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Post by nm on Aug 30, 2019 19:01:54 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 30, 2019 21:08:33 GMT -5
One of the greatest individual performances in sketch comedy history...damn NBC forcing the laugh track on them, thank God the DVDs cut it out.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 30, 2019 23:05:28 GMT -5
I've watched previous few John Candy movies (Spaceballs and Cool Runnings are the only two I own) but he was always a good watch. Great comic timing and delivery, but could also deliver serious scenes with gravitas.
Also one of my favourite behind the scenes stories was how he was offered the role of Louis Tulley in Ghostbusters, but ultimately passed on it because he didn't quite understand the character and his pitch to play him as a befuddled German man with pet Rottweilers got shot down. As fantastic as Rick Moranis was, I'd have loved to see that performance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 23:47:33 GMT -5
I always thought he was underrated. His movies were a big part of my childhood. I wish he was still with us.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 31, 2019 1:44:37 GMT -5
My favorite actor as a kid. I still remember where I was when I heard he’d died.
I should watch Armed and Dangerous here soon.
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Post by abjordans on Sept 1, 2019 12:36:17 GMT -5
One of my favorites, wish he was still around.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 1, 2019 12:40:59 GMT -5
I'll always lament that Candy didn't get the chance to do more dramatic acting because he did a fantastic job in JFK and in terms of great emotional performances, damn if he didn't knock it out of the park here: Serious parts of Only the Lonely too. I miss John. Uncle Buck, Planes, Trains and Automobiles, JFK, Spaceballs, Summer Rental, Great Outdoors... thank God not just that we had him, but he left us with so much. Very big in Sheboygan.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Sept 1, 2019 19:35:09 GMT -5
Home Alone was on TV the other day, and his reading of this dialogue had me rolling. He made comedy seem so effortless.
Kate McCallister : Have you ever gone on vacation and left your child home?
Gus Polinski : No, no. But I did leave one at a funeral parlor once. [Off Kate's look] Gus Polinski : Yeah, it was awful. The wife was distraught and we left the little tyke there in the funeral parlor all day. All day. You know, we went back at night and apparently he had been alone all day with the corpse. He was okay though, after two, three weeks he came around and started talking again...
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 1, 2019 21:13:50 GMT -5
Candy in Canadian Bacon is something very special
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 2, 2019 3:26:48 GMT -5
Home Alone was on TV the other day, and his reading of this dialogue had me rolling. He made comedy seem so effortless. Kate McCallister : Have you ever gone on vacation and left your child home? Gus Polinski : No, no. But I did leave one at a funeral parlor once. [Off Kate's look] Gus Polinski : Yeah, it was awful. The wife was distraught and we left the little tyke there in the funeral parlor all day. All day. You know, we went back at night and apparently he had been alone all day with the corpse. He was okay though, after two, three weeks he came around and started talking again... If I remember right, that whole bit was improvised too.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 2, 2019 3:43:09 GMT -5
I love John Candy, and can't stand it when people used to compare Chrid Farley to him. A lost movie, Volunteers, had a great John Candy performance in it as an unflappable American citizen that is almost immediately brainwashed by Communists. I like Chris Farley, but they were totally different sorts of actors, same with John Belushi. Candy was definitely the one who did sentiment the best, and just radiated this uncle energy in a lot of his roles. He had this really positive, optimistic quality to his humor where he could play intensely frustrating characters as a foil to someone else, but no matter what he did, it would still come across as a dick move if they chewed him out for it. You can't help but like the guy. Very well-meaning and good natured. Farley's insecurity bled into his roles, and I think that gave him an endearing quality that worked well for Tommy Boy and Black Sheep. He played a f***up well because he ultimately did have an intense want for validation, and that shone through. Compare it to Sandler in Billy Madison, where it works for Billy trying to win the bet for spite, but if you had Farley starring in that, you would have probably had a much more vulnerable character trying to win to do right by his dad, basically like Tommy Boy. That's just how that dynamic would work differently. Belushi definitely came across as the most cynical of the three in performances. A powerhouse of energy, but you'd also get the most edge. Carrie Fisher almost blew him up with a bazooka in Blues Brothers, and you can buy that he may have had it coming, but you still can root for the guy knowing that. All three are some of the standout "big funny fat guy" actors of their times, but they are just super different in actual delivery. Candy was way less frenetic than the other two, but also a lot easier to buy as this guy people would want to spend time around.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 2, 2019 4:16:50 GMT -5
I love John Candy, and can't stand it when people used to compare Chrid Farley to him. A lost movie, Volunteers, had a great John Candy performance in it as an unflappable American citizen that is almost immediately brainwashed by Communists. Candy was definitely the one who did sentiment the best, and just radiated this uncle energy in a lot of his roles. He had this really positive, optimistic quality to his humor where he could play intensely frustrating characters as a foil to someone else, but no matter what he did, it would still come across as a dick move if they chewed him out for it. You can't help but like the guy. Very well-meaning and good natured. This is probably the best description of John Candy, and makes me miss him even more. :/
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 2, 2019 11:54:48 GMT -5
Candy was definitely the one who did sentiment the best, and just radiated this uncle energy in a lot of his roles. He had this really positive, optimistic quality to his humor where he could play intensely frustrating characters as a foil to someone else, but no matter what he did, it would still come across as a dick move if they chewed him out for it. You can't help but like the guy. Very well-meaning and good natured. This is probably the best description of John Candy, and makes me miss him even more. :/ The character of Buck would be an unrepentant ass in the hands of anyone else. But he plays it so warmly, with such humor, that you do see a guy really trying to do better. The scenes where he opens up to the dog and to his niece are masterstrokes because of the humor he showed, that there was a believability to something good at his core earlier. John Candy had every gift but the gift of years.
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 2, 2019 12:01:58 GMT -5
This is probably the best description of John Candy, and makes me miss him even more. :/ The character of Buck would be an unrepentant ass in the hands of anyone else. But he plays it so warmly, with such humor, that you do see a guy really trying to do better. The scenes where he opens up to the dog and to his niece are masterstrokes because of the humor he showed, that there was a believability to something good at his core earlier. John Candy had every gift but the gift of years. You can see that with Del Griffith too. Put various other actors in that role and many audiences would have been greatly annoyed by him before the halfway point. Candy however gives him just enough good intended charm and muted signs of repressed grief that even before you find out what happened to his wife, you're driven to sympathize with him. Its why he works so well with Steve Martin because the latter also manages subtle layers to a character that would be nothing more than a high strung, type A, tight ass in the hands of a lesser actor.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 2, 2019 12:53:02 GMT -5
The character of Buck would be an unrepentant ass in the hands of anyone else. But he plays it so warmly, with such humor, that you do see a guy really trying to do better. The scenes where he opens up to the dog and to his niece are masterstrokes because of the humor he showed, that there was a believability to something good at his core earlier. John Candy had every gift but the gift of years. You can see that with Del Griffith too. Put various other actors in that role and many audiences would have been greatly annoyed by him before the halfway point. Candy however gives him just enough good intended charm and muted signs of repressed grief that even before you find out what happened to his wife, you're driven to sympathize with him. Its why he works so well with Steve Martin because the latter also manages subtle layers to a character that would be nothing more than a high strung type A tight ass in the hands of a lesser actor. Why, despite its popularity, I think Planes, Trains and Automobiles is criminally underrated as a character study as much as a comedy. Del’s “What you see is what you get.” sticks with me as much as Neil’s definition of love: “At the very least - the absolute minimum - you have someone to grow old with.” Fantastic movie.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 2, 2019 15:14:56 GMT -5
This is probably the best description of John Candy, and makes me miss him even more. :/ The character of Buck would be an unrepentant ass in the hands of anyone else. But he plays it so warmly, with such humor, that you do see a guy really trying to do better. The scenes where he opens up to the dog and to his niece are masterstrokes because of the humor he showed, that there was a believability to something good at his core earlier. John Candy had every gift but the gift of years. If anything, he was too nice as Buck, the way his family talks about him as this terrible black sheep of the family who constantly lets them down or screws them over, then John Candy shows up, and he's so nice they all seem like crazy assholes.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Sept 2, 2019 17:29:55 GMT -5
The character of Buck would be an unrepentant ass in the hands of anyone else. But he plays it so warmly, with such humor, that you do see a guy really trying to do better. The scenes where he opens up to the dog and to his niece are masterstrokes because of the humor he showed, that there was a believability to something good at his core earlier. John Candy had every gift but the gift of years. If anything, he was too nice as Buck, the way his family talks about him as this terrible black sheep of the family who constantly lets them down or screws them over, then John Candy shows up, and he's so nice they all seem like crazy assholes. They were yuppies, so yes.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 2, 2019 18:00:26 GMT -5
The character of Buck would be an unrepentant ass in the hands of anyone else. But he plays it so warmly, with such humor, that you do see a guy really trying to do better. The scenes where he opens up to the dog and to his niece are masterstrokes because of the humor he showed, that there was a believability to something good at his core earlier. John Candy had every gift but the gift of years. If anything, he was too nice as Buck, the way his family talks about him as this terrible black sheep of the family who constantly lets them down or screws them over, then John Candy shows up, and he's so nice they all seem like crazy assholes. Only the mom and Tia. Dad, his brother, had a far more tolerant stance. But it’s the lesson - don’t assume you know a person from a limited frame of experience.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 2, 2019 18:20:23 GMT -5
I remember he had this cartoon about camping, but I don’t think it was his best Camp Candy. I can't remember much about it, but at the same time Rick Moranis had a cartoon called Gravedale High.
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Post by tms on Sept 2, 2019 18:38:57 GMT -5
Camp Candy. I can't remember much about it, but at the same time Rick Moranis had a cartoon called Gravedale High. Love, love, love how intentionally horrible and off-key this intro is sung. Never been anything like it. I always lose it when Candy bellows "Good MOORRNING all you happy campers!" and says/sings "EVERYWHERE-AH!" just to double-down on the obnoxiousness of it all.
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