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Post by Rican on Apr 23, 2019 14:38:25 GMT -5
It's in the best interest of both of them to let her move on. Having someone being openly unhappy backstage and causing problems with other talent isn't worth the merch she moves or whatever.
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Post by nate5054 on Apr 23, 2019 14:39:24 GMT -5
As that keeps her off tv, I'm good with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 14:39:31 GMT -5
I can see Sasha wanting out so badly that she basically just breaks the contract and takes whatever lawsuit comes with it.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 23, 2019 14:39:45 GMT -5
That touches on that dig the commentators got in on Sasha during Sunday's Shield house show followed by them saying SD being a fresh start for Bayley. Could be me reading too far into it, but to me it's a bit of a narrative forming that Sasha was a bad influence. Bayley seems like she wants to at least keep trying and a new brand gives her a chance to change and grow. Sasha however, seems to be over WWE and their bullshit entirely. I imagine your best friend being in a sour mood over stuff that you just want to move on from can get annoying, no matter how great friends you are. Sasha and WWE have hit that "creative differences" impasse in their relationship. Neither is in the wrong more than the other really (regardless of where we get our jokes in, both Sasha and WWE are guilty of stupid shit it seems over this). Both are just kinda toxic seeming for the other and it's a bad relationship where you just want to see Sasha and WWE go on their ways from eachother and see it end before anyone else gets sucked into it like Bayley here.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 23, 2019 14:41:19 GMT -5
It's in the best interest of both of them to let her move on. Having someone being openly unhappy backstage and causing problems with other talent isn't worth the merch she moves or whatever. They don't need to have her in any building where they run a show. Just pay her for the rest of her contract, but tell her to stay at home. She'll have to reconcile with losing two or more years of her career.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2019 14:41:26 GMT -5
I can see Sasha wanting out so badly that she basically just breaks the contract and takes whatever lawsuit comes with it. If she wants to blow money she'd be better off hiring a lawyer to fight her contract status
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2019 14:42:57 GMT -5
It's in the best interest of both of them to let her move on. Having someone being openly unhappy backstage and causing problems with other talent isn't worth the merch she moves or whatever. She will be at home
They are just going to pay her, her downside
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 14:47:30 GMT -5
I can see Sasha wanting out so badly that she basically just breaks the contract and takes whatever lawsuit comes with it. If she wants to blow money she'd be better off hiring a lawyer to fight her contract status Oh yea definetly but I think even she knows she is a commodity everyone is talking about whether good or bad right now and probably wants to cash in on all that talk and she seems pretty damn impatient as a person overall IMO so dragging out things in court is probably not something she wants to do...unless she knows she knows she can win her "freedom" pretty swift and immediately.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 23, 2019 14:48:57 GMT -5
If she wants to blow money she'd be better off hiring a lawyer to fight her contract status Oh yea definetly but I think even she knows she is a commodity everyone is talking about whether good or bad right now and probably wants to cash in on all that talk and she seems pretty damn impatient as a person overall IMO so dragging out things in court is probably not something she wants to do...unless she knows she knows she can win her "freedom" pretty swift and immediately. Didn't Del Rio challenge that shit and win?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2019 14:50:42 GMT -5
Oh yea definetly but I think even she knows she is a commodity everyone is talking about whether good or bad right now and probably wants to cash in on all that talk and she seems pretty damn impatient as a person overall IMO so dragging out things in court is probably not something she wants to do...unless she knows she knows she can win her "freedom" pretty swift and immediately. Didn't Del Rio challenge that shit and win? Del Rio was fired tho wasn't her for smacking the employee who said some racist shit to him
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2019 14:52:54 GMT -5
If she wants to blow money she'd be better off hiring a lawyer to fight her contract status Oh yea definetly but I think even she knows she is a commodity everyone is talking about whether good or bad right now and probably wants to cash in on all that talk and she seems pretty damn impatient as a person overall IMO so dragging out things in court is probably not something she wants to do...unless she knows she knows she can win her "freedom" pretty swift and immediately. Oh yeah, right now is the time to cash in
2 years from now is a long time potentially if she can't wrestle tho it's a give and take considering no guarantee she would win a case especailly if it is written in her contract she has to fulfill certain dates and she didn't do so
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 23, 2019 15:08:37 GMT -5
Oh yea definetly but I think even she knows she is a commodity everyone is talking about whether good or bad right now and probably wants to cash in on all that talk and she seems pretty damn impatient as a person overall IMO so dragging out things in court is probably not something she wants to do...unless she knows she knows she can win her "freedom" pretty swift and immediately. Oh yeah, right now is the time to cash in
2 years from now is a long time potentially if she can't wrestle tho it's a give and take considering no guarantee she would win a case especailly if it is written in her contract she has to fulfill certain dates and she didn't do so
It's probably going to sting her to the core if she can't get in on AEW either from "The Beginning" and say she was there from the "Very First Show" (as long as we're not counting All In 1 as an official AEW show), or at least be able to say she was their First Women's Champion. She tends to have an ego about those sorts of things. And I get both sides of the argument, the one that says it's petty to not let her run free and clear to AEW in time for DoN, and also the one that says she signed the contract, she still owes dates, she's gone pouty as soon as it looked like another push was scrapped, let her sit and don't let her pouting get her what she wants.
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Post by 111111 on Apr 23, 2019 15:17:06 GMT -5
What's to stop her taking bookings elsewhere anyway?
She's an independant contractor and well within her rights to wrestle wherever she wants, just because somethings written in a contract doesn't mean its enforceable and WWE wouldn't want to risk taking it to court as there's a good chance the ruling would be against them which would completely kill the independant contactor scam dead.
If this was me I'd say f*** it and give that a shot instead of sitting at home for 3 years or whatever.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2019 15:23:28 GMT -5
What's to stop her taking bookings elsewhere anyway? She's an independant contractor and well within her rights to wrestle wherever she wants, just because somethings written in a contract doesn't mean its enforceable and WWE wouldn't want to risk taking it to court as there's a good chance the ruling would be against them which would completely kill the independant contactor scam dead. If this was me I'd say f*** it and give that a shot instead of sitting at home for 3 years or whatever. The problem in that gamble is she could potentially lose a shit ton of cash if it doesn't go her way
She has to weigh risk vs reward because others in her position which would be Punk and Neville sat on their hands because their contracts was running out (In Neville case a good few months) and just decided to wait instead of risk losing money between legal battles and WWE (tho Punk got wrapped in a diff legal battle)
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2019 15:25:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah, right now is the time to cash in
2 years from now is a long time potentially if she can't wrestle tho it's a give and take considering no guarantee she would win a case especailly if it is written in her contract she has to fulfill certain dates and she didn't do so
It's probably going to sting her to the core if she can't get in on AEW either from "The Beginning" and say she was there from the "Very First Show" (as long as we're not counting All In 1 as an official AEW show), or at least be able to say she was their First Women's Champion. She tends to have an ego about those sorts of things. And I get both sides of the argument, the one that says it's petty to not let her run free and clear to AEW in time for DoN, and also the one that says she signed the contract, she still owes dates, she's gone pouty as soon as it looked like another push was scrapped, let her sit and don't let her pouting get her what she wants. But even if she goes to AEW I don't expect them to give her the world
It seems they are wanting like minded people to "change professional wrestling" so that's when people will probably see what's her aim. Does she have an ego? Yes. She does love wrestling tho and she should and would be willing to play ball with them and their vision because if she has ideas they will listen but it can't really be ideas purely for her benefit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 15:26:10 GMT -5
Also didnt I see a picture of Sasha, Bayley and the Iiconics hugging and smiling together backstage after the Mania match? When did Sasha go from point A to point Petty When it came to differentiating between the talent and management, I reckon. Wouldn't have been right or fair to take her grief out on her fellow wrestlers....
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 23, 2019 15:27:01 GMT -5
What's to stop her taking bookings elsewhere anyway? She's an independant contractor and well within her rights to wrestle wherever she wants, just because somethings written in a contract doesn't mean its enforceable and WWE wouldn't want to risk taking it to court as there's a good chance the ruling would be against them which would completely kill the independant contactor scam dead. If this was me I'd say f*** it and give that a shot instead of sitting at home for 3 years or whatever. If she signed a contract stating that she could only work exclusively for the WWE, then it'll cost her a lot to test if it's enforceable. She can't claim she was misled or lied to, everyone knows exactly what a WWE contract amounts to. And she won't have been promised anything but a minimum number of working days and her pay for them. I doubt the WWE take many chances with the wording of their contracts. They'll have anticipated people challenging their 'independent contractor' status.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 15:33:55 GMT -5
For Sasha to challenge the contract in court she either would again need to be 100% sure she can absoloutley get judgment in her favor or she has to have literal f*** you money stashed somewhere because WWE would do what they always do which is bleed whoever it is dry by dragging out the proceedings.
But she may have no choice but to challenge if she wants out that badly because WWE aint gonna let her go and because two years in the wrestling world is a f***ing lifetime as so much can and will likely change in 2yrs and trying to cash in on her name 2yrs from now is gonna be well meaningless IMO.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Apr 23, 2019 15:34:10 GMT -5
Wish I could do this at my job. I actually kind of just did. I worked for a company for three years. I ran the press dining room for a professional baseball team. I was a model employee, glowing performance reviews, nominated for MVP and All-Star awards, suggested for the manager program, etc. Everybody, coworkers and press people loved me and loved working with me. So this year, a new company took over. New managers, new everything. I came back under the impression that my room wouldn't change. I could still run it my way, the way I've run it (very successfully) for the past three years. But nope, things my people liked were taken out, the coffee and Coke cups were basically dixie cups, I didn't pop fresh popcorn anymore, it was pre-popped. They got rid of condiments and salt and pepper shakers. They nixed the deli tray that people liked. Just really cheapened the room. So lots of people complained to me, and I told them I didn't like it either. Then this past weekend, they rearranged the room to literally pile all my plates, silverware, plasticware, napkins, to-go boxes, and cash register onto a cheap plastic folding table. I told the new managers that it was unsafe and unsanitary. They ignored me. So I decided to just do whatever I can to make my job as easy and be as successful as I can be. I'm not breaking my back for this company. So while my coworkers tell me about all the bullshit and stupid changes management made to their areas, I get called into HR. I get told I have a terrible attitude and I'm on my final warning. Which is funny because I've never gotten a first warning of any kind. Ever. I was also told that I am making my manager's jobs harder. Which is also weird since I never really see or talk to them. On top of me doing my usual stellar job that I've been doing since Day One. So I get hit with the battlecry of incompetent management: "If you don't get on board...you can leave." Even though I told them about the complaints I've gotten and the unsanitary things they've done, I was ignored. So my last game was Sunday. I walked. I really liked the job and the people, but the managers are just absolute clowns, who I wouldn't put in charge of a lemonade stand. I needed supplies ordered, never got them. I needed keys to the Coke machine, cash register, and the menu box, and they refused to give them to me. They asked me for months about how the press dining room was run, and I guess they just asked so they knew to do the total opposite. I hate that I left the people I became close with, but it was getting more miserable every game. Sometimes you have to walk away from an increasingly toxic situation and environment. So I can see Sasha's point, but it's all in how you handle it.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 23, 2019 15:38:28 GMT -5
What's to stop her taking bookings elsewhere anyway? She's an independant contractor and well within her rights to wrestle wherever she wants, just because somethings written in a contract doesn't mean its enforceable and WWE wouldn't want to risk taking it to court as there's a good chance the ruling would be against them which would completely kill the independant contactor scam dead. If this was me I'd say f*** it and give that a shot instead of sitting at home for 3 years or whatever. That's literally the entire point of a contract. No matter how big a John Oliver fan the judge is, Sasha would get destroyed in court. Unless she had the foresight to put in a guaranteed length for a title reign for belts that didn't exist when she signed the contract, she has no leg to stand on.
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