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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 11, 2019 0:54:31 GMT -5
Oubre only got 2/30.
Iโm surprised his market wasnโt bigger. If the Kings didnโt have a plan and could have waited out Phoenix responding to an offer sheet I would have loved going for him. Maybe even above Harrison Barnes.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 2:58:18 GMT -5
Oubre only got 2/30. Iโm surprised his market wasnโt bigger. If the Kings didnโt have a plan and could have waited out Phoenix responding to an offer sheet I would have loved going for him. Maybe even above Harrison Barnes. Cheap does not equal good They know what they are going to get from Barnes and he's been in big games. Kelly has had a few moments in his career but otherwise he's been an inconsistent role player never really breaking out Kings don't need another young experiment, they need a vet (a young one at that) who knows his role and is going to fulfill that nightly. He knows his place on the team and while he may have off and on nights statistically, the shit he does right won't always show in the box scores.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 11, 2019 5:53:09 GMT -5
Oubre only got 2/30. Iโm surprised his market wasnโt bigger. If the Kings didnโt have a plan and could have waited out Phoenix responding to an offer sheet I would have loved going for him. Maybe even above Harrison Barnes. Cheap does not equal good They know what they are going to get from Barnes and he's been in big games. Kelly has had a few moments in his career but otherwise he's been an inconsistent role player never really breaking outย Kings don't need another young experiment, they need a vet (a young one at that) who knows his role and is going to fulfill that nightly. He knows his place on the team and while he may have off and on nights statistically, the shit he does right won't always show in the box scores.ย To be honest, I think Oubre and Barnes are similar but I think Oubre is better defensively, but Barnes is a much better 3-point shooter. Idk, with Hield and Bogdan "Birdman Birdman" Bogdan, I might've gone for Oubre there. He's not even turned 24 yet.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 11, 2019 9:16:44 GMT -5
Cheap does not equal good They know what they are going to get from Barnes and he's been in big games. Kelly has had a few moments in his career but otherwise he's been an inconsistent role player never really breaking outย Kings don't need another young experiment, they need a vet (a young one at that) who knows his role and is going to fulfill that nightly. He knows his place on the team and while he may have off and on nights statistically, the shit he does right won't always show in the box scores.ย To be honest, I think Oubre and Barnes are similar but I think Oubre is better defensively, but Barnes is a much better 3-point shooter. Idk, with Hield and Bogdan "Birdman Birdman" Bogdan, I might've gone for Oubre there. He's not even turned 24 yet. Word. I like the upside. Harrison Barnes is steady AF, you know what youโre getting from him every night. I canโt complain about him one bit, but that seeet sweet PO-tential with Oubre is so tempting.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 9:58:45 GMT -5
Cheap does not equal good They know what they are going to get from Barnes and he's been in big games. Kelly has had a few moments in his career but otherwise he's been an inconsistent role player never really breaking outย Kings don't need another young experiment, they need a vet (a young one at that) who knows his role and is going to fulfill that nightly. He knows his place on the team and while he may have off and on nights statistically, the shit he does right won't always show in the box scores.ย To be honest, I think Oubre and Barnes are similar but I think Oubre is better defensively, but Barnes is a much better 3-point shooter. Idk, with Hield and Bogdan "Birdman Birdman" Bogdan, I might've gone for Oubre there. He's not even turned 24 yet. If they could have got him 2 for $30 then the investment could been worthwhile but considering that was a position of need I donโt see them getting that price Barnes is only 27 but the Kings did overpay for him
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jul 11, 2019 10:18:48 GMT -5
To be honest, I think Oubre and Barnes are similar but I think Oubre is better defensively, but Barnes is a much better 3-point shooter. Idk, with Hield and Bogdan "Birdman Birdman" Bogdan, I might've gone for Oubre there. He's not even turned 24 yet. If they could have got him 2 for $30 then the investment could been worthwhile but considering that was a position of need I donโt see them getting that price Barnes is only 27 but the Kings did overpay for him Not by that much really. They paid roughly the going rate of a good player. Looking at the rest of the SFโs in the league and what theyโre making, the Kings actually did pretty good. Iโd rather have Barnes than a lot of the guys paid more than him... Porter Jr, Broken Heyward, Wiggins, Parsons. Making roughly the same as Evan Turner, Iggy, and Bojan.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 11:01:23 GMT -5
If they could have got him 2 for $30 then the investment could been worthwhile but considering that was a position of need I donโt see them getting that price Barnes is only 27 but the Kings did overpay for him Not by that much really. They paid roughly the going rate of a good player. Looking at the rest of the SFโs in the league and what theyโre making, the Kings actually did pretty good. Iโd rather have Barnes than a lot of the guys paid more than him... Porter Jr, Broken Heyward, Wiggins, Parsons. Making roughly the same as Evan Turner, Iggy, and Bojan. Ehh. Me personally, I would have been more comfortable around $75 million but it is not a massive overpay just a slight one. I like him better at this deal then when Evan Turner got $75 million from Portland or Tim Hardaway Jr getting the same thing from the Knicks It was in the best interest of both Barnes and Kings to get this deal done which is one part of their really good offseason shoring up this team to make a run at the 7th and 8th seed in the West
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 11:15:29 GMT -5
Dwight Howard saying the right things for teams who are questioning whether to bring him in
He said he just wants to win and that's all that matters. Ego is not a factor, he just wants to win
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 11:30:31 GMT -5
Update on the Westbrook to Miami trade
Thunder wants two young players out of the trio of Winslow, Bam Bam, and Herro. They are resistant to trading Herro and love Bam Bam. Miami doesn't own their 2021 and 2023 picks so that could be a holdup but could trade later picks if Thunder wants them
For right now it seems Thunder wants young players and not to take on long term cap. They got a few roadblocks to get through but it in theory could be done at some point during the season if anything.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 11, 2019 17:18:14 GMT -5
Update on the Westbrook to Miami trade Thunder wants two young players out of the trio of Winslow, Bam Bam, and Herro. They are resistant to trading Herro and love Bam Bam. Miami doesn't own their 2021 and 2023 picks so that could be a holdup but could trade later picks if Thunder wants them For right now it seems Thunder wants young players and not to take on long term cap. They got a few roadblocks to get through but it in theory could be done at some point during the season if anything. Miami playing hardball because they know not to mortgage their future for a guy who doesn't have much of a market rn. OKC can just call their bluff, but then they're no closer to their rebuild at all. I could see one of Justise or Herro, but not both and definitely not Adebayo.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 17:38:09 GMT -5
Update on the Westbrook to Miami trade Thunder wants two young players out of the trio of Winslow, Bam Bam, and Herro. They are resistant to trading Herro and love Bam Bam. Miami doesn't own their 2021 and 2023 picks so that could be a holdup but could trade later picks if Thunder wants them For right now it seems Thunder wants young players and not to take on long term cap. They got a few roadblocks to get through but it in theory could be done at some point during the season if anything. Miami playing hardball because they know not to mortgage their future for a guy who doesn't have much of a market rn. OKC can just call their bluff, but then they're no closer to their rebuild at all. I could see one of Justise or Herro, but not both and definitely not Adebayo. Miami doesn't have to go overboard and can play the waiting game Winslow is def the one to go, just a matter of who else gets put with him and Miami can play the waiting game. In a perfect world Miami wants to give up Winslow, Waiters and Johnson and 2 later picks to get Westbrook. Keep in mind, OKC already has the Miami 2021 and 2023 picks thanks to the trade with the Clippers so in theory if they got 2 more picks from them especially if it is something like 2025, you can get recoup value when they are on the downslide potentially
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 19:33:21 GMT -5
Westbrook to Rockets for CP3
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 11, 2019 19:34:22 GMT -5
Trade to Miami didn't happen as Houston swooped in.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 11, 2019 19:34:34 GMT -5
I wanted this trade 10 years ago when Paul was on the Hornets lol
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Post by Tom Turkey on Jul 11, 2019 19:38:53 GMT -5
Westbrook and James Harden are going to have a hell of a time getting along...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 19:42:07 GMT -5
NBA Free Agency is crazy for this one.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 11, 2019 19:46:34 GMT -5
I'm so confused why the Rockets would even want this. If Chris Paul wasn't working in a James Harden-led offense, why the hell would Westbrook be any better? That's an even worse fit, if anything.
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Post by BK From WV on Jul 11, 2019 19:51:31 GMT -5
Man, I love the NBA offseason
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Post by britishbulldog on Jul 11, 2019 19:52:22 GMT -5
Well Houston's no longer a contender.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 11, 2019 20:01:18 GMT -5
Trade to Miami didn't happen as Houston swooped in. From what was said, Presti was playing hard ball and wanted most of the young talent Miami had, so I'm happy Pat didn't go for it. Even if it would've made the Heat more relevant "in the moment" that would've been a terrible decision. Scratching my head how a Harden/Westbrook/D'Antoni team is going to look.
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