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Post by cjh on Apr 9, 2019 19:13:39 GMT -5
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 9, 2019 19:15:18 GMT -5
Is fightful trustworthy? If so I find this funny as hell and hey at least that explains the ME ending. Feel kinda bad for the girls it was due to a ref f*** up now though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 19:19:14 GMT -5
If anything I feel like that would've made it look even worse if he had. The only thing more awkward than an out-of-nowhere roll-up finish would be a prolonged one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 19:24:57 GMT -5
If anything I feel like that would've made it look even worse if he had. The only thing more awkward than an out-of-nowhere roll-up finish would be a prolonged one. It shouldn’t have even been a roll up. It should have been a tap out.
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Post by RedSmile on Apr 9, 2019 19:53:42 GMT -5
This is what happens when you don't have Charles-bah gawd-Robinson callin' it down the middle.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Apr 9, 2019 20:02:05 GMT -5
This is what happens when you don't have Charles-bah gawd-Robinson callin' it down the middle. We all know Li'l Naitch would rig it for Charlotte.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 9, 2019 20:10:53 GMT -5
If true, it's funny to see how different promotions handle situations like this; makes me think of KUSHIDA pinning Kenny Omega a few years ago, or Will Ospreay pinning Bad Luck Fale this year, where the loser clearly had a shoulder up but the idea was "the finish is the finish".
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 9, 2019 20:11:40 GMT -5
Is fightful trustworthy? If so I find this funny as hell and hey at least that explains the ME ending. Feel kinda bad for the girls it was due to a ref f*** up now though. I’ve never heard of them getting a fine before, but it’s been at least 10 years now that the guidelines for refs have been to call it like a shoot. It’s up to the performers to not f*** up finishes, refs aren’t supposed to bail them out anymore.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 9, 2019 20:14:32 GMT -5
Hmm. It seems harsh to fine a guy for someone else's mistake, but that was the main event of Wrestlemania, and the ending was damaged by an unnoticed/uncorrected mistake. Still, I kind of doubt this is true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 20:55:57 GMT -5
Seems just as likely that we're being worked and the "fine" is just to sell the controversy. Granted, they are selling it really well. I half expected the announcers to just ignore the fact that Ronda's shoulders weren't down, but the fact that they immediately called it out made me wonder if we were being worked.
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Post by Larryhausen on Apr 9, 2019 20:59:13 GMT -5
Hmm. It seems harsh to fine a guy for someone else's mistake, but that was the main event of Wrestlemania, and the ending was damaged by an unnoticed/uncorrected mistake. Still, I kind of doubt this is true. I think what the story is, is that wasn't supposed to be the finish. Zapata counted the three because Ronda didn't kick out, and Ronda didn't kick out because her shoulders weren't down and it wasn't supposed to be a 3 anyway. At least that's the way I'm seeing things.
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Post by cjh on Apr 9, 2019 21:02:12 GMT -5
Seems just as likely that we're being worked and the "fine" is just to sell the controversy. Granted, they are selling it really well. I half expected the announcers to just ignore the fact that Ronda's shoulders weren't down, but the fact that they immediately called it out made me wonder if we were being worked. I didn't see Raw, but I heard that the announcers made no mention of it during Becky's segment. I think what the story is, is that wasn't supposed to be the finish. Zapata counted the three because Ronda didn't kick out, and Ronda didn't kick out because her shoulders weren't down and it wasn't supposed to be a 3 anyway. At least that's the way I'm seeing things. It was the planned finish, but Ronda's shoulders were supposed to be down. The ref was fined because he was expected to notice that Ronda's shoulders were up and not make a count until her shoulders were on the mat.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Apr 9, 2019 21:19:42 GMT -5
Wait, that ending was a shoot?
Oh my f***ing lord, that's unfortunate.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 9, 2019 21:26:15 GMT -5
Wait, that ending was a shoot? Oh my f***ing lord, that's unfortunate. Worth noting that they’ve ignored the pin botch in all recaps of the match and haven’t made it into an angle.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 9, 2019 21:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 22:04:56 GMT -5
Was it the same ref that “f***ed on” Ted DiBiase?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 9, 2019 22:23:53 GMT -5
There's like 8 stories all saying different things here.
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Post by cjh on Apr 9, 2019 22:35:53 GMT -5
There's like 8 stories all saying different things here. Fightful and Dave Meltzer both said the same thing (Ronda's shoulders were not supposed to be up when she was being pinned). The announcers and Becky not talking about it on Raw backs that up.
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Post by BigAl on Apr 9, 2019 22:48:15 GMT -5
Did Rhonda pulled a Hogan starrcade97 ?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 9, 2019 23:11:41 GMT -5
Is fightful trustworthy? If so I find this funny as hell and hey at least that explains the ME ending. Feel kinda bad for the girls it was due to a ref f*** up now though. I’ve never heard of them getting a fine before, but it’s been at least 10 years now that the guidelines for refs have been to call it like a shoot. It’s up to the performers to not f*** up finishes, refs aren’t supposed to bail them out anymore. that doesn't really apply here when the Ref is the one that f***ed up. Ronda's shoulder was blatantly up when he started counting. and I remember hearing they scrapped that idea pretty quickly.
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