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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 12, 2019 10:40:47 GMT -5
With AEW, its so much easier for people to voice thier frustrations than it was before. I am not surprised. I was kind of stuck between "Oh grow up people lose titles" and actually they are right, they really should have given them a long run and eventually built to a heel turn for one of them. But they kind of just dropped it. So no wonder both of them are pretty pissed. I think we should wait and see what happens with the Superstar Shake up and where they both end up and then see if eithers future looks good.
A heel Sasha is a perfect a rival for Becky through the summer to be fair.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 10:43:29 GMT -5
people are going to feel left out with the sheer volume of people they have on the roster
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 12, 2019 10:43:34 GMT -5
I feel worse for Bayley than I do for Sasha, because you can tell that WWE was always her end goal, she's ALWAYS been the "Just happy to be here, living the dream" poster girl. So to hear that her morale is low, of all people....yeah, I feel terrible for her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 10:43:47 GMT -5
I don’t see where they’re going to go AEW is the only option for women. What other company puts as much exposure on women? TNA is dead. I can’t believe they’re actually considering that a possibility Anywhere else where they have more creative freedom that isn't making them look as bad as this is making them. It's more about the WWE structure than anything. But what’s the use in creative freedom if nobody is gonna see it? |
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 12, 2019 10:44:37 GMT -5
Kinda surprised honestly. Obviously she's been booked poorly most of her run but she a lot of times just seems happy to be there and living the dream more than Sasha does. I think WWE tries hard to keep her, she moves merch and is great with the PR stuff. That report touches on it but it is interesting to see the cracks showing up with some of the NXT golden children who are probably coming up with an unrealistic expectation of main roster life based on how differently NXT is run. Wonder if we'll start seeing more of that. Also if they do both leave I hope they end up in different places. I think Sasha and Bayley being so attached at the hip be it as rivals or partners has limited them both in a lot of ways. Yeah, but ROH wouldn't be the best option for either, Impact is on late Friday nights, and MLW hasn't had women's matches since last year. I suppose one of them could go to STARDOM if the other goes to AEW, though. |
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Post by héad.casé on Apr 12, 2019 10:47:46 GMT -5
Sean who was sourced in the original post has just said on twitter that he never actually said this at all anywhere.
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Post by markymark on Apr 12, 2019 10:48:02 GMT -5
Bayley could go to AAA, her character is perfect for the AAA women division(50% of their live atttendance are kids and women) despite not knowing spanish.
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 12, 2019 10:49:18 GMT -5
She deserves better, a truly likeable female babyface that everyone could get behind and they make her look like a chump, not to mention having her constantly lose to the bad girl Alexa
everytime they face. All i can thinkmof is that her look (which shes very beautiful) isnt what they like to oush her more.
Sasha and Bayley need to move on and id also say the same about the Riott Squad too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 10:50:36 GMT -5
Anywhere else where they have more creative freedom that isn't making them look as bad as this is making them. It's more about the WWE structure than anything. But what’s the use in creative freedom if nobody is gonna see it? It's not about if people see it or not. As a creator myself, it's not about how many eyes are on your product but more about the satisfaction of putting a piece of work together that you yourself are proud of. There's a reason Prince and Pac have vaults of music that hasn't been released in the world. They did it for the love of the music rather than the fans, they didn't care if the fans heard it. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 12, 2019 10:52:19 GMT -5
I'd argue Bayley has more reason to leave than Sasha. So I don't blame her at all. I'd agree with this. Sasha at least will occasionally get to do things that aren't related to Bayley. But Bayley has basically been stuck for almost 2 years being Sasha's friend. I dont think creative on the main roster values her like they do Sasha. Hell even before Becky caught fire and wasnt really getting pushed on Smackdown they still thought well enough of her to have her get the other women over |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 10:56:11 GMT -5
I am of the unpopular opinion that Bayley isn't all that great and have never liked her. I like her theme song. So I would prefer she go somewhere else and do something different that might actually spark my interest instead of what she has been doing all this time.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 12, 2019 10:56:14 GMT -5
I remember before her call-up, posting here that Bayley was the one person they couldn't possibly mess up.
As usual, I overestimated them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 10:56:44 GMT -5
But what’s the use in creative freedom if nobody is gonna see it? It's not about if people see it or not. As a creator myself, it's not about how many eyes are on your product but more about the satisfaction of putting a piece of work together that you yourself are proud of. There's a reason Prince and Pac have vaults of music that hasn't been released in the world. They did it for the love of the music rather than the fans, they didn't care if the fans heard it. You’re talking about a woman who’s mad she had to lose a scripted wrestling match here. She wants the limelight on HER. That’s why she’s pissed it’s on the IIconic’s... That much is obvious. Making music is a lot different to being a wrestler. If wrestling didn’t make money, nobody would do it. Without the fans, it is nothing. People have been making music as a hobby since the beginning of time. |
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Post by octopus on Apr 12, 2019 10:58:04 GMT -5
Anywhere else where they have more creative freedom that isn't making them look as bad as this is making them. It's more about the WWE structure than anything. But what’s the use in creative freedom if nobody is gonna see it? In the States. I know its the cool thing to shit on Impact here but their live attendance and merch sales have gone up. 2 years or so ago they couldn't draw 100 people. Now they're doing respectable ECW sized crowds. Their Critical Transformation show coming up with UCW could be their largest crowd in years. Their international deals are very good. Konnan went into depth about Impacts TV around the world on his podcast. Only thing they need to improve is their TV in the States which according to PWInsider they are doing so. Impact is not dead no matter how you portray it infact they have adapted pretty well. The company that will suffer from AEW looks to be Ring of Honor. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 12, 2019 10:59:12 GMT -5
Bayley didn’t come out the door looking good and she’s talented but NXT did a damn good job of putting her in a position to succeed
As per usual Vince and company don’t hide weaknesses on the main roster and on top of booking her like a literal child sometimes it’s been very high and low for her
WWE has leaned the crutch of her and Sasha too long and it would help both of them to be separated from each other along with having a diff ear to listen to. Keep Sasha on Raw with Becky if anything and Bayley with Charlotte or vice versa.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 11:00:39 GMT -5
I'd argue Bayley has more reason to leave than Sasha. So I don't blame her at all. I'd agree with this. Sasha at least will occasionally get to do things that aren't related to Bayley. But Bayley has basically been stuck for almost 2 years being Sasha's friend. I dont think creative on the main roster values her like they do Sasha. Hell even before Becky caught fire and wasnt really getting pushed on Smackdown they still thought well enough of her to have her get the other women over On top of that, it makes no sense that somebody like Sasha would be Bayley’s friend. They’re basically the perfect opposites of each other which makes me believe they’d be each other’s perfect rival instead. I’m not talking about real life here by the way. Strictly from a character perspective... Sasha is the “Legit Boss”, she would be the type who would look down on somebody like Bayley who runs around hugging people and is aimed towards little girls. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 11:03:11 GMT -5
But what’s the use in creative freedom if nobody is gonna see it? In the States. I know its the cool thing to shit on Impact here but their live attendance and merch sales have gone up. 2 years or so ago they couldn't draw 100 people. Now they're doing respectable ECW sized crowds. Their Critical Transformation show coming up with UCW could be their largest crowd in years. Their international deals are very good. Konnan went into depth about Impacts TV around the world on his podcast. Only thing they need to improve is their TV in the States which according to PWInsider they are doing so. Impact is not dead no matter how you portray it infact they have adapted pretty well. The company that will suffer from AEW looks to be Ring of Honor. While it may be doing a lot better than it was a few years ago, it’s still a non-factor alternative to WWE. Especially when they’re putting so much focus on the women now. You’d be crazy to walk away from that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 11:03:40 GMT -5
It's not about if people see it or not. As a creator myself, it's not about how many eyes are on your product but more about the satisfaction of putting a piece of work together that you yourself are proud of. There's a reason Prince and Pac have vaults of music that hasn't been released in the world. They did it for the love of the music rather than the fans, they didn't care if the fans heard it. You’re talking about a woman who’s mad she had to lose a scripted wrestling match here. She wants the limelight on HER. That’s why she’s pissed it’s on the IIconic’s... That much is obvious. Making music is a lot different to being a wrestler. If wrestling didn’t make money, nobody would do it. Without the fans, it is nothing. People have been making music as a hobby since the beginning of time. That's not the point of Sasha (and seemingly Bayley's) frustration. Reports said Sasha was made she was losing the belts because she wanted to make them strong credible titles compared to the IIconics who, in her opinion, will be making them seem as comedic props. To you it looks like she's doing it because losing the title but to me when I see that it looks as though as she's mad that the belts they fought day in and day out for will be made to look like jokes when they introduced them they were made out to be serious. It's more about the belts rather than who will be the most "winningest winning superstar on the roster." The reports even stated the comedy prop association for a reason. There's a difference between belts being serious titles rather than comedy titles. No one knows how the IIconics will do with the belts, no one knows if they'll make them legit but if that's what Sasha believes then yeah there's a difference.
We don't have to use music because, again, I go to this Ambrose quote.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 12, 2019 11:03:54 GMT -5
In the States. I know its the cool thing to shit on Impact here but their live attendance and merch sales have gone up. 2 years or so ago they couldn't draw 100 people. Now they're doing respectable ECW sized crowds. Their Critical Transformation show coming up with UCW could be their largest crowd in years. Their international deals are very good. Konnan went into depth about Impacts TV around the world on his podcast. Only thing they need to improve is their TV in the States which according to PWInsider they are doing so. Impact is not dead no matter how you portray it infact they have adapted pretty well. The company that will suffer from AEW looks to be Ring of Honor. While it may be doing a lot better than it was a few years ago, it’s still a non-factor alternative to WWE. Especially when they’re putting so much focus on the women now. You’d be crazy to walk away from that. You might think so. Her priorities might be different. |
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Post by Error on Apr 12, 2019 11:05:10 GMT -5
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