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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2019 3:33:40 GMT -5
A memorable Lex fact for me is him having an autobiography with about 10% wrestling in it, despite being a famous wrestler. I didn't buy your book to read about football and Jesus! If you played football with Jesus, you'd wanna brag about it, too.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2019 3:40:32 GMT -5
Lex Luger had sex with the Parasite.
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Post by efarns on Aug 26, 2019 11:01:46 GMT -5
Lex is a guy who demonstrates the greatness of Hulk Hogan. Both had the look and the push, but Hogan transcended the business, while Lex never quite made it to the top of the card.
Also, I always like to mention that Luger lost some mobility after his motorcycle accident. His ring work from WWF forward was never as good as his earlier matches.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 26, 2019 11:31:17 GMT -5
Sadly, Luger is the wrestling equivalent of a coach killer. A guy that seemingly had all the tools except whatever innate "It" factor to make him a mega draw. In kayfabe I would think his legacy is being a big match choker as well, in multiple companies no less. It's rare that a guy had bogus world title finishes in two different companies. It's actually quite amazing how bad his WWF run was, isn't it? He didn't win a single title of any kind. Hell, he and Bulldog never even won the tag titles in a really weak 1995 tag division.
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Post by nate5054 on Aug 26, 2019 11:38:30 GMT -5
His legacy will always be the Lex Express to me.
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Post by efarns on Aug 27, 2019 7:23:49 GMT -5
Greater or lesser than Davey Boy Smith?
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Aug 27, 2019 8:00:55 GMT -5
He’s great but should be legendary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 14:10:03 GMT -5
Sadly, Luger is the wrestling equivalent of a coach killer. A guy that seemingly had all the tools except whatever innate "It" factor to make him a mega draw. In kayfabe I would think his legacy is being a big match choker as well, in multiple companies no less. It's rare that a guy had bogus world title finishes in two different companies. It's actually quite amazing how bad his WWF run was, isn't it? He didn't win a single title of any kind. Hell, he and Bulldog never even won the tag titles in a really weak 1995 tag division.Which was weird because he *was* over and could've bolstered the IC and tag divisions. Seems like an early example of Vince's "if you fail at the top you ain't worth shit" mentality.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 27, 2019 14:13:55 GMT -5
See I think it goes more into the category of a guy being "above" the IC or tag titles so he never won either, but in the end it made him an even bigger choker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 14:25:22 GMT -5
See I think it goes more into the category of a guy being "above" the IC or tag titles so he never won either, but in the end it made him an even bigger choker. Too bad either way, cause the IC title was pretty hot in 93-95 and he'd have fit in perfectly. Razor and JJ did some good stuff but it did get to a point where it seemed like they were only fighting each other.
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Post by hassanchop on Aug 27, 2019 14:49:27 GMT -5
Sadly, Luger is the wrestling equivalent of a coach killer. A guy that seemingly had all the tools except whatever innate "It" factor to make him a mega draw. In kayfabe I would think his legacy is being a big match choker as well, in multiple companies no less. It's rare that a guy had bogus world title finishes in two different companies. It's actually quite amazing how bad his WWF run was, isn't it? He didn't win a single title of any kind. Hell, he and Bulldog never even won the tag titles in a really weak 1995 tag division. I heard they were supposed to face Owen and Yoko at Summerslam 95, but because of the low morale they just put the Harris Twins and Smoking Gunns match.
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 27, 2019 16:34:42 GMT -5
Greater or lesser than Davey Boy Smith? I think Bulldog is seen as someone could have done much more and is much more popular than Lex. Lex is seen as someone much less talented who couldn't achieve on his own without company promotion and when the company did put him over the top he just couldn't make it. I think Bulldog is also seen as more popular because he passed and also was kind of cut down in his prime thanks to the Warrior trap door. And of course he has ties with the Hart Foundation that usually bumps a person up some. I think if most fans had to choose between watching a Bulldog match or Lex, almost all fans would chose Bulldog.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2019 16:38:00 GMT -5
he wanted to be our HEEEERO
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2019 16:41:44 GMT -5
His legacy will always be the Lex Express to me. People (including me) joke about this... but the Lex Express stuff did actually get him over. The problem was Vince decided HEY WE COULD EXTEND THIS TO WRESTLEMANIA! so they had him celebrate winning by countout like a goon. when in reality he should be pissed off.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2019 16:48:19 GMT -5
His legacy will always be the Lex Express to me. People (including me) joke about this... but the Lex Express stuff did actually get him over. The problem was Vince decided HEY WE COULD EXTEND THIS TO WRESTLEMANIA! so they had him celebrate winning by countout like a goon. when in reality he should be pissed off. Right, and it's not like Yoko was Ric Flair or something. He's not the kind of guy you could have a dynamic, long feud with, really. You want Cornette or Fuji to f*** Lex over on a rematch, that'd be fine, but Lex was either a cocky heel or a superhero face in his toolbox. He was not the valiant underdog who could lead a campaign of war against the wily heel.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Aug 27, 2019 16:51:30 GMT -5
500 Year's from now his Wikipedia will read
American Patriot who slammed a 700 pound Sumo Wrestler to help America win WW2 on Yankee Doodle's Birthday,threw all his popularity away to betray Sting
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 27, 2019 16:51:38 GMT -5
I think Luger's legacy suffers from the fact that other permanent number 2 talents that never quite got the sustained main event push had really strong in ring or promo skills that left them the favorite in a lot people's minds. Lex could have some great matches with the right people, but was never known as a strong worker and simply lacked outstanding mic work for most of his career to boot. He always had great look, and his babyface stuff from fall 96 to fall 97 is fantastic, but its hard not to examine his career work as a heel not as good as Flair, a babyface worker not as good as Bret or Sting, and as a muscled superman type not as popular as Hogan.
Thus as opposed to being an outright mega icon he's instead one of the biggest legends-stars ever this... gah!
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 27, 2019 16:55:09 GMT -5
Would you say he was Sheamus-esque then? That's a pretty apt approximation, yeah. It almost works, but to me, Sheamus never rose as high as Luger and Luger likewise never fell as low as Sheamus, except maybe near the end of his career from 2000 onward.
Luger was always seen as a main event top guy who was in contention for the world title. If you weren't watching WWE during one of Sheamus' pushes, you'd never know he was anything more than a mid-carder with a brawling gimmick/tag team specialist type.
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Post by ANuclearError on Aug 27, 2019 17:02:36 GMT -5
He always had great look, and his babyface stuff from fall 96 to fall 97 is fantastic, but its hard not to examine his career work as a heel not as good as Flair, a babyface worker not as good as Bret or Sting, and as a muscled superman type not as popular as Hogan. That's perhaps why he was able to have the face run he had in that period. Hogan was now heel and surfer Sting had died, so Lex could have a clear spot as one of the top faces without being outshined by those who did in the past.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 27, 2019 17:09:33 GMT -5
He always had great look, and his babyface stuff from fall 96 to fall 97 is fantastic, but its hard not to examine his career work as a heel not as good as Flair, a babyface worker not as good as Bret or Sting, and as a muscled superman type not as popular as Hogan. That's perhaps why he was able to have the face run he had in that period. Hogan was now heel and surfer Sting had died, so Lex could have a clear spot as one of the top faces without being outshined by those who did in the past. Makes sense given that the closest competition he had were recent babyfaces DDP and the Giant both of whom were very over in 97 against the nWo but were not presented with the sustained main focus like Lex was and had to catch up with the momentum Luger already had in the last few months of 1996.
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