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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 15:18:18 GMT -5
I thought about this yesterday but it feels like WWE's work environment has taken away what made many of the wrestlers "superstars" back in the day. When you watch these old ppvs, the old moments, the Golden Era, stuff like that you always hear about how those wrestlers are themselves but turned up to 100. You always read these stories about how they became who they became, what they did, what made them them and even more so for the Attitude Era guys. Edge and Christian for example, their podcast is a great example of it given they've talked about how they became the Edge and Christian we know. But WWE's work environment, they've taken away your voice so that's your mouth, just gone. They've taken away who you are as a person because it's not about who you are, it's about who Vince sees you as so there's there. All you have access to is your physique and in-ring skills which, if Vince doesn't like it, he can tell you to stop doing a move in favor of someone else (Ambrose had to stop doing the Cannonball because Owens came in). Basically you're essentially a puppet but back in the day however your voice, your gimmick, that's one of the reasons people wanna do it. We've been playing WWE games for years. Warzone in 98 was the first wrestling game to allow you to create a wrestler from scratch. Now, imagine if in these games you couldn't have the gimmick you want, have the story you want, have the style you want, had to change some moves of yours, just go down the list man, that would be damaging. It's crazy. Because nowdays vince doesnt want wrestlers. As Ambrose said,he wants actors. Wrestling is not a tv show but vince treats it as such. He bring failed sitcoms writers and wants wrestlers to act the way he wants because this is HIS TV show. He wants compete with movies and Disney,not have wrestling. Yep exactly. And shoutout to Ambrose again. Such a great interview.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 30, 2019 15:32:59 GMT -5
Personally, I think Vince McMahon is doing a fantastic job. Did you see that groundbreaking first edition of Corey Graves' Electric Chair, it was GOOD SH-tuff.
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Post by arrogantmodel on May 30, 2019 15:46:38 GMT -5
Personally, I think Vince McMahon is doing a fantastic job. Did you see that groundbreaking first edition of Corey Graves' Electric Chair, it was GOOD SH-tuff. Vince would never let the beard win.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 16:09:42 GMT -5
For every person who doesn't like working for WWE, there is another person who does. When employees leave the company and publically vocalize their complaints, we cite these complaints as evidence to support our claims against WWE. This is confirmation bias, however, because it ignores the people who are satisfied working for the company. The problem is that it's not an isolated incident or just a bad apple spoiling the bunch. It's a growing trend of dissatisfied employees frustrated with a demented boss in a dead end environment. The only people happy right now are the people said boss believe will make the company prosper, said boss's family, and said boss. And Mark Henry. Right now, it's not really confirmation bias (as in, we hear what we want to hear) but rather an indication of a growing trend towards an unpleasant circumstance of events. Confirmation bias is wanting to believe everything is alright in this scenario.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 16:51:33 GMT -5
Personally, I think Vince McMahon is doing a fantastic job. Did you see that groundbreaking first edition of Corey Graves' Electric Chair, it was GOOD SH-tuff. I like the way snrub thinks!
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Post by abjordans on May 30, 2019 19:17:51 GMT -5
Outside of the creative department, I think it is a lot like other jobs. Some like it, some don’t. Even with the talent, probably some who like it and some who don’t. People with negative feelings are always more vocal, that is something to keep in mind though.
I think NXT has one of the best working environments in wrestling history, everyone really enjoys their time there. That is part of WWE. Bryan is possibly the biggest “artist” wrestler of all time and he actively chose to resign with them recently.
There is some bad things going on in WWE currently and a lot of room for change, growth, and improvement. But, I think there are a lot of people who are truly happy to be employed by WWE.
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Post by joeiscool on May 30, 2019 19:29:55 GMT -5
I think wwe works with people who are more team players.
People like John Cena, Mark Henry, Booker T, and some others really seem to love it there, and at least refuse to crap on it.
Other people like Bully Ray, Mick Foley and Bryan have positive but nuanced opinions.
There are other people who want to change the way wwe does things like CM punk, and Dean they seem to not fair as well.
WWE is basically one of the very few ways you can make a lot of money doing severely dangerous sport of professional wrestling, and depending on what you want out of the situation working your way up to wwe can either be a blessing or a let down.
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Post by jason1980s on May 30, 2019 20:01:01 GMT -5
I would say just based on having a kiss my ass club would make it a bad environment. If say Marty Jannetty, Jim Ross or Steve Regal refuse the skit, I'm sure they are done. Same goes for a stink face, I'm sure if anyone refused the storyline they would be fired or demoted and demeaned in the locker-room.
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Post by MAD TITAN on May 30, 2019 20:19:17 GMT -5
I liked when Mox/Ambrose said "you want someone to follow lines on a script, hire an actor then" or something to that effect.
Really hit home with their problems. These guys/girls aren't professional actors, that's why wrestling worked best when they're allowed to be themselves with their personality turned to 1000x max.
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