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Post by HMARK Center on May 11, 2019 10:13:54 GMT -5
Channel Awesome. When change the channel dropped they were losing 100ks a day from what I remember. edit: also from what I can see on the youtube score card while Jared's subscribers are the lowest they've been in 2 years... his views are actually up... potentially from people trying to figure out who he is but still. That's probably part of it, along with people leaving trolling comments. Not a shock that a lot of former friends of Jared's have come out and rebuked him, openly or with veiled comments, but an interesting one was PushingUpRoses, who stated that in addition to in the past saying she moved away from video game videos due to burnout and plateauing with it, that she also had become sick of the toxic elements in it, including some content creators, and she moved to doing TV videos to get away from that, with it being a shock to her how much more successful they ended up being for her channel. She didn't say Jared's name, but considering they'd previously been friends and the timing, it's kinda difficult to imagine she wouldn't mean him. The level of toxicity surrounding game culture, or whatever version of that culture some people are peddling these days, just never ceases to amaze me. I do have to wonder if gaming often being a hobby associated with less socially outgoing people back in the day did, as mentioned before, kind of create a perfect storm of people who have either gotten to be somewhat famous or at least be viewers taking part in an echo chamber thanks to platforms like YouTube, and now we're watching adult-ass people make the types of stupid and hurtful choices that kids will make sometimes before learning from their mistakes.
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That's probably part of it, along with people leaving trolling comments. Not a shock that a lot of former friends of Jared's have come out and rebuked him, openly or with veiled comments, but an interesting one was PushingUpRoses, who stated that in addition to in the past saying she moved away from video game videos due to burnout and plateauing with it, that she also had become sick of the toxic elements in it, including some content creators, and she moved to doing TV videos to get away from that, with it being a shock to her how much more successful they ended up being for her channel. She didn't say Jared's name, but considering they'd previously been friends and the timing, it's kinda difficult to imagine she wouldn't mean him. The level of toxicity surrounding game culture, or whatever version of that culture some people are peddling these days, just never ceases to amaze me. I do have to wonder if gaming often being a hobby associated with less socially outgoing people back in the day did, as mentioned before, kind of create a perfect storm of people who have either gotten to be somewhat famous or at least be viewers taking part in an echo chamber thanks to platforms like YouTube, and now we're watching adult-ass people make the types of stupid and hurtful choices that kids will make sometimes before learning from their mistakes. Considering all the gatekeeping and mudslinging comments people make when it comes to video games these days now that social media has made it easier and more profitable to be a maladjusted creep or ass, is it any wonder why I have less interest in games in general now than I did when I was younger? It's also one of the things that I Hate Everything pointed out as a supposed requirement to get anywhere on YouTube; you gotta talk about games. Originality and creativity be damned; you gotta make Minecraft garbage.
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Post by eJm on May 11, 2019 13:08:34 GMT -5
Two things; 1. What the F***?! 2. Ross is acting way mature about this then anyone in his position has a right to be. Mad props to the guy.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 11, 2019 13:25:17 GMT -5
Two things; 1. What the F***?! 2. Ross is acting way mature about this then anyone in his position has a right to be. Mad props to the guy. I always got the vibe off Ross from Game Grumps stuff that he's just a mellow dude that doesn't really give a shit about being "internet famous", but f***ing around with his friends brought more attention to his art, so he rolled with it.
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Post by Dub H on May 11, 2019 13:27:46 GMT -5
That would suck for Ross if true. He is such a great guy.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 11, 2019 14:34:05 GMT -5
Two things; 1. What the F***?! 2. Ross is acting way mature about this then anyone in his position has a right to be. Mad props to the guy. I always got the vibe off Ross from Game Grumps stuff that he's just a mellow dude that doesn't really give a shit about being "internet famous", but f***ing around with his friends brought more attention to his art, so he rolled with it. Ross is just that guy that's unreasonably chill about life.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 11, 2019 15:13:31 GMT -5
Guessing it's a combo of being chill, and recognizing that what's done is done, and getting pissed about it isn't going to do anything for him.
That, and presumably, this happened long ago enough that he's had a lot of time to come to terms with it. Prrrrobably would have been less chill at the beginning. Like, it sucks a lot, but if your wife would do this to you, dunno if you should want them to be your wife anymore, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 15:20:48 GMT -5
Ross always seems like he's a good guy, which is funny because on the Game Grump videos he was just a massive troll lol.
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Post by eJm on May 11, 2019 15:29:50 GMT -5
Ross always seems like he's a good guy, which is funny because on the Game Grump videos he was just a massive troll lol. To this day, I’m super bummed they never continued Sakurai Spirit.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on May 11, 2019 21:46:14 GMT -5
I'm disappointed to see Jared's brother have to come out and request people not send hateful messages to the rest of his family.
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 12, 2019 0:51:30 GMT -5
I'm disappointed to see Jared's brother have to come out and request people not send hateful messages to the rest of his family. Yeah, it's getting a little out of hand. Look the guy is a pretty awful human being if the accusations are true. But stuff like this is overreach by the community. I saw some stuff talking about how ugly Holly is. She isn't a saint in this, but I feel like personal attacks about looks are kind of out of the line. Luckily, our community here has stayed away from that form of attack.
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Post by Cyno on May 12, 2019 1:01:05 GMT -5
Holly is an ugly enough person on the inside where taking potshots at her looks just comes off as cheap.
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Holly isn't even ugly...
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Post by Mozenrath on May 12, 2019 1:39:38 GMT -5
Holly looks perfectly fine, but even if she didn't, honestly, that's almost the least relevant part of this whole mess, anyway. The gaslighting is way more f***ed up than the cheating was, and the abuse of his power over fans.
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 12, 2019 1:44:31 GMT -5
Holly looks perfectly fine, but even if she didn't, honestly, that's almost the least relevant part of this whole mess, anyway. The gaslighting is way more f***ed up than the cheating was, and the abuse of his power over fans. True, the focus should be on the awfulness of proJared. It shouldn't be taking cheap shots about people's appearance.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 12, 2019 1:52:33 GMT -5
Holly looks perfectly fine, but even if she didn't, honestly, that's almost the least relevant part of this whole mess, anyway. The gaslighting is way more f***ed up than the cheating was, and the abuse of his power over fans. True, the focus should be on the awfulness of proJared. It shouldn't be taking cheap shots about people's appearance. Honestly, as funny as some of the pictures have been comparing him to a cartoon worm, etc, that includes him. His looks have nothing to do with the awful shit he pulled, and he could look like Idris Elba and it'd still be skeezy.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on May 12, 2019 3:22:58 GMT -5
I am just stunned by this. I've been a fan of ProJared for years and he always came across as one of the most wholesome personalities on YouTube. I wouldn't even have cared about him cheating as IMO it's the kind of stuff that's really the concern of nobody but the people directly involved, but knowingly sending and requesting lewd pictures from underage fans crosses a line. Much like with JonTron, what's especially shocking is that it seems to go completely against what they stand for in public, you have no idea where this shit comes from.
It's one of those things where every part of it seems to be f'ed up too; as ever, the social media champions of morality have decided this gives them free reign to harass and insult people, including family and friends whom have nothing to do with any of this in the name of "basic human decency". So many people ravel in the mob hate and the endless persecution they commit, it's just disgusting, and some people really give off the vibe that they won't be satisfied until their targets are mentally broken and/or commit suicide. It's always nice when the people fighting an awful person are just as awful.
And speaking of JonTron, I don't know what the deal is with people acting like this somehow absolves him of his own abhorrent behaviour? "Someone else did something messed up, so that makes anything anyone else did okay depsite it changing nothing to what they did" ?!
On a more positive side, as other people mentioned, I'm very impressed with Ross' attitude. As this has shown, being decent (no matter what the "basic human decency" people will tell you) and reasonable isn't very big on social media, so it's nice to see someone who's directly involved take such a healthy stance on it. That's something I've always found fascinating about Ross: for as puerile as he likes to act in videos, he is often one of the most mature and reasonable persons I've seen when the time calls for it.
I also assume Miss Editor won't want anything to do with Projared any more. Does anybody know what else she works on or if she has her own shows? She's always been awesome and it'd be a real shame if her own YT career suffered for something she is completely innocent in.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on May 12, 2019 4:10:31 GMT -5
Every time one of these stories comes around, I'm a little bit happier that the few YouTube folks that I follow tend to be pretty cool and free of sleaze. Pat and Ian, the Metal Jesus crew, Cinemassacre, Game Sack, and Toy Galaxy all seem just be good folks who enjoy doing what they do.
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Post by Paul on May 12, 2019 4:28:29 GMT -5
Every time one of these stories comes around, I'm a little bit happier that the few YouTube folks that I follow tend to be pretty cool and free of sleaze. Pat and Ian, the Metal Jesus crew, Cinemassacre, Game Sack, and Toy Galaxy all seem just be good folks who enjoy doing what they do. It's important to remember that (just as with anything else) the "bad guys" are the exception to the rule. 99% of the YouTube gaming reviewers are good people. Don't let the bad apples make you think that most of the rest of them are like that, too. James Rolfe is (from everything I've heard) one of the nicest people you're ever likely to meet and I'm sure almost all the other game reviewers are just as good at heart as he is. Don't let the very small handful of awful people in that community get you down.
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