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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 29, 2019 15:50:49 GMT -5
THEY ARE THIS BUSINESS!
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 29, 2019 16:01:12 GMT -5
Imagine doing that gimmick in 2017.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 29, 2019 16:34:56 GMT -5
Proof that WWE aren't always wrong and we often as fans don't know best The rare exception rather than the rule. |
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Post by Shark on Mar 29, 2019 19:28:12 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? I am not a young fan. I am 33 and have been watching wrestling going on 24 years. I know who Liberace was, but I have no clue what he was. Meaning, I know the name, I know the face, but I don't know what he did that made him famous. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 19:48:12 GMT -5
The 2 people in the bottom left and guy in the top left of the second picture sum this gimmick up perfectly.
I loved the Sandow gimmick, this one sucked though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 20:44:43 GMT -5
Honestly, regardless of how badly Sandow turned out in TNA I'm still firmly under the opinion WWE wasted him. Not saying he should've been the top champion or anything but at the very least, people were super into Mizdow, what exactly would've been wrong with having him win the Andre - especially given all it actually accomplished was giving Big Show a quick achievement before he vanished for most of the year - or in having the payoff to the Miz feud happen on PPV? If nothing else you could've made a nice moment or two and then used him to get some other heel over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 20:50:40 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? Doubtful, but my brother George was a huge fan of Aron Rex for some reason. |
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Mar 29, 2019 20:52:20 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? I am not a young fan. I am 33 and have been watching wrestling going on 24 years. I know who Liberace was, but I have no clue what he was. Meaning, I know the name, I know the face, but I don't know what he did that made him famous. He was a professional pianist. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 29, 2019 22:33:28 GMT -5
came to TNA holding the mic like a brandy snifter still... and then shit all over the Damien Sandow gimmick and how he's not the intellectual savior of the masses and he's of average intelligence and... the company up north squandered him... and blah blah blah... I'm a person not a character... pretty much killed him.
Then deciding I'll show the WWE what they missed by nixing my Liberace gimmick pretty much ended his career.
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Post by jimmyjames on Mar 29, 2019 23:29:50 GMT -5
Aron Rex: To quote a Kids in the Hall episode; Bad 1950s gay stereotype
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 2:49:50 GMT -5
Proof that WWE aren't always wrong and we often as fans don't know best The rare exception rather than the rule. I feel the other way. Bryan and a few others are notable outliers. RVD, Ryder, Ryback (all the Rs) are just 3 I remember who WWE were all ahead of the curve on their limits and abilities. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 3:00:15 GMT -5
The rare exception rather than the rule. I feel the other way. Bryan and a few others are notable outliers. RVD, Ryder, Ryback (all the Rs) are just 3 I remember who WWE were all ahead of the curve on their limits and abilities. I'd really disagree on all of those... to an extent. In Ryback's case I feel like he was over enough and could be carried enough to justify a push... but what we didn't know is that he's also batshit insane. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 30, 2019 4:04:25 GMT -5
I remember those last few months in WWE where he would just show up with the Savior of the Masses gimmick, and would get massive ovations every time, and then job to the newly-debuted Baron Corbin.
WWE totally could have figured out someway to capitalize on him still being over a year after Mizdow was killed, and Macho Mandow had fizzled out.
That being said, I can't believe Aron Rex in TNA went as bad as it did. I mean, we've already talked about the shitty gimmick, but there's also the fact that Aron Rex was originally a staple of the Grand Dad championship picture. You know, that shitty division with a rounds system that was supposed to be built around technical wrestling with a dose of MMA. For some reason, they thought that the guy who got over with over the top gimmicks and doing comedic impressions was going to be the dude to usher in this experiment. Instead, we saw Eddie Edwards completely outwork Sandow in the first title match, only for Aron Rex to win the title despite the fact that his gut was hanging out of his trunks.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 30, 2019 8:55:44 GMT -5
Guy needs a tightly structured environment to work, like other developmental products like Johnny Impact and guys like Dolph Ziggler. If he'd gone to Lucha Underground he'd be a hot commodity now, but TNA gave him a say in his character and he crashed and burned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 9:41:53 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? He was WWE's only WrestleMania moment from the first WrestleMania for many years. Seriously; forget about Andre beating Big John Studd in the Bodyslam Challenge or Bundy squashing S.D. Jones; no, the WrestleMania Moment was Liberace dancing with the Rockettes. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 9:46:02 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? He was WWE's only WrestleMania moment from the first WrestleMania for many years. Seriously; forget about Andre beating Big John Studd in the Bodyslam Challenge or Bundy squashing S.D. Jones; no, the WrestleMania Moment was Liberace dancing with the Rockettes. Don’t forget him ringing his tiny bell! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 9:46:58 GMT -5
poor man's Maestro
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 30, 2019 11:01:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy manage to torpedo his reputation among wrestling fandom so quickly. There's someone else who did it faster, let me let the dogs out and get back to you on that. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 30, 2019 11:03:26 GMT -5
Another reason why he failed so bad? He couldn’t get good matches with Eddie Edwards and Trevor Lee.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 30, 2019 11:09:15 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? He was WWE's only WrestleMania moment from the first WrestleMania for many years. Seriously; forget about Andre beating Big John Studd in the Bodyslam Challenge or Bundy squashing S.D. Jones; no, the WrestleMania Moment was Liberace dancing with the Rockettes. Then you had that Michael Douglas movie on HBO...but that was years old by then still. |
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