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Post by willywonka666 on May 26, 2019 14:55:50 GMT -5
Of their demeanor?
I mean yea, they’re coached and hopefully improve over time, but when it comes to your champions, you want someone that can interact with fans outside as well as inside the ring.
But have there been any where they just couldn’t quite pull it together and might have been squashed because of it? Whether it be their lack of believability in the way the carried themselves, or didn’t take it seriously enough, or even a jerk
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 26, 2019 15:00:04 GMT -5
Supposedly Baron Corbin a few years ago when he won MITB
Baron was basically the only choice to win and you can say he wasn't fully ready but they could have gave him a quick run. What came out was he was being a bit arrogant and Cena basically went out his way to shit on him during their whole feud in which Corbin lost his MITB and a squash to Cena at Summerslam
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on May 26, 2019 20:42:35 GMT -5
Low Ki, literally everywhere he's ever worked except MLW for some reason
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Post by James Fabiano on May 28, 2019 15:18:21 GMT -5
Supposedly this happened with Big Show when he started in the WWF.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 28, 2019 15:26:05 GMT -5
Supposedly Baron Corbin a few years ago when he won MITB Baron was basically the only choice to win and you can say he wasn't fully ready but they could have gave him a quick run. What came out was he was being a bit arrogant and Cena basically went out his way to shit on him during their whole feud in which Corbin lost his MITB and a squash to Cena at Summerslam Cena buried the dude DEEP. He was permanently damaged goods from that point on, which is why I don't understand why WWE insists on him taking up like a full hour-plus of RAW every week. |
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Post by salz4life on May 28, 2019 15:28:19 GMT -5
Didn't this kind of happen to Jericho after debut in '99 as well?
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Post by Rave on May 28, 2019 16:22:23 GMT -5
Low Ki, literally everywhere he's ever worked except MLW for some reason You can replace Low Ki with Teddy Hart in that and it still applies. Court Bauer is like the jackass whisperer at this point. |
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Post by crowley1986 on May 28, 2019 16:52:53 GMT -5
Supposedly Baron Corbin a few years ago when he won MITB Baron was basically the only choice to win and you can say he wasn't fully ready but they could have gave him a quick run. What came out was he was being a bit arrogant and Cena basically went out his way to shit on him during their whole feud in which Corbin lost his MITB and a squash to Cena at Summerslam and the whole concussion things he brought up when some doc was giving a lecture to the talent, cheesed off the higher ups |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 16:53:16 GMT -5
Didn't this kind of happen to Jericho after debut in '99 as well? I always thought that was Vince thinking insane Vince things along with people in Vince’s ear because Jericho was from WCW and had a lot of potential. Likely HHH and his goons at the time. |
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Post by crowley1986 on May 28, 2019 16:53:26 GMT -5
Didn't this kind of happen to Jericho after debut in '99 as well? Cough, HHH and DX, saying he didn't work the "wwf" style |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 28, 2019 17:01:28 GMT -5
Supposedly Baron Corbin a few years ago when he won MITB Baron was basically the only choice to win and you can say he wasn't fully ready but they could have gave him a quick run. What came out was he was being a bit arrogant and Cena basically went out his way to shit on him during their whole feud in which Corbin lost his MITB and a squash to Cena at Summerslam What the f*** was this about? Cena even then got booked to win mostly, but usually put people over DURING the matches, at least. He was just merciless with Corbin during this feud, it seemed so unnecessary. |
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Post by Shark on May 28, 2019 17:12:14 GMT -5
Didn't this kind of happen to Jericho after debut in '99 as well? I've honestly always wondered how true that really was. He debuted in August and by November he was in a IC title program and by the end of the year he was co champion. If his push was stopped, it wasn't for very long. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2019 17:17:55 GMT -5
Supposedly Baron Corbin a few years ago when he won MITB Baron was basically the only choice to win and you can say he wasn't fully ready but they could have gave him a quick run. What came out was he was being a bit arrogant and Cena basically went out his way to shit on him during their whole feud in which Corbin lost his MITB and a squash to Cena at Summerslam What the f*** was this about? Cena even then got booked to win mostly, but usually put people over DURING the matches, at least. He was just merciless with Corbin during this feud, it seemed so unnecessary. Yea, Cena at that point was putting people over but he almost went out his way to just bury Corbin as that killed his push until they gave him the US title a few months later |
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Post by James Fabiano on May 28, 2019 17:31:42 GMT -5
Didn't this kind of happen to Jericho after debut in '99 as well? I've honestly always wondered how true that really was. He debuted in August and by November he was in a IC title program and by the end of the year he was co champion. If his push was stopped, it wasn't for very long. Point is, they had him come in trash talking the Rock. Weeks later, he did the same to the Undertaker. Then when he started wrestling there, he was put firmly into the midcard...yes, I even consider the Intercontinental level to be midcard. Especially after the heyday of said title was long done. It's no secret that certain people, read: HHH mostly, had the old WWF/E "outsider prejudice" and were talking him down. I'm sure most parties involved have now admitted that, to a degree. Plus I think Russo had plans for him and then he was gone. |
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Post by James Fabiano on May 28, 2019 17:32:04 GMT -5
What the f*** was this about? Cena even then got booked to win mostly, but usually put people over DURING the matches, at least. He was just merciless with Corbin during this feud, it seemed so unnecessary. Yea, Cena at that point was putting people over but he almost went out his way to just bury Corbin as that killed his push until they gave him the US title a few months later And now Baron always wins. Be careful what you wish for. |
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Post by illiniman88 on May 28, 2019 17:33:48 GMT -5
Supposedly this happened with Big Show when he started in the WWF. Think I have read Vince was unhappy about his work ethic and his weight |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 28, 2019 17:34:30 GMT -5
I've honestly always wondered how true that really was. He debuted in August and by November he was in a IC title program and by the end of the year he was co champion. If his push was stopped, it wasn't for very long. Point is, they had him come in trash talking the Rock. Weeks later, he did the same to the Undertaker. Then when he started wrestling there, he was put firmly into the midcard...yes, I even consider the Intercontinental level to be midcard. Especially after the heyday of said title was long done. It's no secret that certain people, read: HHH mostly, had the old WWF/E "outsider prejudice" and were talking him down. I'm sure most parties involved have now admitted that, to a degree. Plus I think Russo had plans for him and then he was gone. Oh Lord, from Rock to Road Dogg. And the only response Road Dogg had was "Why don't you shut up? BITCH." |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 28, 2019 17:49:49 GMT -5
Allegedly they got second thoughts on Luger during the lex express era because of how bad he treated the fans and reporters when the cameras weren’t rolling.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 28, 2019 17:50:49 GMT -5
Supposedly this happened with Big Show when he started in the WWF. Think I have read Vince was unhappy about his work ethic and his weight Show was never really trained in wcw. He admits that he had like a week of wrestling school before debuting on tv. |
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 28, 2019 18:00:09 GMT -5
I've honestly always wondered how true that really was. He debuted in August and by November he was in a IC title program and by the end of the year he was co champion. If his push was stopped, it wasn't for very long. Point is, they had him come in trash talking the Rock. Weeks later, he did the same to the Undertaker. Then when he started wrestling there, he was put firmly into the midcard...yes, I even consider the Intercontinental level to be midcard. Especially after the heyday of said title was long done. It's no secret that certain people, read: HHH mostly, had the old WWF/E "outsider prejudice" and were talking him down. I'm sure most parties involved have now admitted that, to a degree. Plus I think Russo had plans for him and then he was gone. I doubt he would of gone straight to the wwf title. The guy was still a midcarder in WCW, yes he inturrupted the rock in his debut and they had big plans for him but I doubt he would of won the wwf title by Wrestlemania or something, he had to of developed in the midcard. The shield guys also had a HUGE debut And were destined for the main event but even they had to go through the midcard |
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