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Post by PsychoGoatee on Apr 10, 2019 9:42:53 GMT -5
WrestleMania was great, props to WWE for that, and some nice moments this week on Raw and SD.
This segment though, what on Earth are they doing. Just appalling. It's like a segment from some of the worst booked days of WWE, it's madness. I didn't like it when Alexa beat Becky clean years ago etc either by the way. Why would the brave Bayley get jobbed out quickly to the female Miz?
I like Alexa and Miz, just saying, this kind of booking doesn't help anybody. It should've been a lot more effort and time than that for Alexa to be able to beat Bayley. And personally I think Bayley is underutilized, push her! She rules! This was a crime, and I am appalled.
What do you even do with this? Where does Bayley go from here? At the height of her kayfabe power Bayley could beat Becky, and certainly Alexa, my immersion here is in jeopardy. This match may have destroyed kayfabe, and killed rock and roll. Anyways, I didn't like it.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Apr 10, 2019 9:49:46 GMT -5
Bayley’s the biggest case of someone from NXT not transitioning to the main roster well. Promos and how you carry yourself go way farther to Vince and a large crowd as opposed to “look at all these moves I can do really well”.
That being said though, people still like her and want to like her and there’s no reason for her to be jobbed out like she was to anyone.
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Post by realist on Apr 10, 2019 9:50:27 GMT -5
Alexa is blonde and attractive. She will always be in the upper echelon of the WWE women's division. Bayley means nothing to the WWE creative, so there you go. Don't just take my word for it. Look at everything she has done since coming up, which is getting squashed by Alexa in an embarrassing feud and being involved in a never ending storyline with Sasha Banks that sometimes involved the Riott Squad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 9:52:40 GMT -5
Could this be related to the thread about Sasha cancelling an appearance and being cryptic online? Maybe there's some backstage stuff going on with Sasha and Bayley, or just one of them, and Bayley was sent out to eat a loss on #RawAfterMania in relation to it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 10:16:18 GMT -5
Vader Bliss. I was hoping that after her concussion they would scale back her in ring role permanently. Her work just isn't as good as most of the other NXT callups, or Natalya.
GM or similar suited her perfectly.
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Post by Rican on Apr 10, 2019 10:19:00 GMT -5
I love Bayley and haven't lost hope for her on the main roster yet. Look at Becky, she went from the pre-show battle royal to main eventing in a year. I think Bayley has a few things going for her. She was so loved on NXT that I don't think she'll ever completely fall out of favor with die hard fans, and when they do have her look good its well received. She looked great in the women's rumble this year and the crowd was into it. I think it just takes one hot feud or match to start turning it around. I also think her moving merchandise and being great with the PR, make a wish stuff keeps her in good favor with the office and they'll reward it eventually.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 10, 2019 10:19:46 GMT -5
Alexa is blonde and attractive. She will always be in the upper echelon of the WWE women's division. Bayley means nothing to the WWE creative, so there you go. Don't just take my word for it. Look at everything she has done since coming up, which is getting squashed by Alexa in an embarrassing feud and being involved in a never ending storyline with Sasha Banks that sometimes involved the Riott Squad. In fairness Bayley did go in and out of WM 33 as Raw Women’s Champion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 10:25:49 GMT -5
Anytime Bayley interacts with Alexa on the main roster it's an abomination.
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Post by gl83 on Apr 10, 2019 10:28:42 GMT -5
Anytime Bayley interacts with Alexa on the main roster it's an abomination. Only exception was this year's Royal Rumble where she Buckle Bomb'd Alexa and eliminated her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 10:44:19 GMT -5
Alexa is blonde and attractive. She will always be in the upper echelon of the WWE women's division. Bayley means nothing to the WWE creative, so there you go. Don't just take my word for it. Look at everything she has done since coming up, which is getting squashed by Alexa in an embarrassing feud and being involved in a never ending storyline with Sasha Banks that sometimes involved the Riott Squad. If that were the case, wouldn’t we be seeing Charlotte as the duel champion? Blonde’s in WWE aren’t exactly these overpushed unathletic people anymore who are only pushed for looks. Look at Charlotte and Lacey. Ignoring the Rumble botches, she had some incredible matches down in NXT with Kairi. Look at Mandy, despite her one dirty win against asuka, is a good power girl who’s promo skills have improved. And even then, she isn’t even getting any semblance of a push, as is Dana Brooke and Liv when her hair was still blonde. And even Alexa. She may not be the best wrestler, but, her promo skills and mannerism are second to none. I do agree that she shouldn’t have beaten Bayley so quickly or at all, but the idea of blondes rule WWE just isn’t there for me anymore.
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Post by spagett on Apr 10, 2019 10:45:46 GMT -5
I like Alexa Bliss.
She's great on the mic, she's charismatic and she's obviously drop dead gorgeous which will always help you in wrestling. That may not be fair but it's true and has been true in wrestling for years and years. She's nothing special in the ring but she's got enough to get by so it's not terrible or anything.
Her booking as this dominant monster heel is just baffling though and it's always at it's absolute worst whenever she's booked with Bayley. I've said it before but their feud in 2017 is the most one sided dominant heel victory I can ever remember.
If I'm Bayley I'm praying I'm moved on the opposite brand to Alexa next week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 10:46:09 GMT -5
Bayley's only avenue to get creative's respect now is either to gain 200 pounds or grow a beard.
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Post by realist on Apr 10, 2019 10:56:09 GMT -5
Alexa is blonde and attractive. She will always be in the upper echelon of the WWE women's division. Bayley means nothing to the WWE creative, so there you go. Don't just take my word for it. Look at everything she has done since coming up, which is getting squashed by Alexa in an embarrassing feud and being involved in a never ending storyline with Sasha Banks that sometimes involved the Riott Squad. If that were the case, wouldn’t we be seeing Charlotte as the duel champion? Blonde’s in WWE aren’t exactly these overpushed unathletic people anymore who are only pushed for looks. Look at Charlotte and Lacey. Ignoring the Rumble botches, she had some incredible matches down in NXT with Kairi. Look at Mandy, despite her one dirty win against asuka, is a good power girl who’s promo skills have improved. And even then, she isn’t even getting any semblance of a push, as is Dana Brooke and Liv when her hair was still blonde. And even Alexa. She may not be the best wrestler, but, her promo skills and mannerism are second to none. I do agree that she shouldn’t have beaten Bayley so quickly or at all, but the idea of blondes rule WWE just isn’t there for me anymore. I honestly can not disagree with that. WrestleMania 35 was an exception, however. If anyone but Becky had walked out with those titles, I feel like the crowd would have rioted. They gave the WWE fans what they wanted that night.
My statement was more about the way that blondes have been pushed throughout the history of the company. The face of the division has always seemed to be a blonde female to me. I'm talking from Sable to Debra to Kelly Kelly to Beth Phoenix to Trish Stratus to Alexa Bliss to Charlotte. Other women may have the title from time to time, but it just seems to me that the division always seems to revolve around the blondes. I could be totally off on that, but that is the way that I have always perceived it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 10:59:58 GMT -5
If that were the case, wouldn’t we be seeing Charlotte as the duel champion? Blonde’s in WWE aren’t exactly these overpushed unathletic people anymore who are only pushed for looks. Look at Charlotte and Lacey. Ignoring the Rumble botches, she had some incredible matches down in NXT with Kairi. Look at Mandy, despite her one dirty win against asuka, is a good power girl who’s promo skills have improved. And even then, she isn’t even getting any semblance of a push, as is Dana Brooke and Liv when her hair was still blonde. And even Alexa. She may not be the best wrestler, but, her promo skills and mannerism are second to none. I do agree that she shouldn’t have beaten Bayley so quickly or at all, but the idea of blondes rule WWE just isn’t there for me anymore. I honestly can not disagree with that. WrestleMania 35 was an exception, however. If anyone but Becky had walked out with those titles, I feel like the crowd would have rioted. They gave the WWE fans what they wanted that night.
My statement was more about the way that blondes have been pushed throughout the history of the company. The face of the division has always seemed to be a blonde female to me. I'm talking from Sable to Debra to Kelly Kelly to Beth Phoenix to Trish Stratus to Alexa Bliss to Charlotte. Other women may have the title from time to time, but it just seems to me that the division always seems to revolve around the blondes. I could be totally off on that, but that is the way that I have always perceived it.
I totally get what you mean, but, to me at least, it’s a bit warranted as Charlotte is a damn good competitor despite her awful babyface promos, and Alexa is a damn good actress and promo despite her awful heel style of wrestling. I do agree that her being dominant is way too much and silly for a heel of her size. SD booked her perfectly when she was a weasel. On top of that, I’m willing to let them slide with Becky, honestly. Vince loves her from all reports and it’s clear she’s the face of the division now.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Apr 10, 2019 11:02:06 GMT -5
I don't know if calling Alexa "the female Miz" is fair. At least when Miz was a heel, he was more underhanded and, on Raw, a chickenshit who had backup to bail him out. Bliss is treated like a Worldkiller when positioned against the likes of Bayley.
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Post by realist on Apr 10, 2019 11:05:09 GMT -5
I honestly can not disagree with that. WrestleMania 35 was an exception, however. If anyone but Becky had walked out with those titles, I feel like the crowd would have rioted. They gave the WWE fans what they wanted that night.
My statement was more about the way that blondes have been pushed throughout the history of the company. The face of the division has always seemed to be a blonde female to me. I'm talking from Sable to Debra to Kelly Kelly to Beth Phoenix to Trish Stratus to Alexa Bliss to Charlotte. Other women may have the title from time to time, but it just seems to me that the division always seems to revolve around the blondes. I could be totally off on that, but that is the way that I have always perceived it.
I totally get what you mean, but, to me at least, it’s a bit warranted as Charlotte is a damn good competitor despite her awful babyface promos, and Alexa is a damn good actress and promo despite her awful heel style of wrestling. I do agree that her being dominant is way too much and silly for a heel of her size. SD booked her perfectly when she was a weasel. On top of that, I’m willing to let them slide with Becky, honestly. Vince loves her from all reports and it’s clear she’s the face of the division now. I think you and I are pretty much on the same wavelength. I am a big fan of Charlotte and feel that she is probably in the top three workers in the company (male or female). I also like Alexa, but I feel that she is booked wrong when booked as a monster heel. She is just too small for the role. She is booked best, as you said, as a weasel.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 10, 2019 11:17:01 GMT -5
My biggest question here is why are we acting like Miz is some unstoppable monster babyface? Like, I know he beat SAnitY but that's the only instance I can remember of this.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 10, 2019 11:48:57 GMT -5
Oh, another Alexa thread. We needed some more of those like Bayley needs another god awful storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 12:05:55 GMT -5
For as much as we talked about Strowman being OP, Alexa was one of the first (if not the first "hey why are you saying that") superstars who was OP. She was dominating the division with a Triple H Reign of Terror-like Reign, her opponents never looked good, she outsmarted, was stronger than them I mean physically stronger than them, always ran them down, shit was disgusting.
Hell I'd say Reign of Terror Triple H made his opponents look better than Alexa did. Trips had goons, always talked them up, was always embarrassed by them but in the end he won the matches. Triple H didn't dominate his opponents in the matches. Alexa was about domination to the point where she was physically choking out the GENETICALLY SUPERIOR CHARLOTTE "WHOO I'M THAT WOMAN" FLAIR with her own 2 hands. She had that girl posing on her toes like Jacko.
Shit was nasty bruh. Alexa's push f***ing horrible. RIP Bayley for having to relive this shit.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 10, 2019 12:39:12 GMT -5
For as much as we talked about Strowman being OP, Alexa was one of the first (if not the first "hey why are you saying that") superstars who was OP. She was dominating the division with a Triple H Reign of Terror-like Reign, her opponents never looked good, she outsmarted, was stronger than them I mean physically stronger than them, always ran them down, shit was disgusting. Hell I'd say Reign of Terror Triple H made his opponents look better than Alexa did. Trips had goons, always talked them up, was always embarrassed by them but in the end he won the matches. Triple H didn't dominate his opponents in the matches. Alexa was about domination to the point where she was physically choking out the GENETICALLY SUPERIOR CHARLOTTE "WHOO I'M THAT WOMAN" FLAIR with her own 2 hands. She had that girl posing on her toes like Jacko. Shit was nasty bruh. Alexa's push f***ing horrible. RIP Bayley for having to relive this shit. They made Bayley to the equivalent of a literal child in her feud against Alexa
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