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Post by héad.casé on Mar 27, 2019 6:00:48 GMT -5
I didn't actually hear the news reported a few hours earlier about SD having something happening that could change the Main Event of Mania. I saw Charlotte vs Asuka on the show, saw they announced it for the title, really enjoyed the match - seriously it was really f***ing good. But I thought "How do they book the finish to this to keep both strong heading in to Mania?". I had a slight niggle in the back of my head they really would put the title on Charlotte.
I just felt bad for the SDL Women that'll now probably be in a Battle Royal on the Kickoff Show.
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Post by chronocross on Mar 27, 2019 6:08:08 GMT -5
Once it was announced as a title match, I knew it was a wrap for Asuka, she'll probably be on the women's battle royal on the preshow more than likely.
As for the Mania main event, they've got to have Becky go over Ronda there, knowing WWE they'll have Ronda retain.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Mar 27, 2019 6:57:04 GMT -5
*footage not shown* HHH excusing himself from the backstage area and going outside to beat the shit out of cars with his sledgehammer. But for reals tho, wanna know what pissed me off just as much as Asuka losing? This picture here (a shot I captured for my video review): It's cool showing that everyone is solidly behind Kofi, but ASUKA JUST LOST HER f***ING TITLE!! Like...LITERALLY just lost her championship less than an hour ago!! She should not be happy and dancing. FFS. "SHE LOVES TO HAVE FUN!" - Michael Cole, probably
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 7:18:44 GMT -5
According to Dave:
I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though.
You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 7:21:07 GMT -5
*footage not shown* HHH excusing himself from the backstage area and going outside to beat the shit out of cars with his sledgehammer. But for reals tho, wanna know what pissed me off just as much as Asuka losing? This picture here (a shot I captured for my video review): It's cool showing that everyone is solidly behind Kofi, but ASUKA JUST LOST HER f***ING TITLE!! Like...LITERALLY just lost her championship less than an hour ago!! She should not be happy and dancing. FFS. f*** sake man. Would it kill them to NOT have Asuka there? This is WWE’s biggest problem. Lack of continuity and character development. God forbid Asuka might be angry at losing her title.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 7:21:33 GMT -5
The only reaosn people wont care is because HE DIDNT BUILD UP.
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Post by Rican on Mar 27, 2019 7:22:54 GMT -5
On top of all the other reasons it would be stupid, I’d hate the 4 Horsewomen posing with all the belts at the end of the show because are they all even friends? Bayley and Sasha seem close and Charlotte and Becky seem close, but I think Ronda was telling the truth when she said Becky and Charlotte wouldn’t piss on Sasha if she was on fire. At least the MSG curtain call and the WM20 ending were real moments between close friends. The four horsewomen feels really forced and manufactured.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 27, 2019 7:23:24 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. But...that’s on him and creative to do that. If they wanted Asuka and another contender to matter at WrestleMania...it’s entirely up to them to do that. Like, looking at it, sure, the logic is there but...again, if they wanted to do something about it, it’s not like the idea isn’t obvious to do or change. It was like when stuff came out about Vince not wanting Braun to face Brock again because he’s lost too many times to him and it’s like...who made him lose all those times, chucklehead?
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Post by adamclark52 on Mar 27, 2019 7:24:02 GMT -5
You know I was like, "WTF" until I remembered recently a rumor that WWE tossed the Evolution ending for Wrestlemania. So now my guess? Sasha and Bailey retain the belts, Becky beats Rhonda, and the ending is the four horsewomen of the WWE holding all four of their titles above their heads. So basically the Benoit and Guerrero ending. THAT'S A HELL OV A MOMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 27, 2019 7:25:37 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. Not that we can guarantee it would have happened anyway, but it sucks Ember Moon got injured as Asuka/Ember would have been an awesome SDL title match.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 7:26:58 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. But...that’s on him and creative to do that. If they wanted Asuka and another contender to matter at WrestleMania...it’s entirely up to them to do that. Like, looking at it, sure, the logic is there but...again, if they wanted to do something about it, it’s not like the idea isn’t obvious to do or change. It was like when stuff came out about Vince not wanting Braun to face Brock again because he’s lost too many times to him and it’s like...who made him lose all those times, chucklehead? Or when they didnt want to push Dean because he was "damaged goods". How many shows they didnt have Asuka in after the rumble? SHE MADE BECKY TAP OUT CLEAN. You had all the momentum in the world.Also maybe you could have went with the better writing of having Charlotte fight after Asuka instead of shoved into the triple threat
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 7:28:13 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. But...that’s on him and creative to do that. If they wanted Asuka and another contender to matter at WrestleMania...it’s entirely up to them to do that. Like, looking at it, sure, the logic is there but...again, if they wanted to do something about it, it’s not like the idea isn’t obvious to do or change. It was like when stuff came out about Vince not wanting Braun to face Brock again because he’s lost too many times to him and it’s like...who made him lose all those times, chucklehead? For sure, however, even with a story, I really don’t think anyone would’ve cared for either competitor in that fatal four way or would’ve believed they had a chance. If it was mandy, it would solely come down to having the look and would have people a bit nervous. If it was Sonya, her mic skills would’ve certainly done the match zero favors. If it was Carmella, people would’ve been nervous in her beating Asuka again, and if it was Naomi, no one wouldn’t really care. I agree with your view though, it does certainly boil down to creative.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 27, 2019 7:28:14 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. But...that’s on him and creative to do that. If they wanted Asuka and another contender to matter at WrestleMania...it’s entirely up to them to do that. Like, looking at it, sure, the logic is there but...again, if they wanted to do something about it, it’s not like the idea isn’t obvious to do or change. It was like when stuff came out about Vince not wanting Braun to face Brock again because he’s lost too many times to him and it’s like...who made him lose all those times, chucklehead? It's like I said in another thread, once Lynch declared herself challenging for the RAW belt, that's where she should have stayed to build the match up, and same with Charlotte once she got added. That frees up TV time on SmackDown that could have gone to keeping Asuka's momentum going and building up a challenger for her, and then you'd have a title match with a little bit of spice to it.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Mar 27, 2019 7:28:51 GMT -5
On top of all the other reasons it would be stupid, I’d hate the 4 Horsewomen posing with all the belts at the end of the show because are they all even friends? Bayley and Sasha seem close and Charlotte and Becky seem close, but I think Ronda was telling the truth when she said Becky and Charlotte wouldn’t piss on Sasha if she was on fire. At least the MSG curtain call and the WM20 ending were real moments between close friends. The four horsewomen feels really forced and manufactured. I don't know if I'm ENTIRELY of that thought. I think they've had enough moments together in NXT (particularly the curtain call after Brooklyn I) that this wouldn't feel AS forced. Granted, if you don't have that background, I can understand why it might appear forced, but that also might be why WWE (at least on social media) has been accentuating subtle hand flashes between Becky, Bayley and (I think) Sasha.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 7:28:57 GMT -5
It’s blatantly obvious that the Horsewomen are gonna close Mania with the 4 belts.
The only problem is... why would Charlotte join in if she’s just lost to Becky?
What am I talking about. Of course she’s gonna be holding up her own title, full of smiles and hugs with the woman she’s supposed to hate.
Ugh.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Mar 27, 2019 7:29:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 7:29:35 GMT -5
But...that’s on him and creative to do that. If they wanted Asuka and another contender to matter at WrestleMania...it’s entirely up to them to do that. Like, looking at it, sure, the logic is there but...again, if they wanted to do something about it, it’s not like the idea isn’t obvious to do or change. It was like when stuff came out about Vince not wanting Braun to face Brock again because he’s lost too many times to him and it’s like...who made him lose all those times, chucklehead? Or when they didnt want to push Dean because he was "damaged goods". How many shows they didnt have Asuka in after the rumble? SHE MADE BECKY TAP OUT CLEAN. You had all the momentum in the world They didn’t have her on the show at that time because everyone and their mother was in the women’s chamber. You would’ve had a heatless match or a heatless mini feud between Asuka/Lana that would’ve just been a squash and did nothing for no one. I can’t fault them for doing that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 7:31:06 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. Not that we can guarantee it would have happened anyway, but it sucks Ember Moon got injured as Asuka/Ember would have been an awesome SDL title match. For sure. I would’ve loved to see Ember traded to SDL and gotten her shot against Asuka. Hell, I honestly think that was the plan before she was unfortunately injured.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2019 7:31:55 GMT -5
Or when they didnt want to push Dean because he was "damaged goods". How many shows they didnt have Asuka in after the rumble? SHE MADE BECKY TAP OUT CLEAN. You had all the momentum in the world They didn’t have her on the show at that time because everyone and their mother was in the women’s chamber. You would’ve had a heatless match or a heatless mini feud between Asuka/Lana that would’ve just been a squash and did nothing for no one. I can’t fault them for doing that. I can.You can have her wathcing the matches, involved in a feud with one of the teams. "Its hard" is never an excuse.Hell have her in one of the teams instead of Naomi and Carmella,sure she loses but if her teamate gets pinned ,she is protected pretty much like Nia.
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Post by BigAl on Mar 27, 2019 7:35:59 GMT -5
According to Dave: I mean..although the decision is a head scratcher, I can’t blame him one bit. We might say it now in hindsight, but no one would’ve cared about her facing Mandy, Carmella, Sonya, or Naomi. And when they did at least attempt to make Mandy a threat, no one cared, and when they did, they thought the worst. Can’t say I blame the old dude as it was a tough spot. Still doesn’t make sense though. You could make a case for Alexa, but she might still be dealing with nagging issues for all we know and is just working the house show loop or felt like Alexa/Asuka shouldn’t be that below the card. Oh God no please keep Alexa away from the title picture for a long long time she does not need to beat Trish Stratus record at this point in her career
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