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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 29, 2019 14:11:16 GMT -5
Interesting. Seems crazy to think NJPW could have possibly been 3rd on his list between these 3 brands but AEW is right for him and the door is not closed on WWE if he ever really wanted to go later
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Post by TGM on Mar 29, 2019 15:15:43 GMT -5
Imagine the wrestling world today had Kenny Omega stayed with Deep South and WWE. He'd be part of the Lost Generation.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 29, 2019 16:01:27 GMT -5
Is there any footage of Omega in mma? Was he any good? Cause I never heard him having any background at wrestling or bjj.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 16:04:10 GMT -5
I can’t even begin to imagine how hard the WWE would have bungled Kenny.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 29, 2019 16:08:09 GMT -5
Imagine the wrestling world today had Kenny Omega stayed with Deep South and WWE. He'd be part of the Lost Generation. I can totally see him being among the people in a thread about the FCW goobers that never reached TV like Aiden Frost and Donny Marlow
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 29, 2019 16:10:02 GMT -5
Interesting. Seems crazy to think NJPW could have possibly been 3rd on his list between these 3 brands but AEW is right for him and the door is not closed on WWE if he ever really wanted to go later
I think it was an interview with Garret and Meltzer, but I can’t remember, when Kenny blatantly said when he was negotiating he was surprised that after talking to everyone, he really felt the choice was either WWE or AEW. Not due to cash, just from a perspective of what next step excites him more.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 29, 2019 17:34:20 GMT -5
He has been said it was between AEW and WWE and he took the WWE offer serious, I have gotten the impression he felt slighted by his negotiations with NJPW.
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Post by corndog on Mar 29, 2019 17:35:42 GMT -5
Interesting. Seems crazy to think NJPW could have possibly been 3rd on his list between these 3 brands but AEW is right for him and the door is not closed on WWE if he ever really wanted to go later
I think it was an interview with Garret and Meltzer, but I can’t remember, when Kenny blatantly said when he was negotiating he was surprised that after talking to everyone, he really felt the choice was either WWE or AEW. Not due to cash, just from a perspective of what next step excites him more. I think he liked the challenge of going to WWE, but chose AEW because it was the most comfortable choice and it was a question he answered with Meltzer. Also, if ever possible, his AEW contact has a clause to allow him to wrestle for New Japan.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Mar 29, 2019 17:39:57 GMT -5
He has been said it was between AEW and WWE and he took the WWE offer serious, I have gotten the impression he felt slighted by his negotiations with NJPW. Yeah, from what little he's said about it, it does sound like NJPW stiffed him and he felt slighted. Which I can't entirely fault NJPW, they're not dumb, they have to know it was a very real possibility Omega was using them as so many fans have claimed The Elite and him were to piggy back off of them with AEW.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 29, 2019 18:14:21 GMT -5
Interesting. Seems crazy to think NJPW could have possibly been 3rd on his list between these 3 brands but AEW is right for him and the door is not closed on WWE if he ever really wanted to go later
I think it was an interview with Garret and Meltzer, but I can’t remember, when Kenny blatantly said when he was negotiating he was surprised that after talking to everyone, he really felt the choice was either WWE or AEW. Not due to cash, just from a perspective of what next step excites him more. The challenge of WWE I assume was enticing and I think they (WWE) would have treated him just like they did AJ but you can't say that for sure. At the end of the day, AEW is also a challenge as well and with creative freedom it allows him to keep his motivation and gears turning
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 29, 2019 18:17:46 GMT -5
I think it was an interview with Garret and Meltzer, but I can’t remember, when Kenny blatantly said when he was negotiating he was surprised that after talking to everyone, he really felt the choice was either WWE or AEW. Not due to cash, just from a perspective of what next step excites him more. The challenge of WWE I assume was enticing and I think they (WWE) would have treated him just like they did AJ but you can't say that for sure. At the end of the day, AEW is also a challenge as well and with creative freedom it allows him to keep his motivation and gears turning I definitely get the vibe that Kenny is just as invested in growing wrestling as a whole as he is growing his own career/legacy so AEW just made all the sense in the world. Do you want to be part of the machine, or part of the team that changed how the machine worked?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 29, 2019 18:20:04 GMT -5
The challenge of WWE I assume was enticing and I think they (WWE) would have treated him just like they did AJ but you can't say that for sure. At the end of the day, AEW is also a challenge as well and with creative freedom it allows him to keep his motivation and gears turning I definitely get the vibe that Kenny is just as invested in growing wrestling as a whole as he is growing his own career/legacy so AEW just made all the sense in the world. Do you want to be part of the machine, or part of the team that changed how the machine worked? And at the end of the day if AEW doesn't work he could always go back to Japan or even WWE if opportunity still there
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 18:20:45 GMT -5
Imagine the wrestling world today had Kenny Omega stayed with Deep South and WWE. He'd be part of the Lost Generation. I can totally see him being among the people in a thread about the FCW goobers that never reached TV like Aiden Frost and Donny Marlow To be fair to Donny Marlow, he did make it to WWE TV, and is now a multi-time (and current) tag team champion in NJPW. But I definitely could see him being lost in the FCW shuffle. It’s insane how badly the developmental system was handled during those years.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 29, 2019 18:24:36 GMT -5
I can totally see him being among the people in a thread about the FCW goobers that never reached TV like Aiden Frost and Donny Marlow To be fair to Donny Marlow, he did make it to WWE TV, and is now a multi-time (and current) tag team champion in NJPW. But I definitely could see him being lost in the FCW shuffle. It’s insane how badly the developmental system was handled during those years. It's insane it took someone so long to fix that shit up
Everybody was the same and you just weren't getting good production from there. HHH actually deciding to pitch for a feeder system was a Godsend because no way WWE was going to be able to replenish talent
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 29, 2019 18:59:00 GMT -5
Imagine the wrestling world today had Kenny Omega stayed with Deep South and WWE. He'd be part of the Lost Generation. I can totally see him being among the people in a thread about the FCW goobers that never reached TV like Aiden Frost and Donny Marlow Aiden Frost sounds like a Mortal Kombat character who would have been killed off after one game in the series.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 29, 2019 21:56:41 GMT -5
To be fair to Donny Marlow, he did make it to WWE TV, and is now a multi-time (and current) tag team champion in NJPW. But I definitely could see him being lost in the FCW shuffle. It’s insane how badly the developmental system was handled during those years. It's insane it took someone so long to fix that shit up Everybody was the same and you just weren't getting good production from there. HHH actually deciding to pitch for a feeder system was a Godsend because no way WWE was going to be able to replenish talent
And the DUIs... So many goddamn DUIs...
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 30, 2019 2:40:15 GMT -5
I can totally see him being among the people in a thread about the FCW goobers that never reached TV like Aiden Frost and Donny Marlow Aiden Frost sounds like a Mortal Kombat character who would have been killed off after one game in the series. He looked like Hade Vansen with a rounder head, and he had Frankie Kazarian's "Ass Trumpets" theme for some reason.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Mar 30, 2019 5:57:29 GMT -5
If AEW doesn’t last I can totally see Omega and the Bucks cashing in on the WWE. They’ll get much more famous and they can run their occasional super indie shows again once they’re done there and want to work much less at that point. It wouldn’t be a bad move for their own long term interests.
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 30, 2019 10:16:31 GMT -5
I don't get why WWE moved developmental down to Tampa in the first place. All those DUIs to me are a result of that. Tampa is a really wild town with Ybor City and countless strip joints. This stuff didn't happen as often with OVW, and if someone did get into some trouble I think Cornette smoothed it over with the authorities. The move was more about WWE execs wanting to hang out in Florida when they visited.
In all honesty I think the main reason guys like Omega and the Bucks are doing AEW is that they don't want to actually be pro wrestlers. By that I mean they don't want to actually be on the road with a full schedule of dates. They would rather take Tony Khan's money to do very little. It's nice work if you can get it, but it is also taking the 2018 Wrestler of the Year and the Tag Team of the Year off the board for months at a time.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 30, 2019 11:03:31 GMT -5
I don't get why WWE moved developmental down to Tampa in the first place. All those DUIs to me are a result of that. Tampa is a really wild town with Ybor City and countless strip joints. This stuff didn't happen as often with OVW, and if someone did get into some trouble I think Cornette smoothed it over with the authorities. The move was more about WWE execs wanting to hang out in Florida when they visited. That kinda sounds like you’d prefer if WWE could just grease some palms and DUI’s would go away. So to be a pro wrestler, in your eyes, it only counts if you’re willing to work 250+ dates a year? Are you a McMahon? Because that’s some high level pro-WWE propaganda
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