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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 30, 2019 12:42:59 GMT -5
Martin Stein in Legends of Tomorrow. This one pissed me off because it felt so cruel. He finds out he's a grandfather and wants to retire so he can finally be there for his family and be in his grandchild's life. They come up with a way to break the link between he and Jax and instead of just letting him have a happy ending, they have him get shot and then force Jax to take the cure which is what ends up actually killing Stein. They had a good send off all ready for the character and instead they decide to kill him off instead. i love that trope myself ..... EVERYTHING IS COMING UP ROSES BUT YOU WILL BE PUSHING UP THE DAISIES you can see it most times a mile away not an annoyed but a quite surprised ..... nichelsons joker in batman89 ..... honestly thought he'd survive and go on to bother bats again, but what sticks with me most is his face as he falls! but fav character deaths are of course jarring, but they present a different character dynamic and you wonder how they'll cope from now on This reminds me...Ronnie Raymond in Identity Crisis. Mostly cause I am a BIG Firestorm fan. I did come to accept Jason Rusch, but still... Yes, another area where Nolan had the right idea was to do the opposite of the 1989 movie, but of course real life wrote the plot. And on top of that he did kill Two-Face off quick.
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Post by ayumidah on Aug 30, 2019 13:30:24 GMT -5
As the World Turn's Reid. The show had been canceled at this point, he was in a happy relationship and then ten days before the finale, they killed him off, so the show ended with his significant other mourning. I was sooooo angry. This still bothers me. Reid and Luke were so good for each other. Yessss they were
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 30, 2019 13:45:22 GMT -5
Han Solo - It made Kylo Ren irredeemable.
Jedi Children - It made Anakin Skywalker irredeemable.
Luke Skywalker - Just the final ignomy for a terribly treated character.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 30, 2019 13:52:17 GMT -5
This still bothers me. Reid and Luke were so good for each other. Yessss they were It was racking my mind remembering who Reid was from ATWT but then I remembered he was Holden and Lily's son's boyfriend and yeah that was a pretty shitty death.
On the soap opera note, I really didn't like the way they handled Delia's death and the fallout since in Young & The Restless.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 30, 2019 13:52:50 GMT -5
Hans Solo in Force Awakens, killed him off way to early in this trilogy, I wanted him to least be in one more movie Much as killing Han off aggravated me, that one's on Ford. If they didn't kill Han then Ford wasn't coming back.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 30, 2019 14:08:04 GMT -5
The only reason Harrison Ford came back for TFA is because Han died. Otherwise he didn't want to be involved.
Also regarding Robb Stark, I think the book A Storm Of Swords did a better job of setting up his death than the show did. The Red Wedding was still a shocking incident, especially as it violated the Guest Rite (something that the people of Westeros hold as sacrosanct). But you can see where Robb made so many mistakes pissing off his allies and generally not being a very good politician that the seeds of betrayal were foreshadowed. I still don't undertstand why they invented Talisa in the show only to kill her off instead of using Jeyne Westerling (who wasn't involved at all with the Red Wedding as she was at Riverrun at the time and survived).
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Post by Rave on Aug 30, 2019 15:02:05 GMT -5
Wash. Whedon can f*** off forever for that.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Aug 30, 2019 15:06:05 GMT -5
The death of Ted Kord/Blue Beetle. In retrospect, his death did lead to the arrival of Jaime Reyes, so it wasn’t all bad. True, actually enjoyed the BB comic that introduced Jaime. But i genuinely liked Ted, and it seemed like that after a long time of treating him like a joke in the JLA, DC writers were starting to show him a little respect. He even started working with Oracle (pre-52 Barbara Gordon) with a possible romantic connection...
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 30, 2019 15:36:50 GMT -5
In retrospect, his death did lead to the arrival of Jaime Reyes, so it wasn’t all bad. True, actually enjoyed the BB comic that introduced Jaime. But i genuinely liked Ted, and it seemed like that after a long time of treating him like a joke in the JLA, DC writers were starting to show him a little respect. He even started working with Oracle (pre-52 Barbara Gordon) with a possible romantic connection... Aha. That explains it. The latter threatened Bruce so he used his Bat Creative Control to bury Ted...literally.
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Post by thechase on Aug 30, 2019 15:43:12 GMT -5
I know a lot of fanatical Torchwood fans went insane when Ianto died in the Torchwood: Children of Earth series.
Ah, back when death in Doctor Who actually meant something.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Aug 30, 2019 15:45:37 GMT -5
Eddie Carr in The Lost World.
Son of a bitch is so nice, goes out of his way to save people he doesn’t really know all that well, and suffers what can only be imagened to be one of the worst deaths ever.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 30, 2019 15:47:21 GMT -5
Speaking of awful Jurassic Park deaths.
Zara's death in Jurassic World. It was so gratitutous and drawn out to the point of absurdity.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 30, 2019 15:51:12 GMT -5
They didn’t have to kill Paulie In the rocky/creed series
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 30, 2019 15:53:36 GMT -5
The only reason Harrison Ford came back for TFA is because Han died. Otherwise he didn't want to be involved. Also regarding Robb Stark, I think the book A Storm Of Swords did a better job of setting up his death than the show did. The Red Wedding was still a shocking incident, especially as it violated the Guest Rite (something that the people of Westeros hold as sacrosanct). But you can see where Robb made so many mistakes pissing off his allies and generally not being a very good politician that the seeds of betrayal were foreshadowed. I still don't undertstand why they invented Talisa in the show only to kill her off instead of using Jeyne Westerling (who wasn't involved at all with the Red Wedding as she was at Riverrun at the time and survived). Yeah, it's key in the books that Robb isn't a point of view character, so while you project your hopes onto him, you don't necessarily get the same attachment to him that you do with Jon, Arya, Tyrion, etc., and instead can observe what moves he's making that could lead to a betrayal down the line. Robb comes off as a fine leader in battle and a guy who'd likely be a just king, but he by being raised to be those things he doesn't handle the political machinations needed very well. Don't get me wrong; when it happens in the book it's still utterly shocking, but Martin wanted to drive home during the first 3 books that choices have consequences, and Robb's desire to be honorable, trying to atone for marrying another woman after making a promise to gain the Freys' loyalty, like his father is what gets him killed...just like his father. I'm guessing they invented Talisa so they could give Robb someone to play off more as a character, given that the show offered his perspective more than the books did, but I think it was also a way to shut down the remote possibility that there might be a little baby Stark somewhere out there if Jeyne had become pregnant (though it's implied she's made to induce a miscarriage); by having Talisa there, instead, and having her at the wedding, that whole potential swerve is completely shut off.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 30, 2019 16:01:25 GMT -5
Data's death in Star Trek Nemesis. Even beyond being an awful attempt at replicating Spock's death in Wrath of Khan without a single understanding of the narrative and character elements which made that ending work, the third act has so many contrivances forced in to require a "heroic" sacrifice and even then it still feels unnecessary. The only thing that can be said of it is that it is the perfect climax the ugly, badly written tedium that the rest of movie is.
Star Trek Insurrection had Data acting like a child, asking Worf a question about boobs, serving as a flotation device, and its still a more respectful treatment of the character than anything Nemesis can manage.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 30, 2019 16:06:08 GMT -5
Darwin in whichever X-Men film perpetual answer. Lazy, lazy writing, because you just know they cared about the visual and nothing else. Many of the Pacific Rim deaths in both movies, to be frank. First Class. Yup, out of the thousands of mutants, you pick the one who's power is specifically "not dying" to kill off, just so a ridiculous choice. Someone on here pointed out Darwin was a much better fit to be the mutant inspiration for the Sentinels, instead of forcing Mystique into that role. So if not totally writing him off like they did, they could have at least referenced him later on.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 30, 2019 16:27:16 GMT -5
Gwen in Amazing Spider-Man 2. I don't care if it's canon, they should have went against canon. Emma Stone was great as Gwen, and her chemistry with Garfield was off the charts. Cordelia in Angel. Not so much for the character, but for the IRL reason it happened. Yeah, that was complete bullshit. Joss can be a petty vindictive asshole, the handling of Cordy is a reason so many Whedon fans weren't really shocked when that stuff came out about him. Always felt that if they were going to try and distance themselves from the Rami films then should have done a tease of her iconic death and have her live and be the primary love interest of that universe. Her and Garfield's chemistry was amazing (pun intended) On topic though. Lexa's death in The 100 pissed me off so much. I was so done with the love triangles with Clark and felt her and Lexa should have stayed an item. Doesn't hurt that I loved her no nonsense but somewhat benevolent leadership she showed. Roy Harper, Poison Ivy, and Wally West (kind of, sort of) in Heroes in Crisis pretty much drove me from DC comics. Such lazy writing.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 30, 2019 17:10:58 GMT -5
Speaking of awful Jurassic Park deaths. Zara's death in Jurassic World. It was so gratitutous and drawn out to the point of absurdity. Zara was the female assistant that got the "Full Blown Villain Gratuitous Death in an 80's Action Movie Style" right? That was some bullshit.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 30, 2019 17:13:30 GMT -5
Speaking of awful Jurassic Park deaths. Zara's death in Jurassic World. It was so gratitutous and drawn out to the point of absurdity. Zara was the female assistant that got the "Full Blown Villain Gratuitous Death in an 80's Action Movie Style" right? That was some bullshit. Yep. The one the Pteranodons were playing keep away with before the Mosasaur chomped down on both anyway. At least she got resurrected and became Lena Luthor in Supergirl.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Aug 30, 2019 17:27:48 GMT -5
Speaking of awful Jurassic Park deaths. Zara's death in Jurassic World. It was so gratitutous and drawn out to the point of absurdity. Zara was the female assistant that got the "Full Blown Villain Gratuitous Death in an 80's Action Movie Style" right? That was some bullshit. I have a friend who totally had a Mandela Effect with that scene, he was sure the younger kid shouted AWESOME after that. I think they wanted to replicate the T.rex attacking the lawyer in JP1. But that character deserved it.. he was greedy and a coward who bailed on the kids at the first sign of danger. If Zara was meant to be a bitch they did a poor job of establishing it, I think she has one snide comment but that’s out of frustration of being forced to be a babysitter, then the kids abandon her.. not the other way round. Any I’ll put in Jimmy Olsen from “Dawn of Justice” .. if you didn’t know that journalist that gets shot near the start despite not being named was supposed to be Jimmy. I can’t remember who said it but they said it best that it was a bullshit thing the writers did to show that “this isn’t your Daddy’s Superman movie”.
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