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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 12, 2019 16:19:02 GMT -5
So now that the G1 is over, we are now on the road to WK with 4 months to see how things pan out and where the pieces may fall into place. What do you think will be on the card? We got two nights to fill so there will be plenty of non title matches on the card
IWGP HW Championship: Okada(C) vs Ibushi IC Title: Naito(C) vs Jay White U.S Championship: TBA assuming Mox drops the title soon NEVER: Ishii vs Shingo vs Taichi Tag Titles: GoD vs LIJ (Yes again) Junior Tag: RPG 3K vs BC Junior Title: Will Ospreay vs Hiromu Takahashi (if he is cleared) or Dragon Lee Tanahashi Vs Jericho (Think that is still on the table) KENTA vs Shibata (assuming he gets cleared) Suzuki vs Liger
And still more matches to fill out
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Post by Convoy on Aug 12, 2019 17:22:15 GMT -5
Pretty much what you said. Though I'm curious how they will split the two nights of WK.
At first, I thought 1/4 would be the main card and 1/5 would be a Super NYD, but I've heard rumblings in Japan lately that 1/6 will hold NYD in Korakuen.
One idea I loved was 1/4 being WK proper, and the next night ending with Liger's final bout. Not sure if New Japan would do that versus having Okada/Ibushi stand tall to end the night.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 12, 2019 17:52:03 GMT -5
If that’s the card running two dome shows isn’t necessary.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 12, 2019 18:02:57 GMT -5
If that’s the card running two dome shows isn’t necessary. They got a little bit of a task to fill both days and their is the potential to be a lot more filler matches Instead of 6 man matches we might see a little more one on ones which may be good or bad
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 12, 2019 18:04:28 GMT -5
If that’s the card running two dome shows isn’t necessary. They got a little bit of a task to fill both days and their is the potential to be a lot more filler matches Instead of 6 man matches we might see a little more one on ones which may be good or bad I have no doubt they’re doing double duty and going to try and surprise people but the card you listed can be done in one day given how long they have been giving WK recently.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 12, 2019 18:07:58 GMT -5
They got a little bit of a task to fill both days and their is the potential to be a lot more filler matches Instead of 6 man matches we might see a little more one on ones which may be good or bad I have no doubt they’re doing double duty and going to try and surprise people but the card you listed can be done in one day given how long they have been giving WK recently. Well in my defense I did by there is more to come before finishing the post lol
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 12, 2019 18:17:17 GMT -5
I have no doubt they’re doing double duty and going to try and surprise people but the card you listed can be done in one day given how long they have been giving WK recently. Well in my defense I did by there is more to come before finishing the post lol Nah not knocking your predictions, just saying that doing two worthwhile days is looking pretty daunting if you can fit that card into one. That’s why I think guys are definitely doing double duty
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 12, 2019 18:19:53 GMT -5
Well in my defense I did by there is more to come before finishing the post lol Nah not knocking your predictions, just saying that doing two worthwhile days is looking pretty daunting if you can fit that card into one. That’s why I think guys are definitely doing double duty I can see them doing it like the G1 to an extent, some "pre show" antics with tag matches or whatever that sets the stage for tomorrows match if they wanted to go that route If Naito did win the G1, something like him defending the title Night 1 and then coming back to face Okada day 2 would have been a possibility as well
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Aug 12, 2019 19:07:45 GMT -5
My prediction is...
It will happen indoors.
Pretty sure I'll be right on this.
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Post by corndog on Aug 12, 2019 21:23:04 GMT -5
Pretty much what you said. Though I'm curious how they will split the two nights of WK. At first, I thought 1/4 would be the main card and 1/5 would be a Super NYD, but I've heard rumblings in Japan lately that 1/6 will hold NYD in Korakuen. One idea I loved was 1/4 being WK proper, and the next night ending with Liger's final bout. Not sure if New Japan would do that versus having Okada/Ibushi stand tall to end the night. My understanding was last year there were 25 to 30 thousand people who requested tickets for New Year's Dash, so they just decided to hold New Year's Dash at the Tokyo Dome.
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 12, 2019 22:20:01 GMT -5
Day 1:
Me vs Tanahashi
Day 2
Tanahashi vs Me
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 13, 2019 16:01:56 GMT -5
The IGWP title changes hands in some capacity. Okada does not leave WK the champion.
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Post by Convoy on Aug 13, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -5
The IGWP title changes hands in some capacity. Okada does not leave WK the champion. Yeah, I’m thinking he’s lucky to make it past the first night. I know people want Naito to have his moment, but I’d love Ibushi to hold both belts after 1/5.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 13, 2019 16:44:46 GMT -5
I'll go for the gusto and say the last four men standing in the G1 will do almost a mini-tournament of sorts, with Naito defending the IC belt against White and Okada defending against Ibushi on night one, then the winners having a winner-take-all match on night two.
Crazy? Sure, probably, but hey, Kota's teasing it, so why not.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2019 16:50:50 GMT -5
I'll go for the gusto and say the last four men standing in the G1 will do almost a mini-tournament of sorts, with Naito defending the IC belt against White and Okada defending against Ibushi on night one, then the winners having a winner-take-all match on night two. Crazy? Sure, probably, but hey, Kota's teasing it, so why not. Which would be the most interesting option Naito has been saying all year he wants to be the first guy to hold the IC and IWGP HW title. Would make sense for all parties involved given their current motivations. White would sneak himself into the picture thanks to Gedo and would be his way to starting the Switchblade era, Okada is saying f*** it i'' fight whoever, Naito with his previous motivation and Ibushi being crazy enough to throw it out there
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 13, 2019 17:12:38 GMT -5
I'll go for the gusto and say the last four men standing in the G1 will do almost a mini-tournament of sorts, with Naito defending the IC belt against White and Okada defending against Ibushi on night one, then the winners having a winner-take-all match on night two. Crazy? Sure, probably, but hey, Kota's teasing it, so why not. Which would be the most interesting option Naito has been saying all year he wants to be the first guy to hold the IC and IWGP HW title. Would make sense for all parties involved given their current motivations. White would sneak himself into the picture thanks to Gedo and would be his way to starting the Switchblade era, Okada is saying f*** it i'' fight whoever, Naito with his previous motivation and Ibushi being crazy enough to throw it out there Yeah, Okada's said before, basically, that he's sick of hearing about Naito's destiny and wants him to shut up, Ibushi's a nut and might want to revenge his losing the IC title to begin with, and Jay's got everything to gain and nothing to lose, really. It'd also be a good way of showing new fans "These are the four pillars of the company going forward", though you also have your Tanahashis and potentially your SANADAs bringing up the rear, and now also perhaps KENTA.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 13, 2019 21:39:26 GMT -5
Which would be the most interesting option Naito has been saying all year he wants to be the first guy to hold the IC and IWGP HW title. Would make sense for all parties involved given their current motivations. White would sneak himself into the picture thanks to Gedo and would be his way to starting the Switchblade era, Okada is saying f*** it i'' fight whoever, Naito with his previous motivation and Ibushi being crazy enough to throw it out there Yeah, Okada's said before, basically, that he's sick of hearing about Naito's destiny and wants him to shut up, Ibushi's a nut and might want to revenge his losing the IC title to begin with, and Jay's got everything to gain and nothing to lose, really. It'd also be a good way of showing new fans "These are the four pillars of the company going forward", though you also have your Tanahashis and potentially your SANADAs bringing up the rear, and now also perhaps KENTA. You just beat me to it: with Tana likely beginning his slow process of stepping back from the top spots, putting Okada/Naito/White/Ibushi into such an angle would be a way of fully affirming that this is the new "big four" of the promotion for the next few years. If it does come to pass then the possibility will get some Naito fans happy again, but then the dread will set in as they figure "Gedo will definitely want Okada to win out in that kind of situation." But I'd sure be willing to find out! Now, assuming something like this goes down, that really does open up the field for what the other major names will be doing, since that would account for the top two titles, leaving NEVER, US, Jr., and all the tag belts for championship matches, and the possibility of multiple feud matches (instead of the usual one non-title match at WK) since we'll have two nights. I agree that Suzuki vs. Liger feels likely, but also figure there's a chance that over two nights there might be a RevPro and/or ROH title match thrown in, depending on who the champions are. I've been pretty loudly throwing money on Ishii vs. Shingo happening for the NEVER title, though I wonder if KENTA will win that belt to open up him fighting Goto for Shibata's honor? Both of those guys will have something of note in line for the show, I'm sure. Also not predicting this will happen, but man I'd be happy if one of the nights gave us GoD vs. Suzuki/Sabre for the tag titles, partly because I love when BC and SG fight, and also because the tag division needs. Here's a prediction that's tough to make at the moment: who fights for the US title? Not sure if Moxley will be very available once AEW's weekly show gets going, feel like Archer's going to get a shot sooner or later, but figure Juice will still be the man on that front as of January, so I'm really not sure. Let's not forget maybe the best news of all, of course: with two nights, you have to think we'll be able to have the New Japan Rumble AND the NEVER 6 man gauntlet matches between each show. Everybody wins!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2019 21:45:07 GMT -5
Yeah, Okada's said before, basically, that he's sick of hearing about Naito's destiny and wants him to shut up, Ibushi's a nut and might want to revenge his losing the IC title to begin with, and Jay's got everything to gain and nothing to lose, really. It'd also be a good way of showing new fans "These are the four pillars of the company going forward", though you also have your Tanahashis and potentially your SANADAs bringing up the rear, and now also perhaps KENTA. You just beat me to it: with Tana likely beginning his slow process of stepping back from the top spots, putting Okada/Naito/White/Ibushi into such an angle would be a way of fully affirming that this is the new "big four" of the promotion for the next few years. If it does come to pass then the possibility will get some Naito fans happy again, but then the dread will set in as they figure "Gedo will definitely want Okada to win out in that kind of situation." But I'd sure be willing to find out! Now, assuming something like this goes down, that really does open up the field for what the other major names will be doing, since that would account for the top two titles, leaving NEVER, US, Jr., and all the tag belts for championship matches, and the possibility of multiple feud matches (instead of the usual one non-title match at WK) since we'll have two nights. I agree that Suzuki vs. Liger feels likely, but also figure there's a chance that over two nights there might be a RevPro and/or ROH title match thrown in, depending on who the champions are. I've been pretty loudly throwing money on Ishii vs. Shingo happening for the NEVER title, though I wonder if KENTA will win that belt to open up him fighting Goto for Shibata's honor? Both of those guys will have something of note in line for the show, I'm sure. Also not predicting this will happen, but man I'd be happy if one of the nights gave us GoD vs. Suzuki/Sabre for the tag titles, partly because I love when BC and SG fight, and also because the tag division needs. Here's a prediction that's tough to make at the moment: who fights for the US title? Not sure if Moxley will be very available once AEW's weekly show gets going, feel like Archer's going to get a shot sooner or later, but figure Juice will still be the man on that front as of January, so I'm really not sure. Let's not forget maybe the best news of all, of course: with two nights, you have to think we'll be able to have the New Japan Rumble AND the NEVER 6 man gauntlet matches between each show. Everybody wins! Yea, U.S. title is up in the air as I put in the beginning, I couldn't even make a prediction for it until we know if Mox is dropping it or not. If Juice does win it again, maybe we get him vs Taichi or even SANADA or EVIL since they need something to do if they aren't fighting GoD again Juice vs Archer wouldn't be a bad bet either
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 13, 2019 21:47:50 GMT -5
Yeah, Okada's said before, basically, that he's sick of hearing about Naito's destiny and wants him to shut up, Ibushi's a nut and might want to revenge his losing the IC title to begin with, and Jay's got everything to gain and nothing to lose, really. It'd also be a good way of showing new fans "These are the four pillars of the company going forward", though you also have your Tanahashis and potentially your SANADAs bringing up the rear, and now also perhaps KENTA. You just beat me to it: with Tana likely beginning his slow process of stepping back from the top spots, putting Okada/Naito/White/Ibushi into such an angle would be a way of fully affirming that this is the new "big four" of the promotion for the next few years. If it does come to pass then the possibility will get some Naito fans happy again, but then the dread will set in as they figure "Gedo will definitely want Okada to win out in that kind of situation." But I'd sure be willing to find out! Now, assuming something like this goes down, that really does open up the field for what the other major names will be doing, since that would account for the top two titles, leaving NEVER, US, Jr., and all the tag belts for championship matches, and the possibility of multiple feud matches (instead of the usual one non-title match at WK) since we'll have two nights. I agree that Suzuki vs. Liger feels likely, but also figure there's a chance that over two nights there might be a RevPro and/or ROH title match thrown in, depending on who the champions are. I've been pretty loudly throwing money on Ishii vs. Shingo happening for the NEVER title, though I wonder if KENTA will win that belt to open up him fighting Goto for Shibata's honor? Both of those guys will have something of note in line for the show, I'm sure. Also not predicting this will happen, but man I'd be happy if one of the nights gave us GoD vs. Suzuki/Sabre for the tag titles, partly because I love when BC and SG fight, and also because the tag division needs. Here's a prediction that's tough to make at the moment: who fights for the US title? Not sure if Moxley will be very available once AEW's weekly show gets going, feel like Archer's going to get a shot sooner or later, but figure Juice will still be the man on that front as of January, so I'm really not sure. Let's not forget maybe the best news of all, of course: with two nights, you have to think we'll be able to have the New Japan Rumble AND the NEVER 6 man gauntlet matches between each show. Everybody wins! Sabre teaming with Archer if he's free would be amusing in terms of seeing if they can play nice after their tension in the G1, or something like Sabre and Taichi teaming, so you get a possible taste of what's to come if what some suspect comes to pass and both feel like Suzuki-Gun should go to them. ZSJ seems like the heir apparent, and he's probably the overall top guy under Suzuki, but Taichi's been gaining ground, is getting quite popular, and has been making devious moves like getting the Iron Fingers, he'd have DOUKI and maybe Kanemaru backing his candidacy, and you have the feud with Ishii where Ishii has said Taichi doesn't need his gimmicks as a crutch, which may be hinting at them trying to have him evolve further. Then again, it could just as easily be nothing major, or even something like Taichi turning face and leaving Suzuki-Gun, to form his own faction or fly solo. Could see him and Sabre having distrust either way.
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Post by clifford on Aug 14, 2019 7:27:54 GMT -5
Tag Titles: GoD vs LIJ (Yes again) I'm praying the World Tag League gives us some fresh teams in the Heavyweight Tag Division. It's so awful. If EVIL & SANADA can't get singles matches over a 2 day Tokyo Dome show in 2020, then I dunno what's the point of them even being in singles competition.
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