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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 27, 2019 12:21:55 GMT -5
This is one of those things where I'm shocked it hasn't always been a standard from every company who can afford it.
Good on them.
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 27, 2019 12:45:13 GMT -5
Impact immediately cancels all live events
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Post by cjh on Aug 27, 2019 13:52:32 GMT -5
Impact immediately cancels all live events In all seriousness, though, this doesn't really tell us anything. Guys like Sting and Lex Luger were making about $750,000/yr. in WCW in the early-1990s when the company was losing a few million every single year and had never been profitable. Anthem could just be willing to run it at a loss right now.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2019 13:55:36 GMT -5
The fact that Impact, of all f***ing companies, is leading the way on this is blowing my mind. So long as I have been booked or under contract from ROH (mid 2014), we have had trans and hotel covered. I'm glad to see the trend continuing. I somehow keep forgetting you post here, so it startles me every time.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Aug 27, 2019 14:14:11 GMT -5
Not surprised Impact does something good and people find a way to crap on them.
But hey good on Impact for doing this. The past year Impact has moved up and become my 3rd favorite fed. They got a good roster,have good matches. And all the PPVs are worth watching.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 27, 2019 14:42:52 GMT -5
Not surprised Impact does something good and people find a way to crap on them. officialfan.proboards.com/thread/590913/impact-killer-kross-updateIt's good that Impact is covering hotel costs now, but as I posted in the above link, they need to sort out the whole deal with Kross because he clearly wants to be elsewhere right now, especially since they granted his girlfriend's release.
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Post by ianriccaboni on Aug 27, 2019 14:57:39 GMT -5
So long as I have been booked or under contract from ROH (mid 2014), we have had trans and hotel covered. I'm glad to see the trend continuing. I somehow keep forgetting you post here, so it startles me every time. No worries! Long-time since WC days. Rejoined only recently.
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Aug 27, 2019 15:00:36 GMT -5
Not surprised Impact does something good and people find a way to crap on them. They kinda earn it every single time
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Aug 27, 2019 15:06:17 GMT -5
Not surprised Impact does something good and people find a way to crap on them. They kinda earn it every single time How so in this situation. Impact is paying for hotels. WHich is something WWE rarely does. So why crap on them for that? How did IMpact Kinda earn it this time? And yes I know there is a part of the IWC that will always crap on Impact.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Aug 27, 2019 16:22:54 GMT -5
They kinda earn it every single time How so in this situation. Impact is paying for hotels. WHich is something WWE rarely does. So why crap on them for that? How did IMpact Kinda earn it this time? And yes I know there is a part of the IWC that will always crap on Impact. No one is crapping on them for paying for workers hotels. People are crapping on their handling of the situation with Kross. You could argue that it doesn’t need to be brought up here since there is a topic on it, but I haven’t seen anyone bashing them for paying for hotels.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 27, 2019 16:29:46 GMT -5
That's great. Know what would free up some cash for that? Release Kloss. Sometimes you have to be an asshole with contracts, otherwise there’s no point in having contracts. Why sign someone to a 3 year deal, if you’re gonna fold and give them what they want when they decided they’re suddenly too good for the original deal after 1 year? Can’t be the good guy all the time, sometimes you have to stand your ground or you lose credibility and control over others. If they roll over for Kross what’s stopping Brian Cage or Taya, champs with actual leverage, from showing up at the next TV taping and demanding a raise or they won’t go out? Or what stops Kross from trying this again in 6 months now that he knows you have no backbone? This isn’t Luke Harper who quietly asked for a release 6 months early in a billion dollar company, this is a dude who attempted to use the court of public opinion to strong arm a company that’s barely treading water. I don’t blame them for standing their ground, even knowing it’s the unpopular move. You don't actually "have" to be an asshole at all though. They sighed him to a deal for what is clearly less than he was worth and less than where they had him being used. Hardball is telling him "Fine, then walk". That's being a hardass and standing your ground. There's no reason to hold him stuck in his contract and in limbo while other people do the same thing and get their release. That's not showing your strength, that's actively being a dick just to make everyone else afraid to push for anything better. And this isn't a struggling local indie promotion, they have a major media company backing them, the money is there for them to pay their wrestlers well. This might not be as bad as Luke Harper is, but it's still a company f***ing with other peoples' lives for the purpose of defending their checkbook and intimidating everyone who works for them, and forget 'unpopular move', there's nothing noble or good about that.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 27, 2019 16:33:39 GMT -5
How so in this situation. Impact is paying for hotels. WHich is something WWE rarely does. So why crap on them for that? How did IMpact Kinda earn it this time? And yes I know there is a part of the IWC that will always crap on Impact. No one is crapping on them for paying for workers hotels. People are crapping on their handling of the situation with Kross. You could argue that it doesn’t need to be brought up here since there is a topic on it, but I haven’t seen anyone bashing them for paying for hotels. Actually, it totally does need to be brought up here, because one of the main financial frustrations for Kross was in the way that he has stuck paying for things like hotels out of pocket, which cut into what he made and added to a myriad of other expenses and factors that made working these shows bring home almost nothing, in practice. This is the company addressing an issue that helped cause the problem everyone is grilling them for, while the guy who brought it to public attention is sitting at home waiting to get booked. The Kross situation is directly linked to this news.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2019 16:34:37 GMT -5
Not surprised Impact does something good and people find a way to crap on them. They kinda earn it every single time Right. Many of us would like to root for Impact, it's a hell of a potential comeback story, but we can't let them off the hook for shit given how shady their previous incarnation they were born from was. We are firmly in "like 48 times bitten, 96 times shy" territory.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Aug 27, 2019 16:39:59 GMT -5
No one is crapping on them for paying for workers hotels. People are crapping on their handling of the situation with Kross. You could argue that it doesn’t need to be brought up here since there is a topic on it, but I haven’t seen anyone bashing them for paying for hotels. Actually, it totally does need to be brought up here, because one of the main financial frustrations for Kross was in the way that he has stuck paying for things like hotels out of pocket, which cut into what he made and added to a myriad of other expenses and factors that made working these shows bring home almost nothing, in practice. This is the company addressing an issue that helped cause the problem everyone is grilling them for, while the guy who brought it to public attention is sitting at home waiting to get booked. The Kross situation is directly linked to this news. Okay that makes way more sense now. I was confused why he kept getting brought up in relation to this outside of it being the other big Impact story right now.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 27, 2019 17:18:41 GMT -5
The fact that Impact, of all f***ing companies, is leading the way on this is blowing my mind. To put it in proper perspective, they are on the road for taping blocks so they will only bring people they need which makes this easier Still good on them, but it is not like they are on the road constantly Better planning ahead would mean places like WWE could do that too, of course.
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Post by King Devitt on Aug 28, 2019 23:02:19 GMT -5
That's great. Know what would free up some cash for that? Release Kloss. Sometimes you have to be an asshole with contracts, otherwise there’s no point in having contracts. Why sign someone to a 3 year deal, if you’re gonna fold and give them what they want when they decided they’re suddenly too good for the original deal after 1 year? Can’t be the good guy all the time, sometimes you have to stand your ground or you lose credibility and control over others. If they roll over for Kross what’s stopping Brian Cage or Taya, champs with actual leverage, from showing up at the next TV taping and demanding a raise or they won’t go out? Or what stops Kross from trying this again in 6 months now that he knows you have no backbone? This isn’t Luke Harper who quietly asked for a release 6 months early in a billion dollar company, this is a dude who attempted to use the court of public opinion to strong arm a company that’s barely treading water. I don’t blame them for standing their ground, even knowing it’s the unpopular move. Every single word of this. Sadly his court of public opinion is clearly working.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2019 23:07:35 GMT -5
To put it in proper perspective, they are on the road for taping blocks so they will only bring people they need which makes this easier Still good on them, but it is not like they are on the road constantly Better planning ahead would mean places like WWE could do that too, of course. They definitely overspend on that, but if they didn't bring everybody, then you have Vince probably asking for the one guy who got a week off.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 28, 2019 23:18:02 GMT -5
It's a real noble gesture, but when did impact get the money to do this?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2019 23:29:28 GMT -5
It's a real noble gesture, but when did impact get the money to do this? I'm honestly a bit curious about that, myself. I do know that they apparently do pretty well for themselves on attendance, so that helps a lot on revenue, I'm sure. Even still, I imagine Anthem is trying to invest in them a bit more than they were previously.
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Post by octopus on Aug 29, 2019 0:35:49 GMT -5
Kross shouldn't have tried to f*** them over. He's an idiot for not reading through the contract and he is terrible at managing money. He doesn't do many independents and takes regular trips to Thailand (which isn't cheap) Scarlett f***ed over ROH before too, doing a WWE dark match whilst under an ROH deal. Even more dumber is that she's hired KM as her booking agent (lol, that must cost a lot). Kross is being made an example of, he's going to be iced out for trying to f*** over a promoter. Wrestlers aren't totally innocent. I'm on the companies side in this one.
As for Impact paying for hotels, its a sign of growth. Their merch sales and live attendances have gone up quite dramatically, they are once again outdrawing Ring of Honor.
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