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Aron Rex
Mar 30, 2019 18:21:55 GMT -5
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 30, 2019 18:21:55 GMT -5
I am not a young fan. I am 33 and have been watching wrestling going on 24 years. I know who Liberace was, but I have no clue what he was. Meaning, I know the name, I know the face, but I don't know what he did that made him famous. He was a professional pianist. Parents took me to the Liberace museum in Vegas when I was a kid. Cool place. Then I’m pretty sure I never heard the name again until this gimmick.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Mar 30, 2019 21:10:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy manage to torpedo his reputation among wrestling fandom so quickly. Something something consensual penis.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 30, 2019 21:46:32 GMT -5
Also, why crib Liberace? I mean, do most younger fans even know who Liberace even was? Doubtful, but my brother George was a huge fan of Aron Rex for some reason. I can't believe this took me so long to get.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 22:14:19 GMT -5
Doubtful, but my brother George was a huge fan of Aron Rex for some reason. I can't believe this took me so long to get. I'm just glad someone finally did
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Post by RI Richmark on Mar 30, 2019 22:18:37 GMT -5
Career killing decision. The best part was when he started in tna and he claimed that he wanted to wrestle not be a character not an entertainer. But he sucks so much that he couldn’t do it so he came up with the gimmick. A similar thing happened in WWE. After he lost to the Miz and couldn't be Mizdow anymore he cut a promo saying how he wasn't going to copy anyone else and he was going to be his own man now. Two weeks later he started appearing as Macho Mandow.
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Post by nate5054 on Mar 31, 2019 21:52:00 GMT -5
I am not a young fan. I am 33 and have been watching wrestling going on 24 years. I know who Liberace was, but I have no clue what he was. Meaning, I know the name, I know the face, but I don't know what he did that made him famous. He was a professional pianist. Liberace also had his lover get plastic surgery so he (his lover...pronouns pal) could look more like Liberace...which is seriously one of the creepiest things I've ever heard.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 1, 2019 12:01:44 GMT -5
He’s the biggest bust of the decade, either him or Anderson. I think Anderson/Kennedy was a bigger bust because he went from a cant-miss prospect and future main eventers to a joke never-was who was too much of a mess for even TNA. Sandow didn't have as big a ladder to fall off of.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 0:35:21 GMT -5
came to TNA holding the mic like a brandy snifter still... and then shit all over the Damien Sandow gimmick and how he's not the intellectual savior of the masses and he's of average intelligence and... the company up north squandered him... and blah blah blah... I'm a person not a character... pretty much killed him. While he was doing this he was also using the Intellectual Saviour of the Masses gimmick on the indies.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 17:05:57 GMT -5
Career killing decision. The best part was when he started in tna and he claimed that he wanted to wrestle not be a character not an entertainer. But he sucks so much that he couldn’t do it so he came up with the gimmick. A similar thing happened in WWE. After he lost to the Miz and couldn't be Mizdow anymore he cut a promo saying how he wasn't going to copy anyone else and he was going to be his own man now. Two weeks later he started appearing as Macho Mandow. Now in fairness, nobody could get over with that gimmick. *spies Black Machismo poster in the corner of the room* I said NOBODY could get over with that gimmick. I don't know what's worse about the Aron Rex gimmick, that he thought it was a good idea or that he convinced enough people to get it on TV.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 17:12:48 GMT -5
I don't know what's worse about the Aron Rex gimmick, that he thought it was a good idea or that he convinced enough people to get it on TV. Let's be honest, as sad and pathetic as the gimmick was, it isn't even in the bottom 25% of things TNA have deemed TV-worthy.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 17:20:56 GMT -5
I don't know what's worse about the Aron Rex gimmick, that he thought it was a good idea or that he convinced enough people to get it on TV. Let's be honest, as sad and pathetic as the gimmick was, it isn't even in the bottom 25% of things TNA have deemed TV-worthy. I don't give a shit about it being sad and pathetic, this is professional wrestling. Sad and pathetic is the retirement plan. It's the grossly homophobic aspect that baffles me. It being insanely dated is only a side issue.
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Aron Rex
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 17:47:02 GMT -5
Let's be honest, as sad and pathetic as the gimmick was, it isn't even in the bottom 25% of things TNA have deemed TV-worthy. I don't give a shit about it being sad and pathetic, this is professional wrestling. Sad and pathetic is the retirement plan. It's the grossly homophobic aspect that baffles me. It being insanely dated is only a side issue. My comment still stands. TNA have delivered so much awful, indefensible stuff over the years that them putting a grossly offensive gay stereotype on TV is pretty much par for the course.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 17:52:59 GMT -5
I don't give a shit about it being sad and pathetic, this is professional wrestling. Sad and pathetic is the retirement plan. It's the grossly homophobic aspect that baffles me. It being insanely dated is only a side issue. My comment still stands. TNA have delivered so much awful, indefensible stuff over the years that them putting a grossly offensive gay stereotype on TV is pretty much par for the course. That, sir, is a good point. In which case my bigger criticism is of Rex, because TNA very obviously had the capacity to let this happen...
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 18:08:13 GMT -5
My comment still stands. TNA have delivered so much awful, indefensible stuff over the years that them putting a grossly offensive gay stereotype on TV is pretty much par for the course. That, sir, is a good point. In which case my bigger criticism is of Rex, because TNA very obviously had the capacity to let this happen... Absolutely. The fact that he had the gimmick in mind as far back as his FCW days and somehow didn't come to the conclusion in the interim that it really wasn't a good idea says a lot about him. Then again, when he was booking in OVW he wrote a storyline where Beth Phoenix and Shelly Martinez were his devoted sex slaves. I think it's safe to say he was a fan of Vince Russo's booking.
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Aron Rex
Apr 3, 2019 18:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 18:16:13 GMT -5
That, sir, is a good point. In which case my bigger criticism is of Rex, because TNA very obviously had the capacity to let this happen... Absolutely. The fact that he had the gimmick in mind as far back as his FCW days and somehow didn't come to the conclusion in the interim that it really wasn't a good idea says a lot about him. Then again, when he was booking in OVW he wrote a storyline where Beth Phoenix and Shelly Martinez were his devoted sex slaves. I think it's safe to say he was a fan of Vince Russo's booking. Didn't Paul Heyman book the Maharaja of the Menage Trois gimmick though?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 18:22:36 GMT -5
Absolutely. The fact that he had the gimmick in mind as far back as his FCW days and somehow didn't come to the conclusion in the interim that it really wasn't a good idea says a lot about him. Then again, when he was booking in OVW he wrote a storyline where Beth Phoenix and Shelly Martinez were his devoted sex slaves. I think it's safe to say he was a fan of Vince Russo's booking. Didn't Paul Heyman book the Maharaja of the Menage Trois gimmick though? Heyman was booker at the time, but he more or less gave Rex free reign over his own storylines... if he is to be believed, of course.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 18:24:13 GMT -5
Didn't Paul Heyman book the Maharaja of the Menage Trois gimmick though? Heyman was booker at the time, but he more or less gave Rex free reign over his own storylines... if he is to be believed, of course. That gimmick really sounds like something you would suggest as a joke not expecting ANYONE to let you do it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 18:30:45 GMT -5
Heyman was booker at the time, but he more or less gave Rex free reign over his own storylines... if he is to be believed, of course. That gimmick really sounds like something you would suggest as a joke not expecting ANYONE to let you do it. So really not all that different from the circumstances of the Liberace gimmick, then? Also, his description of his time in OVW was "I was the smartest man in OVW. I could've booked myself to win the championship, but instead I booked a threesome with Beth and Shelly."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 19:01:55 GMT -5
That gimmick really sounds like something you would suggest as a joke not expecting ANYONE to let you do it. So really not all that different from the circumstances of the Liberace gimmick, then? Also, his description of his time in OVW was "I was the smartest man in OVW. I could've booked myself to win the championship, but instead I booked a threesome with Beth and Shelly." The orgasm was fake, you f***ing mark!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 21:00:20 GMT -5
He had a rip-off Lanny Poffo gimmick. Then he got too big for his boots and thought he could escape it... the fact is, he couldn’t.
The “Intellectual Savior” gimmick was what got him to the party. Blue robe, pink trunks, “SILENCE!” etc. That was over. That could have got him to the main event... but whoever’s genius idea it was to have him ditch all of that, come out in a black t-shirt and black trunks and act all SRS and AGGRESSIVE~! is a goddamned moron cause it single handedly killed his career.
Yeah the Mizdow thing got him over again. And he probably should have won the Andre Battle Royal instead of Big Show that year... but where do you go from there? He couldn’t go back to being the Intellectual Savior cause he’s been playing a halfwit for the past year or so, copying Miz and making himself look stupid. This was a guy who was supposed to be smarter than all of us. So why was he doing (what would be, in his mind) the lowest form of entertainment? On top of that, what was he gonna do when he couldn’t copy Miz any more? They literally hadn’t got a clue. He had this terrible segment on Raw with Curtis Axel where he mocked him and repeated him like a 5 year old. It was AWFUL but surprisingly nobody mentions it anymore... then he delivered the worst Macho Man impersonation I ever seen in my life. The less said about the “MetaPowers” the better.
His Liberace/stereotypical gay gimmick in TNA was disgraceful lol. I felt so embarrassed watching it. It was cringeworthy stuff. It just goes to show not everyone would succeed if they gave them complete creative control... he found his niche with the Intellectual Savior gimmick and should have never left it.
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