not like she’s the only one though, I guess.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 11:42:15 GMT -5
Just talking about Asuka, her booking always baffles me. She’s definitely the best in ring wrestler among the women and is better than a whole lot of the guys. She’s pretty, she’s always over, she has charisma, etc. and yet she’s always kind of in the background. Literally the only thing that she has going against her is her promo ability, but even that isn’t that big of a mark against her because most of the women aren’t good talkers either and don’t have the excuse of having to speak a second language, not to mention that she has amazing body language. It can’t be because she’s older than the rest of the ladies, because she still looks younger than a lot of women that she has 7-10 years on, It’s just so weird to me that they have someone so talented and they don’t really ever use her to her potential. Not like she’s the only one though, I guess. You don't need to be able to cut 10- 20 minutes monologue to be a big star. WWE never got that. Asuka has maybe even more charisma than Becky she doesn't need to have long promos.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 11:47:21 GMT -5
LMFAO Ayo chill lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 11:49:02 GMT -5
It’s just so weird to me that they have someone so talented and they don’t really ever use her to her potential. It's not weird, it's that WWE is run by an old, out-of-touch racist.
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Post by sunnytaker on Mar 27, 2019 11:54:06 GMT -5
oooh I got it!
becky shows up at NXT and randomly challenges ronda's good friend Bazler for the title. wins the NXT title so all three wwe women's singles titles are represented at mania while becky tweets "hey Ronnie I just took your real fighter friend's title, and at mania i'm taking yours to complete the set" while charlotte tweets "woooo! Queen! Chosen one! i'm still here too!"
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 27, 2019 11:54:27 GMT -5
LMFAO Ayo chill lol Nah I'm willing to say this needs a thread for all the people who have been booked into a basic Thanos Snap. Balor, Braun, No Way Jose, Mandy and Sonya, Apollo Crews, Ambrose, Rusev, Nakamura, Mustafa Ali's first name we have plenty to go off of...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 11:56:23 GMT -5
oooh I got it! becky shows up at NXT and randomly challenges ronda's good friend Bazler for the title. wins the NXT title so all three wwe women's singles titles are represented at mania while becky tweets "hey Ronnie I just took your real fighter friend's title, and at mania i'm taking yours to complete the set" while charlotte tweets "woooo! Queen! Chosen one! i'm still here too!" That gave me a nasty idea just now. Just imagine if Becky and Charlotte eventually face Bayley and Sasha for their belts and win and they do the "enemies teaming up" crap holding 2 belts each. That's just gross. We know they're future tag champs but who's to say they won't be single's champs down the line too just because they like the visual? Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:02:36 GMT -5
LMFAO Ayo chill lol Nah I'm willing to say this needs a thread for all the people who have been booked into a basic Thanos Snap. Balor, Braun, No Way Jose, Mandy and Sonya, Apollo Crews, Ambrose, Rusev, Nakamura, Mustafa Ali's first name we have plenty to go off of... Depends who. I don't think Asuka's near where most of these names are. Her booking is better than everyone else you named besides Ambrose. What happened last night doesn't put her in the same vein as the No Way Jose's lol.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 12:06:14 GMT -5
LMFAO Ayo chill lol Nah I'm willing to say this needs a thread for all the people who have been booked into a basic Thanos Snap. Balor, Braun, No Way Jose, Mandy and Sonya, Apollo Crews, Ambrose, Rusev, Nakamura, Mustafa Ali's first name we have plenty to go off of... Let's dial it back 10 notches
No Way Jose, Mandy, Sonya and Apollo is not on any of their levels lol especially head ass No Way Jose
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 12:07:37 GMT -5
oooh I got it! becky shows up at NXT and randomly challenges ronda's good friend Bazler for the title. wins the NXT title so all three wwe women's singles titles are represented at mania while becky tweets "hey Ronnie I just took your real fighter friend's title, and at mania i'm taking yours to complete the set" while charlotte tweets "woooo! Queen! Chosen one! i'm still here too!" That gave me a nasty idea just now. Just imagine if Becky and Charlotte eventually face Bayley and Sasha for their belts and win and they do the "enemies teaming up" crap holding 2 belts each. That's just gross. We know they're future tag champs but who's to say they won't be single's champs down the line too just because they like the visual? Ugh. Lol that be some bullshit
The mens roster nastiness would have sneaked up on the women
The women are usually the best thing on the show but shit is ughh with them lately
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 27, 2019 12:09:10 GMT -5
Nah I'm willing to say this needs a thread for all the people who have been booked into a basic Thanos Snap. Balor, Braun, No Way Jose, Mandy and Sonya, Apollo Crews, Ambrose, Rusev, Nakamura, Mustafa Ali's first name we have plenty to go off of... Let's dial it back 10 notches
No Way Jose, Mandy, Sonya and Apollo is not on any of their levels lol especially head ass No Way Jose
In fairness, Mandy's sort of being pushed that way. And, she is improving. So, I'll allow it. No Way Jose never had a chance. That boy was a bitch since day 1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:12:17 GMT -5
That gave me a nasty idea just now. Just imagine if Becky and Charlotte eventually face Bayley and Sasha for their belts and win and they do the "enemies teaming up" crap holding 2 belts each. That's just gross. We know they're future tag champs but who's to say they won't be single's champs down the line too just because they like the visual? Ugh. Lol that be some bullshit The mens roster nastiness would have sneaked up on the women The women are usually the best thing on the show but shit is ughh with them lately
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 12:13:22 GMT -5
Let's dial it back 10 notches
No Way Jose, Mandy, Sonya and Apollo is not on any of their levels lol especially head ass No Way Jose
In fairness, Mandy's sort of being pushed that way. And, she is improving. So, I'll allow it. No Way Jose never had a chance. That boy was a bitch since day 1. Mandy and Sonya are on their way up the ladder improving that's for sure but they aren't on the level yet
No Way Jose can pull off a slick ass Razor Ramon type gimmick I believe if they let him but yet he's stuck as Dominican Adam Rose with green extensions
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 12:16:57 GMT -5
Lol that be some bullshit The mens roster nastiness would have sneaked up on the women The women are usually the best thing on the show but shit is ughh with them lately
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao. Lol Vince only knows one way to do shit, run it into the ground
Don't say I didn't warn y'all about the backlash she will get at a certain point but I digress
Vince really doesn't know how to do things without going overboard. Well give them credit for Kofi because they are beating you over the head with this man is going to Mania but I don't trust Vince to actually have him win lol
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Mar 27, 2019 12:27:32 GMT -5
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao. Lol Vince only knows one way to do shit, run it into the ground
Don't say I didn't warn y'all about the backlash she will get at a certain point but I digress
Vince really doesn't know how to do things without going overboard. Well give them credit for Kofi because they are beating you over the head with this man is going to Mania but I don't trust Vince to actually have him win lol
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Kofi lose. I’m a little more than 50/50 that he’ll win or he might just get that standing ovation in a losing effort send off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:32:28 GMT -5
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao. Lol Vince only knows one way to do shit, run it into the ground
Don't say I didn't warn y'all about the backlash she will get at a certain point but I digress Vince really doesn't know how to do things without going overboard. Well give them credit for Kofi because they are beating you over the head with this man is going to Mania but I don't trust Vince to actually have him win lol
Yeah, we're already seeing the problems with Becky's booking and storylines and this is just the beginning. Just wait until she's champion. We saw it happen with Roman, Styles, Strowman, Charlotte, Rollins, it happens. It won't be out of nowhere either but yeah that's all I'll say on that until it happens lol. Vince is just that old dude who continuously tells you the same story over and over even though you've heard it repeatedly. He's then like "wait I told you that before?" Yeah old man, you did.
I think Kofi's definitely winning. I checked and 8 out of the 10 main roster titles are held by heels so there's gonna be a lot of title changes at WM. Kofi getting the belt makes sense. It also looks good from an optics standpoint given the lead champions will be doing huge press runs after WM.
Just imagine, on Good Morning America you've got Seth Rollins the Universal Champion, Kofi Kingston the WWE Champion, Becky Lynch the Raw Women's Champion and Charlotte Flair the SDL Women's Champion. White guy, black guy and 2 white women. Sure if Asuka was champion it would be better from an optics standpoint but that's better than 2 whites dudes and 2 white women lmao. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 12:32:48 GMT -5
Lol Vince only knows one way to do shit, run it into the ground
Don't say I didn't warn y'all about the backlash she will get at a certain point but I digress
Vince really doesn't know how to do things without going overboard. Well give them credit for Kofi because they are beating you over the head with this man is going to Mania but I don't trust Vince to actually have him win lol
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Kofi lose. I’m a little more than 50/50 that he’ll win or he might just get that standing ovation in a losing effort send off. If the slight racism aspect of it wasn't there i'd be sure he was losing in a hard fought effort
However, when they introduced that aspect it's almost like he has to win and if he doesn't there will be a shit storm to endure especially if Becky and Seth don't pick up W's
Kofi if he wins was never going to get a long reign out of this and may lose it back as soon as that SD but if he losses at Mania that may kill the mood big time
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 27, 2019 12:35:45 GMT -5
Lol that be some bullshit The mens roster nastiness would have sneaked up on the women The women are usually the best thing on the show but shit is ughh with them lately
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao.
Right, these smark-triggering bits of booking Charlotte's getting are mainly intended to make fans want to cheer Becky more. Which is logical as Vince clearly wants Becky to be a top face, but a lot of fans struggle to see that's the point and take their anger out on Charlotte herself as if the booking is her choice.
And I've said it before, but its going to be fascinating to see what they do with the Raw and SDL women's divisions post-Mania, as I'm assuming Charlotte stays on SDL to help lead the division in the build to SDL-on-Fox. I hope Becky manages to run with the responsibility of leading a women's division (cause she was technically the lead figure in the 2016 SDL division, but this is bigger and with higher stakes), but you'll know things aren't going the best if people start blaming Raw's booking for 'ruining' Becky.
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