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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 25, 2019 10:44:09 GMT -5
Also of note that this is while the XFL is insisting that if you have any criminal history of any kind you can't play there. I see that policy falling to the wayside immediately anyway, because their league would probably be completely decimated of players by the time they finished a season, but still. To be honest the XFL have gone away from that rule being that they where willing to take on Manzel if he fit in to the bill. The XFL would find a way to reanimate Aaron Hernandez if there weren't a bunch of people telling Vince "No"
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 25, 2019 10:46:06 GMT -5
"He was only arrested six years ago!"
Yeah, I'm sure the f***er hasn't driven drunk once in those six years.
Just because you don't get caught doesn't mean you're not out there doing it.
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 25, 2019 10:48:01 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that's what I said. The thing is he did not kill anybody, the end. No. That's not the end. Because he's done it before and gone on to laugh about it. So he doesn't give a f***. He could've hurt someone. There's no indications that he won't go out and do it again. You're hand-waving away what he did and that's abhorrent. I like how you literally just ignored everything else I said immediately after it that would address the issue.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 25, 2019 10:49:25 GMT -5
No more jokes, go get help cause this shit is insane at this point
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 25, 2019 10:49:50 GMT -5
If you’ve been arrested multiple times for DUI there’s a good chance you drive drunk fairly regularly
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Post by BK From WV on Jul 25, 2019 10:52:45 GMT -5
I agree with the people who say he at least deserves a suspension. Suspend him and send him to rehab. Just because he didn't hurt anyone or worse doesn't excuse it. It's not the first time that he's done it and if they don't do something, it probably won't be the last. He needs help so hopefully WWE offers it to him and doesn't just brush it off. If they decide to fire him, I wouldn't blame them but I at least hope they offer him rehab.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 25, 2019 10:53:58 GMT -5
Come on. For one DUI in six years? You can do a small fine ($250,000 is absolutely ridiculous for a guy that doesn't make THAT much) and maybe a small suspension, but firing a dude over this is incredibly stupid. He also probably doesn't need help, one DUI after several years of not having any is not indicative of a problem. His arrest earlier this year was mostly bullshit and that's why charges went away. Any DUI means you have a problem. Bingo. All it takes is driving drunk one time to kill someone. It doesn't really matter if the last one was 6 years ago, that's behavior that needs more than a slap on the wrist.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 25, 2019 10:54:18 GMT -5
I get WWE probably can't legally force anyone to go to rehab, but short of firing Jimmy, is there anything they can do to get him to clean up his act? I doubt fining him is going to do shit. Zero tolerance policy. Until we look into this you’re suspended 60 Days on your first offense. 2nd offense is 6 months and losing a portion of your pay. 3rd offense you’re fired Uso’s got no excuse, they have made money so even if you’re not at your bus territory, hire a damn family member just to give you around on the road but something got to give
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jul 25, 2019 10:57:54 GMT -5
When I got a first time dui a couple years ago I had to pay about 9-10000 total when it came to court costs/lawyers/classes ect. That was about a third of what I took home after taxes. A second time one is way more strict and would f*** up a regular persons life with the license revocation and all that (atleast in Illinois). Someone like Jimmy won’t have to deal with the same hardship as a regular citizen, so I do think he needs to be suspended, put in rehab, and maybe fined like 50k? Depending on how much he makes maybe more
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 25, 2019 11:00:02 GMT -5
No. That's not the end. Because he's done it before and gone on to laugh about it. So he doesn't give a f***. He could've hurt someone. There's no indications that he won't go out and do it again. You're hand-waving away what he did and that's abhorrent. I like how you literally just ignored everything else I said immediately after it that would address the issue. It doesn't matter what you said after "the end", because the connotation is that's your case, "no one got hurt so what's the big deal!" It's also in total contradiction of what you said about 17 minutes earlier than that, "He probably doesn't need any help because the last time it happened was six years ago and mostly bullshit". You want to hand-wave this away because, I don't f***ing know, you like him or whatever. And that's abhorrent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 11:03:15 GMT -5
he needs an intervention
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 25, 2019 11:06:53 GMT -5
*sigh*
Damn it, Jimmy.
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Post by abjordans on Jul 25, 2019 11:09:48 GMT -5
When you hear him talk, it seems he justifies it that he isn’t an everyday, al day drinker- so he isn’t an alcoholic with a drinking problem. However, is compulsion to just behind the wheel after drinking is a serious problem and not even excusable in the days of Uber and Lyft. He needs to get this in check before he kills himself or some innocent person.
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Post by abjordans on Jul 25, 2019 11:11:42 GMT -5
Come on. For one DUI in six years? You can do a small fine ($250,000 is absolutely ridiculous for a guy that doesn't make THAT much) and maybe a small suspension, but firing a dude over this is incredibly stupid. He also probably doesn't need help, one DUI after several years of not having any is not indicative of a problem. His arrest earlier this year was mostly bullshit and that's why charges went away. Someone could have died and it's not the first time he's taken that risk. Get rid of him. While we're on the subject Jeff Hardy should've been fired last month for the same reason. But, Jeff Hardy put no one in danger but himself? Comparing the two situations is kind of crazy, Jeff fell asleep on some stairs at the beach, it REALLY wasn’t that big of a deal.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 25, 2019 11:15:06 GMT -5
Drunk since! Day one ish! Seriously though, fire this asshat at this point. Come on. For one DUI in six years? You can do a small fine ($250,000 is absolutely ridiculous for a guy that doesn't make THAT much) and maybe a small suspension, but firing a dude over this is incredibly stupid. He also probably doesn't need help, one DUI after several years of not having any is not indicative of a problem. His arrest earlier this year was mostly bullshit and that's why charges went away. Driving a car while drunk suggests not taking the safety of others seriously, including those in your vehicle with you. Given wrestling is about trusting others with your safety, I definitely wouldn't want to wrestle this Uso if they have multiple DUIs.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 25, 2019 11:18:02 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that's what I said. The thing is he did not kill anybody, the end. No. That's not the end. Because he's done it before and gone on to laugh about it. So he doesn't give a f***. He could've hurt someone. There's no indications that he won't go out and do it again. You're hand-waving away what he did and that's abhorrent. Yup, driving Drunk is a completely awful things to do. Just because he didn't hurt anyone doesn't mean he couldn't. It is a complete disregard of people's safety.I completely believe that by the second DUI(if not the first)you should lose your license.
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Post by Venti on Jul 25, 2019 11:23:43 GMT -5
In the age of Uber/Lyft at the click of a button, there's no excuse to get behind the wheel
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 25, 2019 11:24:44 GMT -5
I like how you literally just ignored everything else I said immediately after it that would address the issue. It doesn't matter what you said after "the end", because the connotation is that's your case, "no one got hurt so what's the big deal!" It's also in total contradiction of what you said about 17 minutes earlier than that, "He probably doesn't need any help because the last time it happened was six years ago and mostly bullshit". You want to hand-wave this away because, I don't f***ing know, you like him or whatever. And that's abhorrent. It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 25, 2019 11:28:06 GMT -5
It doesn't matter what you said after "the end", because the connotation is that's your case, "no one got hurt so what's the big deal!" It's also in total contradiction of what you said about 17 minutes earlier than that, "He probably doesn't need any help because the last time it happened was six years ago and mostly bullshit". You want to hand-wave this away because, I don't f***ing know, you like him or whatever. And that's abhorrent. It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension. But he could kill someone due to stupidity getting on the road in that condition. It absolutely deserves to be focused on because the road is dangerous enough sober, doing that shit impaired and him being a multiple time offender means every time he does that shit it puts his life and others on the road in danger I’m pretty sure no one on the roster would trust their body to him in the ring drunk and he f***s up a move and badly hurts them and the same can be applied to others on the road and not driving f***ed up Bottom line is he needs to get his shit together
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Post by Venti on Jul 25, 2019 11:32:57 GMT -5
I don't think they should fire the dude, but a hefty fine and suspension to teach him and others in the company that drunk driving is not to be tolerated.
If I were in charge, I'd handle it a bit like wellness violations, but stricter.
Strike one, 60 days out plus a fine. Strike two, you're gone.
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