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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 12:37:42 GMT -5
Lol Vince only knows one way to do shit, run it into the ground
Don't say I didn't warn y'all about the backlash she will get at a certain point but I digress Vince really doesn't know how to do things without going overboard. Well give them credit for Kofi because they are beating you over the head with this man is going to Mania but I don't trust Vince to actually have him win lol
Yeah, we're already seeing the problems with Becky's booking and storylines and this is just the beginning. Just wait until she's champion. We saw it happen with Roman, Styles, Strowman, Charlotte, Rollins, it happens. It won't be out of nowhere either but yeah that's all I'll say on that until it happens lol. Vince is just that old dude who continuously tells you the same story over and over even though you've heard it repeatedly. He's then like "wait I told you that before?" Yeah old man, you did.
I think Kofi's definitely winning. I checked and 8 out of the 10 main roster titles are held by heels so there's gonna be a lot of title changes at WM. Kofi getting the belt makes sense. It also looks good from an optics standpoint given the lead champions will be doing huge press runs after WM.
Just imagine, on Good Morning America you've got Seth Rollins the Universal Champion, Kofi Kingston the WWE Champion, Becky Lynch the Raw Women's Champion and Charlotte Flair the SDL Women's Champion. White guy, black guy and 2 white women. Sure if Asuka was champion it would be better from an optics standpoint but that's better than 2 whites dudes and 2 white women lmao. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better.
This is a Mania where if you have Becky, Seth and Kofi win the titles, WWE can legit say we gave you guys a "good ending" as opposed to their general reckless nature
Becky is winning so there is no doubt in that but you can't have both Kofi and Seth lose. One of them has to win
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:41:20 GMT -5
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao. Right, these smark-triggering bits of booking Charlotte's getting are mainly intended to make fans want to cheer Becky more. Which is logical as Vince clearly wants Becky to be a top face, but a lot of fans struggle to see that's the point and take their anger out on Charlotte herself as if the booking is her choice. And I've said it before, but its going to be fascinating to see what they do with the Raw and SDL women's divisions post-Mania, as I'm assuming Charlotte stays on SDL to help lead the division in the build to SDL-on-Fox. I hope Becky manages to run with the responsibility of leading a women's division (cause she was technically the lead figure in the 2016 SDL division, but this is bigger and with higher stakes), but you'll know things aren't going the best if people start blaming Raw's booking for 'ruining' Becky.
Right. There's things Vince does when he books his lead babyface and those said things damaged guys fans like. It happened to Reigns, Strowman, it happens to most of these wrestlers who have rose up these past 3 years or so and right now you can even see it beginning to happen to Becky. The difference is people don't think it'll damage her. We gon see lol. This whole Charlotte thing is just there to say "Becky beat the 2 lead champions and became better than them" and in a way that's very Reignsish when it comes to booking hence Meltzer's comments. We all remember how Reigns beat someone just to add another accolade to his belt. The cycle continues, more accolades are gained and then people are like "wow I wish it went to somebody else" but hey, it's what you want.
It's really like that Twisted Metal ending I brought up in that other thread. Ain't this what you want?
Charlotte's just a placeholder. At the end of the day she's going to be used as a stepping stone for Becky even though she doesn't deserve it. She's doing what she can to propel her best friend.
I'm guessing Charlotte stays on SDL while Becky leads Raw and beats up heel after heel until the MITB winner ends up surprising her and beating her resulting in a lot of cheers for whoever that winner will be, possibly Ruby Riott. I'll say for Becky's sake she better not face Asuka. If Becky faces Asuka again after all that's happened with Asuka? It can get rough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:43:13 GMT -5
This is a Mania where if you have Becky, Seth and Kofi win the titles, WWE can legit say we gave you guys a "good ending" as opposed to their general reckless nature
Becky is winning so there is no doubt in that but you can't have both Kofi and Seth lose. One of them has to win
That's really all they have to do. Corbin can make Angle tap out to his own ankle lock, Bayley and Sasha can lose to Nia and Tamina and Lashley can beat the Demon clean. If they give us those 3 main title wins then hey they're good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:52:21 GMT -5
This feels like a situation for Asuka like with Kevin Owens where they will do a make good for them later on in the year given the changes in WM plans cost them pretty badly. "I'll owe ya one, pal"
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 12:55:48 GMT -5
It reeaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy makes you think. Those "hey Becky might end up like Roman" comments might not be too far off down the line. We'll see. Vince is going by the only playbook he knows in regards to making megastars. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Becky roll up in a quinoa truck. I wouldn't be surprised if Becky says "burn it down" given the rumors of her dating Rollins, I mean that helped him out lmao. Right, these smark-triggering bits of booking Charlotte's getting are mainly intended to make fans want to cheer Becky more. Which is logical as Vince clearly wants Becky to be a top face, but a lot of fans struggle to see that's the point and take their anger out on Charlotte herself as if the booking is her choice. And I've said it before, but its going to be fascinating to see what they do with the Raw and SDL women's divisions post-Mania, as I'm assuming Charlotte stays on SDL to help lead the division in the build to SDL-on-Fox. I hope Becky manages to run with the responsibility of leading a women's division (cause she was technically the lead figure in the 2016 SDL division, but this is bigger and with higher stakes), but you'll know things aren't going the best if people start blaming Raw's booking for 'ruining' Becky.
The flaw is that it doesnt work like that.Charlotte winning the SD title from Asuka doesnt make we want to see more Charlotte or see her lose.It just makes fan associate more Charlotte with ruining stories and push,which ends with people wanting to avoid Charlotte,while adding nothing to the title match. Not all negative feedback is heat
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Post by Tenshigure on Mar 27, 2019 13:44:14 GMT -5
Right, these smark-triggering bits of booking Charlotte's getting are mainly intended to make fans want to cheer Becky more. Which is logical as Vince clearly wants Becky to be a top face, but a lot of fans struggle to see that's the point and take their anger out on Charlotte herself as if the booking is her choice. And I've said it before, but its going to be fascinating to see what they do with the Raw and SDL women's divisions post-Mania, as I'm assuming Charlotte stays on SDL to help lead the division in the build to SDL-on-Fox. I hope Becky manages to run with the responsibility of leading a women's division (cause she was technically the lead figure in the 2016 SDL division, but this is bigger and with higher stakes), but you'll know things aren't going the best if people start blaming Raw's booking for 'ruining' Becky.
The flaw is that it doesnt work like that.Charlotte winning the SD title from Asuka doesnt make we want to see more Charlotte or see her lose.It just makes fan associate more Charlotte with ruining stories and push,which ends with people wanting to avoid Charlotte,while adding nothing to the title match. Not all negative feedback is heat So...Charlotte is the female Baron Corbin? KIDDING!! ...maybe...
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 13:57:27 GMT -5
The flaw is that it doesnt work like that.Charlotte winning the SD title from Asuka doesnt make we want to see more Charlotte or see her lose.It just makes fan associate more Charlotte with ruining stories and push,which ends with people wanting to avoid Charlotte,while adding nothing to the title match. Not all negative feedback is heat So...Charlotte is the female Baron Corbin? KIDDING!! ...maybe... I would say partially at least. She can play the right character to a good degree and can put great matches.That is more than Corbin has shown
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Post by Woo on Mar 27, 2019 14:02:01 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title?
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Post by Woo on Mar 27, 2019 14:03:50 GMT -5
Remember when Asuka was undefeated and we thought she might be the one main eventing against Ronda? Pepperidge Farm Remembers Still confused how they messed that angle up. That should have been a huge match.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 14:05:04 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title? Asuka losing on SD is less backlash than it would have if she lost at Mania to Charlotte again
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Mar 27, 2019 14:21:53 GMT -5
Hope she wins at Wrestlemania
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 14:35:00 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title? Because Ronda sucks.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 27, 2019 14:40:46 GMT -5
Nah I'm willing to say this needs a thread for all the people who have been booked into a basic Thanos Snap. Balor, Braun, No Way Jose, Mandy and Sonya, Apollo Crews, Ambrose, Rusev, Nakamura, Mustafa Ali's first name we have plenty to go off of... Let's dial it back 10 notches
No Way Jose, Mandy, Sonya and Apollo is not on any of their levels lol especially head ass No Way Jose
Now hey you gotta hear me out on this one, all the Avengers that got snapped aren't on the same level either, they were all different forms of power and showcased! I'm just talking about booking, whether it's start and stop, even DOA, they could be considered the fallen I dunno man it'd be a funny thread idea
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 14:46:54 GMT -5
Let's dial it back 10 notches
No Way Jose, Mandy, Sonya and Apollo is not on any of their levels lol especially head ass No Way Jose
Now hey you gotta hear me out on this one, all the Avengers that got snapped aren't on the same level either, they were all different forms of power and showcased! I'm just talking about booking, whether it's start and stop, even DOA, they could be considered the fallen I dunno man it'd be a funny thread idea People would get the wrong idea and think everyone who was snapped they don't have plans for but the reality is no, everyone who was snapped will definitely be back in future MCU with major plans. Those who weren't snapped are likely to be taken out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 14:58:06 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title? Exactly. They could have had two high profile women’s matches and ended the show with the four women crying and embracing (“because shit is fake” - Rousey), which seems to be exactly what they intend to do anyway. The Charlotte/Asuka title switch baffles me. It makes no sense on any level.
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Post by Diamond Cutter Out of Nowhere! on Mar 27, 2019 15:02:32 GMT -5
I didn't mind the title switch, though it was apparent the moment they announced it that it was going to happen. I'm all for more random title changes on TV versus PPV. Unlike most of FAN, I'm not tired of Charlotte.
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Post by Texas Tornado on Mar 27, 2019 15:06:02 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title? It's very clear that they don't trust Ronda to carry half of a major WM feud on her own. The simple fact that Lynch and Flair have been all over Smackdown basically having a separate feud while feuding with Rousey on Raw says as much. They recognize Rousey's weaknesses and instead of booking around them; they've decided to throw everything and the kitchen sink at the feud to make up for them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 15:13:10 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title? It's very clear that they don't trust Ronda to carry half of a major WM feud on her own. The simple fact that Lynch and Flair have been all over Smackdown basically having a separate feud while feuding with Rousey on Raw says as much. They recognize Rousey's weaknesses and instead of booking around them; they've decided to throw everything and the kitchen sink at the feud to make up for them. More than that, I'd say they couldn't book around her weaknesses. Ronda herself is very hands on with her character, promos and even matches. It's probably something to do with her contract. The woman gets extra time that others don't get to rehearse before her ppv matches days before the event, she and Heyman write her promos themselves and she comes up with the ideas most of the time, she's the one who paid the money to get Bad Reputation, it's very much her. Chances are given how hands on Ronda is the company couldn't really book her a different way given so they said "well f***, we gotta book around her to save this feud" hence what we're seeing now with the Becky and Charlotte stuff away from Ronda. Ronda was gonna go that whole pregnancy joke before Heyman told her about the WM main event a few days ago. She's just not the one.
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Post by Texas Tornado on Mar 27, 2019 15:18:36 GMT -5
It's very clear that they don't trust Ronda to carry half of a major WM feud on her own. The simple fact that Lynch and Flair have been all over Smackdown basically having a separate feud while feuding with Rousey on Raw says as much. They recognize Rousey's weaknesses and instead of booking around them; they've decided to throw everything and the kitchen sink at the feud to make up for them. More than that, I'd say they couldn't book around her weaknesses. Ronda herself is very hands on with her character, promos and even matches. It's probably something to do with her contract. The woman gets extra time that others don't get to rehearse before her ppv matches days before the event, she and Heyman write her promos themselves and she comes up with the ideas most of the time, she's the one who paid the money to get Bad Reputation, it's very much her. Chances are given how hands on Ronda is the company couldn't really book her a different way given so they said "well f***, we gotta book around her to save this feud" hence what we're seeing now with the Becky and Charlotte stuff away from Ronda. Ronda was gonna go that whole pregnancy joke before Heyman told her about the WM main event a few days ago. She's just not the one. Good point. I know a lot of people hate that Charlotte's involved in the triple threat (even I wanted Asuka to get her win back at WM instead of this mess), but it's very evident that WWE has her there to hold Ronda's hand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 15:37:38 GMT -5
More than that, I'd say they couldn't book around her weaknesses. Ronda herself is very hands on with her character, promos and even matches. It's probably something to do with her contract. The woman gets extra time that others don't get to rehearse before her ppv matches days before the event, she and Heyman write her promos themselves and she comes up with the ideas most of the time, she's the one who paid the money to get Bad Reputation, it's very much her. Chances are given how hands on Ronda is the company couldn't really book her a different way given so they said "well f***, we gotta book around her to save this feud" hence what we're seeing now with the Becky and Charlotte stuff away from Ronda. Ronda was gonna go that whole pregnancy joke before Heyman told her about the WM main event a few days ago. She's just not the one. Good point. I know a lot of people hate that Charlotte's involved in the triple threat (even I wanted Asuka to get her win back at WM instead of this mess), but it's very evident that WWE has her there to hold Ronda's hand. Yeah and if it wasn't going to be Charlotte it would have been somebody else they could throw in there. Just imagine if we didn't have any of the Charlotte stuff this feud and instead for more Ronda promo segments, more Ronda hijinks, just more of that stuff. The feud would end up being worse than it is now. Ronda's just too prideful to admit that maybe she needs to switch things up.
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