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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Mar 30, 2019 21:19:29 GMT -5
WWE have a video on their YouTube channel of Owen Hart Vs Goldust Vs HHH from 23rd June 1997 RAW, which they say is the first Triple Threat match in WWE.
However, I've just been watching the 5th February 1996 RAW and during the main event (Bret defending the WWF Championship against Undertaker) McMahon and Lawler talk about some of the unorthodox changes that new interim President Roddy Piper is implementing, including a "Triple Threat" and how this is causing the WWF marketing team trouble. Later in the match, Diesel gets involved and beats both Bret and Undertaker with the announcers asking "Is this what Piper means by a Triple Threat"?
Were WWF looking at booking a Bret Vs Diesel Vs Undertaker match? Where did the concept come from? Did they run any triple threats at house shows around this time? It just seems funny they should mention the concept on air and then not follow through for over a year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 21:22:10 GMT -5
Well, the concept probably came from ECW.
As to the Roddy Piper Triple Threat thing, I have no idea.
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Post by fg on Mar 30, 2019 22:31:05 GMT -5
WWE have a video on their YouTube channel of Owen Hart Vs Goldust Vs HHH from 23rd June 1997 RAW, which they say is the first Triple Threat match in WWE. However, I've just been watching the 5th February 1996 RAW and during the main event (Bret defending the WWF Championship against Undertaker) McMahon and Lawler talk about some of the unorthodox changes that new interim President Roddy Piper is implementing, including a "Triple Threat" and how this is causing the WWF marketing team trouble. Later in the match, Diesel gets involved and beats both Bret and Undertaker with the announcers asking "Is this what Piper means by a Triple Threat"? Were WWF looking at booking a Bret Vs Diesel Vs Undertaker match? Where did the concept come from? Did they run any triple threats at house shows around this time? It just seems funny they should mention the concept on air and then not follow through for over a year. They were. They originally called it a Triangle match for the title. I remember going to a House Show card that originally advertised a Triangle match. The rules were...interesting. Bret was going to face Undertaker and the winner of that match was going to face Kevin. If Kevin won, he was going to face Bret. The first wrestler to beat two wrestlers (perhaps in a row) would be the winner and the Triangle match would go on no matter how long it takes. Thank goodness they changed the rules. The match never happened as Kevin got hurt and the match was changed to Bret vs. Taker for the title. (Insert Kevin Nash wont do the job here joke.)
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 31, 2019 7:17:58 GMT -5
Oh this is f***ing weird, I came on here to ask the question of who remembers what the first Triple Threat tag team match was? I know there was a fatal four way at SS 96 but TT matches only came into play in 1997. What was the first and what was the first significant one?
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Post by Gummydavidson on Mar 31, 2019 15:34:15 GMT -5
There's a few rough Triple Threat matches in 1997. Triple H Vs Savio Vega Vs The Patriot is one of the worst Raw main events ever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 15:36:54 GMT -5
When was ECW's first Triangle match? Because I remember WCW doing them in around '95.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Mar 31, 2019 15:38:54 GMT -5
When was ECW's first Triangle match? Because I remember WCW doing them in around '95. I'm sure it was before this, but the Night the Line Was Crossed in Feb of 94 had Shane Douglas vs. Sabu vs. Terry Funk as the main event.
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Mar 31, 2019 19:52:27 GMT -5
WWE have a video on their YouTube channel of Owen Hart Vs Goldust Vs HHH from 23rd June 1997 RAW, which they say is the first Triple Threat match in WWE. However, I've just been watching the 5th February 1996 RAW and during the main event (Bret defending the WWF Championship against Undertaker) McMahon and Lawler talk about some of the unorthodox changes that new interim President Roddy Piper is implementing, including a "Triple Threat" and how this is causing the WWF marketing team trouble. Later in the match, Diesel gets involved and beats both Bret and Undertaker with the announcers asking "Is this what Piper means by a Triple Threat"? Were WWF looking at booking a Bret Vs Diesel Vs Undertaker match? Where did the concept come from? Did they run any triple threats at house shows around this time? It just seems funny they should mention the concept on air and then not follow through for over a year. They were. They originally called it a Triangle match for the title. I remember going to a House Show card that originally advertised a Triangle match. The rules were...interesting. Bret was going to face Undertaker and the winner of that match was going to face Kevin. If Kevin won, he was going to face Bret. The first wrestler to beat two wrestlers (perhaps in a row) would be the winner and the Triangle match would go on no matter how long it takes. Thank goodness they changed the rules. The match never happened as Kevin got hurt and the match was changed to Bret vs. Taker for the title. (Insert Kevin Nash wont do the job here joke.) Fantastic, that's exactly what I hoped to find out - FAN never fails! How convoluted is that match? It's like a slight progression from the Wrestlemania X set-up, which I recall had Crush as part of the mix depending on the result of a coin-toss. Funny that they were persisting with this when they could have just used what was to become the Triple Threat rules a year later.
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Post by fg on Mar 31, 2019 20:23:21 GMT -5
They were. They originally called it a Triangle match for the title. I remember going to a House Show card that originally advertised a Triangle match. The rules were...interesting. Bret was going to face Undertaker and the winner of that match was going to face Kevin. If Kevin won, he was going to face Bret. The first wrestler to beat two wrestlers (perhaps in a row) would be the winner and the Triangle match would go on no matter how long it takes. Thank goodness they changed the rules. The match never happened as Kevin got hurt and the match was changed to Bret vs. Taker for the title. (Insert Kevin Nash wont do the job here joke.) Fantastic, that's exactly what I hoped to find out - FAN never fails! How convoluted is that match? It's like a slight progression from the Wrestlemania X set-up, which I recall had Crush as part of the mix depending on the result of a coin-toss. Funny that they were persisting with this when they could have just used what was to become the Triple Threat rules a year later. I agree. Thank goodness they changed the rules to a much simpler format.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 1, 2019 7:32:26 GMT -5
Oh this is f***ing weird, I came on here to ask the question of who remembers what the first Triple Threat tag team match was? I know there was a fatal four way at SS 96 but TT matches only came into play in 1997. What was the first and what was the first significant one? Don't you all shout out at once now
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Apr 1, 2019 14:24:55 GMT -5
Oh this is f***ing weird, I came on here to ask the question of who remembers what the first Triple Threat tag team match was? I know there was a fatal four way at SS 96 but TT matches only came into play in 1997. What was the first and what was the first significant one? Don't you all shout out at once now The first I'm aware of was a Raw from Halifax in 1997, with The Godwinns, Headbangers and New Blackjacks. The first I can remember that mattered was Outlaws, LOD and DOA in May 98, because one of the Outlaws pinned the other to win, leading to a rule in future matches that you can't pin your partner to win.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Apr 1, 2019 14:42:04 GMT -5
They were. They originally called it a Triangle match for the title. I remember going to a House Show card that originally advertised a Triangle match. The rules were...interesting. Bret was going to face Undertaker and the winner of that match was going to face Kevin. If Kevin won, he was going to face Bret. The first wrestler to beat two wrestlers (perhaps in a row) would be the winner and the Triangle match would go on no matter how long it takes. Thank goodness they changed the rules. The match never happened as Kevin got hurt and the match was changed to Bret vs. Taker for the title. (Insert Kevin Nash wont do the job here joke.) Fantastic, that's exactly what I hoped to find out - FAN never fails! How convoluted is that match? It's like a slight progression from the Wrestlemania X set-up, which I recall had Crush as part of the mix depending on the result of a coin-toss. Funny that they were persisting with this when they could have just used what was to become the Triple Threat rules a year later. Basically, in this version, if I'm understanding correctly, is the three would wrestle round robin style with winner advancing each time, until someone beat both opponents. So Bret beats Taker, but then Diesel beats Bret, Diesel and Taker have to wrestle. Diesel wins, it's over. Taker wins, he and Bret wrestle again, and so on. The WrestleMania X thing was slightly different, in that Luger and Bret were both going to get a title shot that night. To keep it fair for Yokozuna and his first opponent, since the winner had to wrestle twice, the man in the main event would face an opponent of equal standing, so that both guys in the main event will have had competitive matches earlier in the night.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 2, 2019 4:12:28 GMT -5
When was ECW's first Triangle match? Because I remember WCW doing them in around '95. I'm sure it was before this, but the Night the Line Was Crossed in Feb of 94 had Shane Douglas vs. Sabu vs. Terry Funk as the main event. The ECW match is what put triple threat matches and in many ways ECW itself on the map and was a huge deal when it happened but I read that there were others before it in one of the southern territories in the 80's or early 90's. The first WCW one was at Fall Brawl 94 and had some weird rule where they had to tag in and out. It was like WWF and WCW watched the ECW match and tried as hard as possible to make it suck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 4:55:44 GMT -5
I'm sure it was before this, but the Night the Line Was Crossed in Feb of 94 had Shane Douglas vs. Sabu vs. Terry Funk as the main event. The ECW match is what put triple threat matches and in many ways ECW itself on the map and was a huge deal when it happened but I read that there were others before it in one of the southern territories in the 80's or early 90's. The first WCW one was at Fall Brawl 94 and had some weird rule where they had to tag in and out. It was like WWF and WCW watched the ECW match and tried as hard as possible to make it suck. The WCW one was Vader vs Bossman and the winner faced Sting
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Apr 2, 2019 15:49:05 GMT -5
The ECW match is what put triple threat matches and in many ways ECW itself on the map and was a huge deal when it happened but I read that there were others before it in one of the southern territories in the 80's or early 90's. The first WCW one was at Fall Brawl 94 and had some weird rule where they had to tag in and out. It was like WWF and WCW watched the ECW match and tried as hard as possible to make it suck. The WCW one was Vader vs Bossman and the winner faced Sting Yeah. They did do one with Flair, Luger and Sting at Starrcade 1995 where they had to tag in and out. The Fall Brawl one sounds like what WWF was planning to do with Undertaker, Bret and Diesel.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 4, 2019 0:30:05 GMT -5
The ECW match is what put triple threat matches and in many ways ECW itself on the map and was a huge deal when it happened but I read that there were others before it in one of the southern territories in the 80's or early 90's. The first WCW one was at Fall Brawl 94 and had some weird rule where they had to tag in and out. It was like WWF and WCW watched the ECW match and tried as hard as possible to make it suck. The WCW one was Vader vs Bossman and the winner faced Sting Ahhh there you go. I knew it was some over planned B.S. Think of how much cooler a regular 3 way match would have been back then. WCW would have looked like trend setters to the main stream fans.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 4, 2019 7:21:08 GMT -5
Im quite glad there was no multiple people matches in the 80's and early 90's as it would have ruined some iconic fueds, but its cool to think about what kind of matches we could have had.
Did any of the big 80's alumni ever compete in many Triple Threats? Like Savage, Hogan? I am pretty damn sure Warrior didnt.
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 4, 2019 7:50:25 GMT -5
Well, the concept probably came from ECW. As to the Roddy Piper Triple Threat thing, I have no idea. I think Smoky Mountain has ECW beat. The '93 Bluegrass Brawl had Arn Anderson & The Rock N' Roll Express vs. The Stud Stable vs. The Heavenly Bodies & Bobby Eaton in a Street Fight.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 6, 2019 8:51:39 GMT -5
God, I love wrestling history threads.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Apr 6, 2019 14:53:24 GMT -5
Im quite glad there was no multiple people matches in the 80's and early 90's as it would have ruined some iconic fueds, but its cool to think about what kind of matches we could have had. Did any of the big 80's alumni ever compete in many Triple Threats? Like Savage, Hogan? I am pretty damn sure Warrior didnt. I know Hogan was in some four corners matches. I'm not sure about Triple Threats, but I feel like I'm forgetting some major match. Macho, I have no idea.
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