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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 15:48:16 GMT -5
Good point. I know a lot of people hate that Charlotte's involved in the triple threat (even I wanted Asuka to get her win back at WM instead of this mess), but it's very evident that WWE has her there to hold Ronda's hand. Yeah and if it wasn't going to be Charlotte it would have been somebody else they could throw in there. Just imagine if we didn't have any of the Charlotte stuff this feud and instead for more Ronda promo segments, more Ronda hijinks, just more of that stuff. The feud would end up being worse than it is now. Ronda's just too prideful to admit that maybe she needs to switch things up. Mhm. It’s why I have no problems with Charlotte being in the triple threat. I still don’t. It’s totally in Charlotte’s character for her to not want to put her own title on the line, yet, have no problems taking Ronda’s title and Becky’s moment.
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Post by northernmonkey on Mar 27, 2019 15:49:30 GMT -5
I dont mind it, that way both belts get to be in the first women's main event assuming they put both on the line
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 16:09:25 GMT -5
Why not just do Flair vs Asuka at Wrestlemania... Again.... If they wanted all the horsewomen to have a title? It's very clear that they don't trust Ronda to carry half of a major WM feud on her own. The simple fact that Lynch and Flair have been all over Smackdown basically having a separate feud while feuding with Rousey on Raw says as much. They recognize Rousey's weaknesses and instead of booking around them; they've decided to throw everything and the kitchen sink at the feud to make up for them. Charlotte is just there to have the rub. WWE endorse the kayfabe breaking she did in their storyline and backstage,they don't see it as an issue. And Charlotte did nothing to even help this feud,she literally just monologued on smackdown and beat asuka,which is.not involved with this story at all. If she had interacted more with Ronda I could see it being the case
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:19:33 GMT -5
Yeah and if it wasn't going to be Charlotte it would have been somebody else they could throw in there. Just imagine if we didn't have any of the Charlotte stuff this feud and instead for more Ronda promo segments, more Ronda hijinks, just more of that stuff. The feud would end up being worse than it is now. Ronda's just too prideful to admit that maybe she needs to switch things up. Mhm. It’s why I have no problems with Charlotte being in the triple threat. I still don’t. It’s totally in Charlotte’s character for her to not want to put her own title on the line, yet, have no problems taking Ronda’s title and Becky’s moment. Yep, Charlotte's here as a helper ultimately. She understands her role in this.
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 27, 2019 16:35:36 GMT -5
Nah I'm willing to say this needs a thread for all the people who have been booked into a basic Thanos Snap. Balor, Braun, No Way Jose, Mandy and Sonya, Apollo Crews, Ambrose, Rusev, Nakamura, Mustafa Ali's first name we have plenty to go off of... Depends who. I don't think Asuka's near where most of these names are. Her booking is better than everyone else you named besides Ambrose. What happened last night doesn't put her in the same vein as the No Way Jose's lol. Yeah! She's not Broke Ass Zack from DOA. She's more of a Blue Mary.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 28, 2019 4:50:42 GMT -5
What a mess. If anything they have made the match look weaker IMO, you had Charlotte & Becky aiming for a title, now Charlotte has a title, it devlaues her goal here a bit, and if Lynch pins Flair to protect Rousey, then we are just back in the exact same position we was in December before they took the title off her and put it on Asuka.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 28, 2019 5:11:36 GMT -5
What a mess. If anything they have made the match look weaker IMO, you had Charlotte & Becky aiming for a title, now Charlotte has a title, it devlaues her goal here a bit, and if Lynch pins Flair to protect Rousey, then we are just back in the exact same position we was in December before they took the title off her and put it on Asuka. My eyes are going lopsided reading that. How is this something you didn’t think about MONTHS ago? Especially since Ronda was always going to main event WrestleMania this year.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 28, 2019 5:36:03 GMT -5
And apparently, it's not like they had anything special planned for Asuka, it was just going to be her versus Mandy Rose again.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 28, 2019 5:42:24 GMT -5
I am starting to think they are sabotaging their own main event here. It seriously would not surprise me at all.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 28, 2019 6:03:53 GMT -5
I am starting to think they are sabotaging their own main event here. It seriously would not surprise me at all. It's not sabotage, it's them trying to make this match the biggest deal they can the only way they know how, by adding things and adding things and adding things until you just want the match to happen already so things just stop being added. This match was arguably sold by one promo back in January, if not on Lynch's promos back in November. Should they have kept it way simpler than this? F***ing oath, they should have. But, at times, I've felt like we've wanted it to be to be TOO simple. Weeks of just promos and training montages wouldn't cut it. We'd have been bored of it in a month, especially with Rousey, as it's been proven, being unable to counter back on Lynch or even Flair with promos in any significant way. You gotta have SOME storyline twists here and there, otherwise wrestling just becomes MMA with a script. Use those advantages, but don't spam them like WWE have here.
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Post by mistery on Mar 28, 2019 6:52:34 GMT -5
Worth noting that the rumored plans AFTER Wrestlemania include the Charlotte/Becky feud CONTINUING. WWE sees Charlotte/Becky as a feud that can carry them into the foreseeable future.
So Asuka got screwed over. For a feud that people are already growing sick of. Honestly if they shove Asuka to the side and don't make her a major factor in the division, I sorta hope she doesn't sign a new deal.
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 28, 2019 7:20:12 GMT -5
They need to do a massive overhaul in the draft and switch these rosters up big time. I would build to Asuka/Lynch feud after Mania, give Charlotte something else to do and like Rousey will be gone.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Mar 28, 2019 7:40:55 GMT -5
I am starting to think they are sabotaging their own main event here. It seriously would not surprise me at all. It's not sabotage, it's them trying to make this match the biggest deal they can the only way they know how, by adding things and adding things and adding things until you just want the match to happen already so things just stop being added. This match was arguably sold by one promo back in January, if not on Lynch's promos back in November. Should they have kept it way simpler than this? F***ing oath, they should have. But, at times, I've felt like we've wanted it to be to be TOO simple. Weeks of just promos and training montages wouldn't cut it. We'd have been bored of it in a month, especially with Rousey, as it's been proven, being unable to counter back on Lynch or even Flair with promos in any significant way. You gotta have SOME storyline twists here and there, otherwise wrestling just becomes MMA with a script. Use those advantages, but don't spam them like WWE have here. It’s like someone building a really cool LEGO tower and deciding to add more and more stuff to make it “cooler”, but the darn thing ends up collapsing under its own weight.
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Post by Doctor No on Mar 28, 2019 7:45:42 GMT -5
Mhm. It’s why I have no problems with Charlotte being in the triple threat. I still don’t. It’s totally in Charlotte’s character for her to not want to put her own title on the line, yet, have no problems taking Ronda’s title and Becky’s moment. Yep, Charlotte's here as a helper ultimately. She understands her role in this. That’s SDL Women’s Champion Mania Helper.
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Post by Rican on Mar 28, 2019 8:26:29 GMT -5
Any outcome other than Becky going over Ronda is a let down. We’ve seen Becky beat Charlotte. We’ve seen Becky with that belt. Becky winning the SmackDown title from Charlotte feels like a consolation prize.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:02:20 GMT -5
You gotta have SOME storyline twists here and there, otherwise wrestling just becomes MMA with a script. Honestly, UFC has been eating WWE's lunch in terms of PPVs and whatnot for years now, and WWE has been largely unable to write compelling storylines within their own fictional universe for close to two decades now. Would this really be the worst idea in the world? Would WWE finally abandoning the hokey remnants of kayfabe they so stubbornly cling to - screwjobs and corrupt authority figures and feuds that just never, ever end - in favor of a sports-like presentation be a bad thing? There's an article that the website Work of Wrestling did last year, which I'll link to here: workofwrestling.com/the-mcmahon-behind-the-curtain-0Regardless of what you think of the particulars (opinions on the Roman/Brock feud were largely negative, and some of the ideas presented sort of undermine the idea of having wrestling matches at all), I think the article's central thesis is overall a good idea. Establishing a new kayfabe that more closely aligns with reality, rather than the needlessly convoluted shit-awful storytelling WWE attempts, would be a shot in the arm and might actually make the product feel vital and enjoyable again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:17:48 GMT -5
Basically, it doesn't depend on Becky or Charlotte's storylines or who they are to the company, it all depends on Ronda's contracting status.
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Post by repomark on Mar 28, 2019 9:27:01 GMT -5
So now I am very confused....
Whilst I don’t agree with the treatment of Asuka, I could at least understand adding the SD women’s title into the mix of the main event if the winner gets both belts.
But what possible benefit is there if only whoever gets pinned loses their title? If they dont want Ronda to take the loss then Becky could have still beaten Charlotte and taken Ronda’s belt - now they don’t even have that option.
Perplexing if they go down this route instead of unification.
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Post by cjh on Mar 28, 2019 9:32:43 GMT -5
So now I am very confused.... Whilst I don’t agree with the treatment of Asuka, I could at least understand adding the SD women’s title into the mix of the main event if the winner gets both belts. But what possible benefit is there if only whoever gets pinned loses their title? If they dont want Ronda to take the loss then Becky could have still beaten Charlotte and taken Ronda’s belt - now they don’t even have that option. Perplexing if they go down this route instead of unification. This way, if Ronda is staying, they can keep the Raw title on her while having Becky win the match (and the Smackdown title).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:34:56 GMT -5
So now I am very confused.... Whilst I don’t agree with the treatment of Asuka, I could at least understand adding the SD women’s title into the mix of the main event if the winner gets both belts. But what possible benefit is there if only whoever gets pinned loses their title? If they dont want Ronda to take the loss then Becky could have still beaten Charlotte and taken Ronda’s belt - now they don’t even have that option. Perplexing if they go down this route instead of unification. This way, if Ronda is staying, they can keep the Raw title on her while having Becky win the match (and the Smackdown title). If they go that route it’s kind of hollow though. The entire thing was built on Becky beating Ronda, fans are going to shit all over anything else. Not to mention that this feud is dying a death anyways, I’d hate to see how bad it is if they drag it out another few months.
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