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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 25, 2019 11:35:26 GMT -5
It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension. "He's just a dumbass" Yeah, you know how you prevent someone from being a dumbass? You punish them so severely that the cost of being a dumbass is catastrophic. Fining him $250,000 for each offense from here on out would easily prevent that.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Jul 25, 2019 11:36:53 GMT -5
So, the Usos are winning the titles Monday night?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 25, 2019 11:42:00 GMT -5
WWE should really take action about this. He is a way from being a Kurt Angle, but maybe they should nip this bud while they can. I mean, they should... But if they fire him, he might go to AEW so... So bench him then. Taking him off of the road and TV means he just makes his downside guarantee and kills his momentum. That could be considered a serious enough punishment if they stick to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 11:43:13 GMT -5
It doesn't matter what you said after "the end", because the connotation is that's your case, "no one got hurt so what's the big deal!" It's also in total contradiction of what you said about 17 minutes earlier than that, "He probably doesn't need any help because the last time it happened was six years ago and mostly bullshit". You want to hand-wave this away because, I don't f***ing know, you like him or whatever. And that's abhorrent. It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension. The Heartbreak TWERKSome GuyKnock it off with taking shots at each other. Either discuss this in a civil manner or stop talking to each other. If you can't, feel free to stop posting in this thread.
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 25, 2019 11:49:28 GMT -5
It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension. "He's just a dumbass" Yeah, you know how you prevent someone from being a dumbass? You punish them so severely that the cost of being a dumbass is catastrophic. Fining him $250,000 for each offense from here on out would easily prevent that. But this comes around to a labor issue, and how WWE managing fines that high isn't exactly something I'd trust to see. And it's an intense level of punishment that you'd have to do across the board, which is explicitly not manageable. If you want to fine them say 10% of their yearly salary to a charity of their choosing or something, then sure go ahead and do that. As well as a month suspension and ensuring they don't drive for like a year. This is much easier with Jimmy Uso given that his wife is around, and he has other good friends besides his brother. And again, I could be completely wrong to the point that he has a serious alcohol problem/needs rehab. In that case, you can suspend him and work with him on the problem to help him get better in the best way possible. Not sure how the fine would work in that case, though.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 25, 2019 11:50:27 GMT -5
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Post by dbrussel on Jul 25, 2019 12:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jul 25, 2019 13:17:58 GMT -5
It doesn't matter what you said after "the end", because the connotation is that's your case, "no one got hurt so what's the big deal!" It's also in total contradiction of what you said about 17 minutes earlier than that, "He probably doesn't need any help because the last time it happened was six years ago and mostly bullshit". You want to hand-wave this away because, I don't f***ing know, you like him or whatever. And that's abhorrent. It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension. meaww.com/dad-shares-heartbreaking-images-funeral-dead-wife-unborn-child-killed-accident-intoxicated-driverIt's exactly the thing we should be focused on. Your takes on this are terrible, You seem to be utterly missing the point that he very very easily could have, The fact he didn't only comes from the fact he was pulled over before anything could happen. I have to wonder what would he have to do for you to start thinking he has an issue? and why are you so invested in defending dangerous, irresponsible behavior?
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 25, 2019 13:31:57 GMT -5
Don't they have a wellness policy to address such things? Uce's got a problem and he needs to get it addressed before he does this again and someone else gets hurt.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 25, 2019 13:42:34 GMT -5
I’m guessing the guy probably makes six figures. Pay for a f***ing Uber.
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Post by freeze Austin on Jul 25, 2019 13:45:40 GMT -5
If you're still drunk driving in 2019 then I don't know what to say. It's like still being a racist or homophobe or any other type of bigot.
Grow up. Stop being a shithead and putting other peoples lives in danger just because it makes you feel good.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Jul 25, 2019 13:59:38 GMT -5
Don't they have a wellness policy to address such things? Uce's got a problem and he needs to get it addressed before he does this again and someone else gets hurt. They do have an alcohol policy, but I’m not sure how it would apply to drinking and driving. If I’m reading it correctly, WWE’s rules only cover the consumption of alcohol immediately before a live event, and the fine would only come if alcohol was found in a test administered by WWE.
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Post by Fade on Jul 25, 2019 14:20:12 GMT -5
That’s disgusting.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 25, 2019 14:26:23 GMT -5
If you're still drunk driving in 2019 then I don't know what to say. It's like still being a racist or homophobe or any other type of bigot. Grow up. Stop being a shithead and putting other peoples lives in danger just because it makes you feel good. Hell, drinking period should probably be done away with because it makes one's organs less useful should they be needed to be transplanted into someone else.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 25, 2019 14:31:33 GMT -5
If you're still drunk driving in 2019 then I don't know what to say. It's like still being a racist or homophobe or any other type of bigot. Grow up. Stop being a shithead and putting other peoples lives in danger just because it makes you feel good. Hell, drinking period should probably be done away with because it makes one's organs less useful should they be needed to be transplanted into someone else. Lets avoid going to a political direction. But I can say: yeh,good luck getting drinking banned there would be riots at the very least .
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 25, 2019 14:37:52 GMT -5
No more jokes, go get help cause this shit is insane at this point Seriously. We've seen too many wrestlers go down this path.
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Post by KofiMania on Jul 25, 2019 14:54:48 GMT -5
It was an end to THAT specific point. People want to rush to "HE COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY" when he didn't, and that's not the thing that should be focused on. I'm not hand-waving shit away, I just think this maximum punishment shit people want to seek for everything is stupid as hell. And I said his earlier arrest this year was mostly bullshit, so again, try to get something right when quoting me. I think he's just a dumbass when it comes to realizing his alcohol levels, but if he has an actual problem, the issue sure as hell isn't firing him and hoping for the best. That's why having his brother/wife in the company helps manage the issue, as does suspending his license/doing a small suspension. "He's just a dumbass" Yeah, you know how you prevent someone from being a dumbass? You punish them so severely that the cost of being a dumbass is catastrophic. Fining him $250,000 for each offense from here on out would easily prevent that. Criminal justice system should take care of this, not the employer.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 25, 2019 14:58:04 GMT -5
"He's just a dumbass" Yeah, you know how you prevent someone from being a dumbass? You punish them so severely that the cost of being a dumbass is catastrophic. Fining him $250,000 for each offense from here on out would easily prevent that. Criminal justice system should take care of this, not the employer. He's rich, he'll pay his way out of this every single time. Hurt his bank account as severely as $250,000 per offense, he won't do it anymore.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jul 25, 2019 14:58:14 GMT -5
WWE should really take action about this. He is a way from being a Kurt Angle, but maybe they should nip this bud while they can. I mean, they should... But if they fire him, he might go to AEW so... You know the f***ed up thing here? WWE will continue to employ him, maybe fine and/or suspend him, and that'll be about it. Worst that will happen is that he sits at home and still makes money. No one learns anything, and it'll happen again. This is a company he has worked for his entire career, where his family has more history than anyone not named "McMahon", and they just don't give a shit because money. If they were to release him, the first thing AEW, a company he has no real ties with outside of knowing a couple guys from years ago, would tell him is "Don't call us until you're clean and sober."
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 25, 2019 15:04:27 GMT -5
Drunk since! Day one ish! Seriously though, fire this asshat at this point. Come on. For one DUI in six years? You can do a small fine ($250,000 is absolutely ridiculous for a guy that doesn't make THAT much) and maybe a small suspension, but firing a dude over this is incredibly stupid. He also probably doesn't need help, one DUI after several years of not having any is not indicative of a problem. His arrest earlier this year was mostly bullshit and that's why charges went away. I like how you say "one DUI in six years" like that's supposed to be an accomplishment. Fact is, he's had three this decade. When you say it like that, it doesn't sound so sparkly. And bare in mind, these are just the times he's been caught.
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