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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 10, 2019 12:39:25 GMT -5
Bayley needs that heel turn, ditto Banks. She might as well join up with alexa as she cant beat her plus her character sucks so badly, an evil bayley will br phenominal.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 10, 2019 12:44:32 GMT -5
Bayley is never going to be used properly while Vince is in charge.
Her appearance (figure/face/etc.), while very attractive to many (myself included) does not fit what Vince finds appealing.
He's an old man who peaked in the 80's. He likes tall blonde sticks with large enhanced breasts.
His hand was forced with Becky. He's not going to just push Bayley properly because she's talented.
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Post by sunnytaker on Apr 10, 2019 13:40:42 GMT -5
Bayley needs that heel turn, ditto Banks. She might as well join up with alexa as she cant beat her plus her character sucks so badly, an evil bayley will br phenominal. i'm thinking they may be starting to go that route, or at least testing the waters. remember how bayley was grabbing the ropes (outta nowhere!) to help on a cover attempt (though one could argue she was losing her balance and since it wasn't the finish she grabbed the rope to retain the pin attempt since it wasn't going to count anyway) need to have that bayley from the snickers commercial last year come out and huggin' murder everyone that gets in her huggin' way
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 13:45:54 GMT -5
Between Alexa beating her clean , the holding the ropes on a pin attempt and her overall body language would not surprise me if they shifted plans for Sasha to Bayley now.
Hopefully they actually go through with it this time...build it up over a few weeks have Alexa beating her clean at every turn and Bayleys frustration builds until a ppv match where she and Alexa double turn with Bayley destroying Alexa with weapons etc.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 10, 2019 13:46:52 GMT -5
I mean Bliss needed a quick win for her comeback... but Bayley was the wrong person to put into that position. (Unless they are actually going to do a double turn type scenario)
That said the only person I know of that would fit that position currently on raw would be Ember but people would complain about that too... doubley so since Ember just came back from injury herself...
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Apr 10, 2019 14:08:14 GMT -5
I mean Bliss needed a quick win for her comeback... but Bayley was the wrong person to put into that position. (Unless they are actually going to do a double turn type scenario) That said the only person I know of that would fit that position currently on raw would be Ember but people would complain about that too... doubley so since Ember just came back from injury herself... They could've just used Dana Brooke if they wanted to give Alexa a quick win.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 14:10:42 GMT -5
I mean Bliss needed a quick win for her comeback... but Bayley was the wrong person to put into that position. (Unless they are actually going to do a double turn type scenario) That said the only person I know of that would fit that position currently on raw would be Ember but people would complain about that too... doubley so since Ember just came back from injury herself... They could've just used Dana Brooke if they wanted to give Alexa a quick win. Knowing them, they probably heard how over Dana was at WM (which is still weird) and now have big plans for her.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 10, 2019 15:53:13 GMT -5
They could've just used Dana Brooke if they wanted to give Alexa a quick win. Knowing them, they probably heard how over Dana was at WM (which is still weird) and now have big plans for her. Yeah it seems like Dana actually may be in line for a little bit of a push between that reaction she got at WM, getting a decent amount of shine in the battle royal, and getting promo time on Raw. It's strange that they seem to be pushing her now after they completely buried her in her confrontations with Ronda last month unless maybe she impressed them by being a team player and going along with letting herself get embarrassed like that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 16:31:15 GMT -5
Jesus. One match and we already got multiple threads about this?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 16:35:30 GMT -5
Bayley is never going to be used properly while Vince is in charge. Her appearance (figure/face/etc.), while very attractive to many (myself included) does not fit what Vince does not find appealing. He's an old man who peaked in the 80's. He likes tall blonde sticks with large enhanced breasts. His hand was forced with Becky. He's not going to just push Bayley properly because she's talented. The thing is, the “tall stick blondes with big breasts” mindset isn’t as prominent as it was once. Sure, you’ve got blondes being pushed, but they’re talented and can hold their own. Charlotte can hold her own in the ring, Alexa can hold her own on the mic, Mandy can hold her own as a powerhouse. Just because they’re attractive blondes doesn’t make their pushed automatically unwarranted and a detriment to others. On top of this, you’ve also got Dana, Liv, Summer Rae, and even Mandy who aren’t getting a semblance of a push. And yes, Becky is the exception, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only exception. AJ Lee was pushed to the top of the cards as well. As was Lita when she defeated Stephanie for the women’s title.
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Post by sportatorium on Apr 10, 2019 16:37:22 GMT -5
Outside of the very top of the card for the women, the way they do the booking is puzzling to say the least. Watch- they’ll be trying to sell us Bayley as a contender for one of the belts in a few weeks or so.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 10, 2019 16:39:41 GMT -5
Here is where I think Vince loses it with Bayley. Sure, some of it isn't that she's not drop dead blonde gorgeous (what he typically thinks, not my thinking), but it's more than that; he's never really understood how or why she got over, and when that happens with Vince, he will book said person into the ground once the initial fan reaction subsides. The only thing missing is to have a feud with Kane.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 10, 2019 17:12:58 GMT -5
If they wanted Alexa to go out and squash someone, they should have used a local jobber. It would fit Alexa's character to brag about that (just like the IIconics did), and reiterate her heel credentials. No need to job out a known babyface.
But I just don't think people in the back see Bayley as marketable (which is crazy, considering her established appeal to young girls), and I think her weaknesses, which didn't matter in NXT, are a much bigger issue on Raw - Promos and the way she carries herself. She just seems like someone lacking in confidence, and Vince isn't likely to be interested in someone like that. But, a year ago we'd have been saying very similar things about Becky Lynch, so things can change in a big way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 17:29:18 GMT -5
If they wanted Alexa to go out and squash someone, they should have used a local jobber. It would fit Alexa's character to brag about that (just like the IIconics did), and reiterate her heel credentials. No need to job out a known babyface. But I just don't think people in the back see Bayley as marketable (which is crazy, considering her established appeal to young girls), and I think her weaknesses, which didn't matter in NXT, are a much bigger issue on Raw - Promos and the way she carries herself. She just seems like someone lacking in confidence, and Vince isn't likely to be interested in someone like that. But, a year ago we'd have been saying very similar things about Becky Lynch, so things can change in a big way. I’m gonna be honest here and say that Bayley really isn’t good on the mic. From what I’ve seen on the main roster, she sort of comes across like Sarah Logan where she sounds too awkward at times, imo.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 10, 2019 17:33:53 GMT -5
If they wanted Alexa to go out and squash someone, they should have used a local jobber. It would fit Alexa's character to brag about that (just like the IIconics did), and reiterate her heel credentials. No need to job out a known babyface. But I just don't think people in the back see Bayley as marketable (which is crazy, considering her established appeal to young girls), and I think her weaknesses, which didn't matter in NXT, are a much bigger issue on Raw - Promos and the way she carries herself. She just seems like someone lacking in confidence, and Vince isn't likely to be interested in someone like that. But, a year ago we'd have been saying very similar things about Becky Lynch, so things can change in a big way. I’m gonna be honest here and say that Bayley really isn’t good on the mic. From what I’ve seen on the main roster, she sort of comes across like Sarah Logan where she sounds too awkward at times, imo. NXT was no better. Her best stuff was done as interview style deals. She excels in that kind of more personal and intimate delivery. Mic work is not her strength.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 10, 2019 17:43:53 GMT -5
I’m gonna be honest here and say that Bayley really isn’t good on the mic. From what I’ve seen on the main roster, she sort of comes across like Sarah Logan where she sounds too awkward at times, imo. NXT was no better. Her best stuff was done as interview style deals. She excels in that kind of more personal and intimate delivery. Mic work is not her strength. and the quirky awkardish promos fit her underdog character too. for some reason Vince doesn't seem to understand what Underdogs actually are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 18:04:00 GMT -5
I’m gonna be honest here and say that Bayley really isn’t good on the mic. From what I’ve seen on the main roster, she sort of comes across like Sarah Logan where she sounds too awkward at times, imo. NXT was no better. Her best stuff was done as interview style deals. She excels in that kind of more personal and intimate delivery. Mic work is not her strength. That’s truly the only time where I noticed she’d shine. Those backstage moments of her freaking out over Regal or other legends were some of the times where she sounded natural and fun.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Apr 10, 2019 18:06:25 GMT -5
Oh, another Alexa thread. We needed some more of those like Bayley needs another god awful storyline. It's more of a Bayley thread. I haven't made a thread in years, humor me here.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 10, 2019 18:10:07 GMT -5
I’m gonna be honest here and say that Bayley really isn’t good on the mic. From what I’ve seen on the main roster, she sort of comes across like Sarah Logan where she sounds too awkward at times, imo. NXT was no better. Her best stuff was done as interview style deals. She excels in that kind of more personal and intimate delivery. Mic work is not her strength. She has this overly earnest, stiff quality to her promos that just makes them a little uncomfortable to listen to. In NXT, at least, it still sounded like her words, but like she was really uncomfortable talking in public. Which is perhaps true, and could be a really endearing quality in a wrestler, if presented properly.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Apr 10, 2019 18:13:25 GMT -5
Bayley doesn't fit the mold of anything Vince likes. She's not a supermodel blonde, she's not a monster, and she doesn't cut a good promo. She got her little run with the title, and the tag titles she and Sasha begged for that Vince won't give a shit about in 6 months. I think it's time for them to cut bait and test the waters elsewhere.
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