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Post by Dub H on May 29, 2019 11:48:24 GMT -5
I would imagine that they probably feel similarly if not the exact same, but not everyone can just pack up and leave. Roman has a wife, three kids, and just finished battling leukemia. I'm sure that he realizes that life is short and health is fleeting, so he is probably trying to make as much money as possible for his family while he can. Also, he probably feels that if he battled that illness again or anything else happened to him, Vince/HHH may be willing to look out for his loved ones out of his loyalty as a top guy, like they have done for HBK, Taker, and Ultimate Warrior's family. To sum up my rambling, I would be shocked if Roman Reigns didn't have a few gripes, but he probably appreciates the stability more. Reigns would probably be dumb to leave, he's that dude they'll pay till he's like 65 just because he's a legend etc etc. Seth on the other hand...I could see that one. WWE invested all their eggs on reigns.They have no choice but pay him till he is 65 at this point
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 29, 2019 12:01:13 GMT -5
Is Moxley criticising Attitude Era guys for saying todays wrestlers are scared to grab the brass ring or stand up to Vince a shot at Stone Cold? I wouldn't say a shot, but it def seems him saying old timers don't get the current problem in WWE and that Vince is different now. I said the last time Cena said something about the land of opportunity. WWE Now, and WWE when Cena showed up are completely different beasts. Cena would never have been given the rapping gimmick today... or if he did he'd never be more than the midcard joke he started out as.
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2019 12:06:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't say a shot, but it def seems him saying old timers don't get the current problem in WWE and that Vince is different now. I said the last time Cena said something about the land of opportunity. WWE Now, and WWE when Cena showed up are completely different beasts. Cena would never have been given the rapping gimmick today... or if he did he'd never be more than the midcard joke he started out as. They'd most likely tell him to stop rapping because it was getting over and as a heel you're not supposed to be entertaining, like with Bad News Barrett and Rusev Day etc. God dammit heels are supposed to be boring as shit like Corbin and Mcintyre Pal!
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Post by Chiral on May 29, 2019 12:06:47 GMT -5
Vince saying "this is GREAT writing and will get you a lot of heat" explains so much about WWE's process.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 29, 2019 12:07:52 GMT -5
I’ll be honest I have no real desire to listen to this Is there anything we didn’t know besides Vince is a complete f***ing idiot ? Its worth it. Too much to name like Ambrose being paid 500 bucks for that Shield special a few months ago as a final f*** you to Ambrose saying that Vince was pissed hearing that they couldn't bury Ambrose with the EC3 shit. Him looking up his depression symptoms on WebMD, him telling Renee that if they have nothing else they have each other, a lot of stuff. Oh really, i'll have to give that a listen at some point then. Good on him tho, he played the game well and got the f*** outta there
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 29, 2019 12:10:29 GMT -5
I keep hearing all this stuff from Jon, and now I'm imagining how much worse it must be for the women. Yet, Sasha is just a complainer... Somehow.Not exactly a one to one comparision
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Post by Fade on May 29, 2019 12:10:30 GMT -5
This is why...the guy is my guy after Punk & Austin.
Not gonna say anything that’s already been said other than I’m glad this is cathartic for Ambrose fans and fans of the E that get frustrated with Vince.
I’m very happy for the guy seemingly being excited and happy for everything now.
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Post by Venti on May 29, 2019 12:15:32 GMT -5
Listened to the whole thing and wow I'm speechless.
I gotta point out, I love the part about old wrestlers from the Attitude Era.
Like I love Stone Cold, my all time favorite, but Jon makes it clear that guys like him have no idea just how micro managed everything is. Hopefully this opens up alot more eyes.
Loved the whole thing. I'm so excited for things to come.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 12:15:37 GMT -5
Its worth it. Too much to name like Ambrose being paid 500 bucks for that Shield special a few months ago as a final f*** you to Ambrose saying that Vince was pissed hearing that they couldn't bury Ambrose with the EC3 shit. Him looking up his depression symptoms on WebMD, him telling Renee that if they have nothing else they have each other, a lot of stuff. Oh really, i'll have to give that a listen at some point then. Good on him tho, he played the game well and got the f*** outta there If you liked Punk's podcast with Cabana you'll like this one. He's also got more fire than he's had on previous podcasts with Jericho and Austin. Pretty much his version of the Punk stuff.
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Post by government mule on May 29, 2019 12:19:57 GMT -5
So interesting. I'm not one to trash on Vince (or anyone really) because I don't really care enough but holy f***ing shit, that guy is doing his best to drive his own company into the ground. This will only intensify more and more exits now because people will believe the grass will be greener in the other side.
You can kinda see what it's like for people like Rusev at the moment.
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Post by Moppy on May 29, 2019 12:21:20 GMT -5
That promo he cuts around about the 1 hour mark where he's all like "the product sucks, Vince is the problem" was so gratifying to hear. He's ALL of us in that moment.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 29, 2019 12:21:38 GMT -5
Oh really, i'll have to give that a listen at some point then. Good on him tho, he played the game well and got the f*** outta there If you liked Punk's podcast with Cabana you'll like this one. He's also got more fire than he's had on previous podcasts with Jericho and Austin. Pretty much his version of the Punk stuff. I never really cared for Punk podcast lol. It was a bombshell yes, but these type of "giving out" podcast never really keep my attention. However, Dean is a diff story as he left on his accord and based upon summary I read this is just a guy who while appreciative of his time there was fed up with everything I'll most likely give this a listen more so for Dean than him giving out as this is the most passionate you will hear him speak outside the ring since he is usually reserved.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2019 12:23:09 GMT -5
So interesting. I'm not one to trash on Vince (or anyone really) because I don't really care enough but holy f***ing shit, that guy is doing his best to drive his own company into the ground. This will only intensify more and more exits now because people will believe the grass will be greener in the other side. You can kinda see what it's like for people like Rusev at the moment. There is generally a reason people his age retire...
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 29, 2019 12:28:18 GMT -5
If you liked Punk's podcast with Cabana you'll like this one. He's also got more fire than he's had on previous podcasts with Jericho and Austin. Pretty much his version of the Punk stuff. I never really cared for Punk podcast lol. It was a bombshell yes, but these type of "giving out" podcast never really keep my attention. However, Dean is a diff story as he left on his accord and based upon summary I read this is just a guy who while appreciative of his time there was fed up with everything I'll most likely give this a listen more so for Dean than him giving out as this is the most passionate you will hear him speak outside the ring since he is usually reserved. Punk is an interesting listen but after listening to other podcasts where Punk was discussed I have a bit of a different opinion. He was obviously mistreated but it felt like that was two sides where both parties hated each other throughout their time together. This one felt more venting about why creatively someone wanted to leave.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 12:29:36 GMT -5
If you liked Punk's podcast with Cabana you'll like this one. He's also got more fire than he's had on previous podcasts with Jericho and Austin. Pretty much his version of the Punk stuff. I never really cared for Punk podcast lol. It was a bombshell yes, but these type of "giving out" podcast never really keep my attention. However, Dean is a diff story as he left on his accord and based upon summary I read this is just a guy who while appreciative of his time there was fed up with everything I'll most likely give this a listen more so for Dean than him giving out as this is the most passionate you will hear him speak outside the ring since he is usually reserved. Yeah that's the main reason why it's different than a lot of these post-wrestling company interviews. Ambrose kept his head down and kept working, he never complained outloud, he never used any social media to whine so to see this come out now is just different.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 12:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 29, 2019 12:40:13 GMT -5
I keep hearing all this stuff from Jon, and now I'm imagining how much worse it must be for the women. Yet, Sasha is just a complainer... Somehow.Not exactly a one to one comparision I mean, we don’t even know what the comparison is. We never got much more of the story about the hotel floor from any of the apparent 4 sources. Were they drunk? Were they loud? Laughing? Were there noise complaints? Did security have to be involved? Like, there’s not much outside of that it happened. And also there’s a wide history of powerful men in the entertainment industry saying women are “too difficult to work with” for standing up for themselves like men have and basically not getting much work from it. I’m not saying that’s the case with Sasha but the wrestling industry is still full of really insecure people.
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Post by Venti on May 29, 2019 12:58:28 GMT -5
On another note, the things he said about Renee was absolutely heartwarming to hear. I almost went "awwww" out loud.
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Post by cmhunk on May 29, 2019 13:01:28 GMT -5
This is hyperbole and the type of stuff that gets thrown around but f*** it. This and his debut at DoN feels like Austin leaving WCW. Just a huge creative force being unleashed.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 29, 2019 13:05:53 GMT -5
Not exactly a one to one comparision I mean, we don’t even know what the comparison is. We never got much more of the story about the hotel floor from any of the apparent 4 sources. Were they drunk? Were they loud? Laughing? Were there noise complaints? Did security have to be involved? Like, there’s not much outside of that it happened. And also there’s a wide history of powerful men in the entertainment industry saying women are “too difficult to work with” for standing up for themselves like men have and basically not getting much work from it. I’m not saying that’s the case with Sasha but the wrestling industry is still full of really insecure people. Sasha could have been lied to or pushed around. And as I said earlier there is nothing wrong with being unhappy and wanting to move on. I have just always gotten a vibe from Sasha that isnt great which is probably not fair.
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