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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 0:58:49 GMT -5
And even then the only match they've won since Mania (not counting Main Event, because honestly who does) was over a pair of jobbers two days later. And being more exact they have never won a match on Raw, because the one they had on there before Mania they lost.
I get that they're supposed to be undeserving champions, but what's even the point of the belts if almost immediately they go to a not-very-established tag team that loses to every random throw-together singles team put in front of them?
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Post by Mozenrath on May 28, 2019 1:04:53 GMT -5
It's definitely obnoxious, and not in the fun way. They could at least sneak some wins instead of just being big gold belt Rey Mysterio'd.
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Post by romanstylesiii on May 28, 2019 1:28:32 GMT -5
It's definitely obnoxious, and not in the fun way. They could at least sneak some wins instead of just being big gold belt Rey Mysterio'd. Most champions have a losing record once they win titles. I don't get this. Everyone keeps complaining about this and no one in WWE is taking note
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 28, 2019 1:33:03 GMT -5
I remember literally saying when the women’s tag titles were rumored that the one thing, the ONE thing, they shouldn’t do is give the women’s tag titles to someone like The IIconics so they can lose all the time and make the titles mean nothing.
I honestly didn’t even expect that to come to pass because they might have cared for longer than a couple of months but there we go.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 1:34:38 GMT -5
The really crazy thing about how meaningless these belts are - the IIconics have had the titles for longer than Sasha and Bayley did and yet they still haven't done anything with them besides job them out.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on May 28, 2019 1:37:15 GMT -5
Though I prefer it now personally with Bayley being SD champion, makes even less sense now why they took the belts off of her and Sasha based on how the Iconics have been booked
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Post by RI Richmark on May 28, 2019 2:02:51 GMT -5
I get the feeling that they put the titles on the IIconics just to have them drop the titles to Askua and Kairi.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 2:03:16 GMT -5
they probably just made the belts to prove they're pro-woman when people criticize the Saudi shows
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 28, 2019 2:16:24 GMT -5
Sad thing is they had right idea with them the first week with them beating jobbers while calling themselves "fighting champions". Good smarmy heel stuff that doesn't hurt the titles, doesn't hurt them, and doesn't hurt other women on the roster. It also would've avoided the booking dilemma of the IIconics suddenly being booked like world beaters despite winning like 3 matches before winning the titles. Instead they've just gone in the usual moronic champions always lose non title matches direction they always go in.
In this case though it's even more annoying because it's dealing with champions and championships that aren't established enough to take that crap booking. Also a lot of the times their losses aren't even setting up title programs. It's a little more understandable on Smackdown with them losing to the Kabuki Warriors since they're potential challengers but on Raw they've been used as punching bags for Becky the last few weeks and last month were used to put over Naomi and Bayley (who haven't teamed since) and Naomi in single matches because …… reasons? I guess if Becky loses the Raw title soon and The Celtic Connection becomes a full time team that challenges for the title then I could understand them losing to Becky and Nikki a little more but I doubt they have any plans. It's a perfect example of wins and losses, titles, and logic meaning as less as ever and it's why I might be at my lowest point as a life long fan. It's like they really don't care anymore and for that I hope AEW really takes off as it will give me a better alternative and maybe make WWE start caring.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 28, 2019 2:18:36 GMT -5
Sasha and Bayley might have had some merit to being as pissed as they were in the end... not that they still didn't look terrible in doing it.
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Post by SparkyPlugg on May 28, 2019 3:01:18 GMT -5
It’s probably being done to wind up Sasha even more.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 3:02:53 GMT -5
Ghost of Sasha Past.
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Post by bearned on May 28, 2019 3:05:21 GMT -5
I would say this is most likely them burying the belts to piss off Sasha.
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Post by BigAl on May 28, 2019 3:48:03 GMT -5
Yeah let's Bury thr new woman's title just to piss off a employee only this company would pull something stupid like this
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on May 28, 2019 3:52:17 GMT -5
I don't think it's aimed at Sasha, because by all accounts they want her back
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 28, 2019 3:59:14 GMT -5
They keep booking themselves into these holes of matches where it’s like nobody can afford to lose. Either it’s the tag champions, a pair of comedy heels admittedly, but with a new belt that needs further solidification and enhancement in terms of being a regularly featured part of the TV shows, or the other team comprising of literally your top female star, one of the singles champions and winner of the main event of the last WrestleMania, and one of your promising NXT call ups that is only just now finding herself getting regular time after four months on the roster. You can’t do a dirty finish because that just pigeonholes you as THAT company that always does bullshit finishes, a clean finish leads to this thread being made about whoever loses, so... The only solution is just not booking the match in that form.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 4:01:53 GMT -5
They really should be winning more in tag matches at least, since their chemistry and bond is what separates them from the rest of the teams in the division. It's like they think they can afford to lose every week because they'll just bounce back with their character work in those WWE.com videos, but they should be treated as serious threats when they're teamed up.
I'd say just take the titles off them, but I'm not sure it really matters who the champs are because they've already stopped caring about the titles in general. I'll say I'm still glad Bayley's out of that awful tag team with Sasha, though.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 28, 2019 4:04:13 GMT -5
Yeah let's Bury thr new woman's title just to piss off a employee only this company would pull something stupid like this I think it’s more Sasha is pissed because she knew they were going to bury the titles
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Post by theironyuppie on May 28, 2019 4:15:10 GMT -5
They keep booking themselves into these holes of matches where it’s like nobody can afford to lose. Either it’s the tag champions, a pair of comedy heels admittedly, but with a new belt that needs further solidification and enhancement in terms of being a regularly featured part of the TV shows, or the other team comprising of literally your top female star, one of the singles champions and winner of the main event of the last WrestleMania, and one of your promising NXT call ups that is only just now finding herself getting regular time after four months on the roster. You can’t do a dirty finish because that just pigeonholes you as THAT company that always does bullshit finishes, a clean finish leads to this thread being made about whoever loses, so... The only solution is just not booking the match in that form.
I think this also speaks to one of the other issues with the Raw women's division. Becky is of course the top star and is going to keep getting strong/protected booking, but due to the lack of attention to midcard women's matches, nobody else has been built up and so nobody there feels remotely on her level or is able to be taken seriously as a challenger. They were trying for a little bit with Lacey getting the advantage in a segment or two, but then they had Becky beat her three times clean in three nights last week, and while they teased the feud still going on, there's not really much basis as it stands. This is of course compounded by Sasha's ongoing absence.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 4:27:10 GMT -5
What an absolute joke that your champions never win. Just shitty booking and makes the titles look bad.
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