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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 12, 2019 15:51:36 GMT -5
I for one can't wait to find out if Colonel Quidditch comes back from the dead to defeat Jack and Nefferini and save the planet Promentheus or whatever in Avatar 2.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Sept 12, 2019 15:54:04 GMT -5
There's not a lot of justice in the world but the fact Zoe Saldana became the star from Avatar and not Sam Worthington is pretty neat I haven't appeared in anything since my fourth grade play and I'm pretty sure I could out-act Sam Worthington. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 12, 2019 15:54:56 GMT -5
There's not a lot of justice in the world but the fact Zoe Saldana became the star from Avatar and not Sam Worthington is pretty neat Hell, even Stephen Lang arguably raised his stock more with Avatar than Worthington did. Not since VicTORIous has a star vehicle seen the supporting cast do so much better than the actual star (of course, there are so many other examples, but that's the first one that came to mind). |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 12, 2019 17:58:51 GMT -5
If and when Avatar 2 finally is made and releases, I hope so hard it bombs horrifically.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 12, 2019 20:34:04 GMT -5
I get that he would have been hard pressed to churn out sequels right away, but this is far from striking while the iron is hot. Honestly, had I been involved I would have invested in some anime studio set immediately after the first film, exploring both the adventures of the Na'vi and their human allies on Pandora and the trials and tribulations of the humans on Earth, stressing the life or death need for the MacGuffin unobtainium in order to make space colonies for the exploding human population. Honestly setting up an anime studio would've also been super helpful with his whole Alita dream project, given it's a manga that really never got an anime adaptation (a bad two-episode OVA nobody remembers made midway through its run notwithstanding) and while the movie roundabout broke even, that's really about all it did. Speaking of I saw Alita on the plane back from my vacation... it was ok... it felt like they left a lot of stuff out... and Alita herself NEVER looked right. She stood out like a sore thumb in every single scene. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 12, 2019 21:42:55 GMT -5
If and when Avatar 2 finally is made and releases, I hope so hard it bombs horrifically. With the power of Disney behind it, it should do $500 million easily. The issue is that the break even point could be as high as $600-700 million. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 21:44:17 GMT -5
If and when Avatar 2 finally is made and releases, I hope so hard it bombs horrifically. With the power of Disney behind it, it should do $500 million easily. The issue is that the break even point could be as high as $600-700 million. I've heard that with the cost sunken into the pointless underwater tech, it'll likely need to do a billion. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 12, 2019 21:53:11 GMT -5
With the power of Disney behind it, it should do $500 million easily. The issue is that the break even point could be as high as $600-700 million. I've heard that with the cost sunken into the pointless underwater tech, it'll likely need to do a billion. If it was just the one movie it would, but the cost of that is stretched over the four movies it brings the average cost down. |
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Sept 12, 2019 22:49:33 GMT -5
Still deserves to be dunked on until he says, "I was an idiot and I was wrong. I will keep my trash opinions to myself next time." It also must be remembered that Avatar lost the Best Picture Oscar to The Hurt Locker, which was directed by his ex, who also beat him for Best Director. Yes, I still cherish that moment. |
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Post by King Boo on Sept 12, 2019 23:14:19 GMT -5
Still deserves to be dunked on until he says, "I was an idiot and I was wrong. I will keep my trash opinions to myself next time." It also must be remembered that Avatar lost the Best Picture Oscar to The Hurt Locker, which was directed by his ex, who also beat him for Best Director. Yes, I still cherish that moment. Thank you for giving me the opening to post this. twitter.com/JarettSays/status/1151561866516107264 |
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Sept 13, 2019 0:04:24 GMT -5
It also must be remembered that Avatar lost the Best Picture Oscar to The Hurt Locker, which was directed by his ex, who also beat him for Best Director. Yes, I still cherish that moment. Thank you for giving me the opening to post this. Makes me wish that Amy & Tina would host again. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 13, 2019 1:43:52 GMT -5
Thank you for giving me the opening to post this. Makes me wish that Amy & Tina would host again. Look at all those actors making "Well, she's not wrong" face. |
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 13, 2019 5:27:51 GMT -5
For as much as you can argue the quality of their output, Cameron has always been very Michael Bay like in his mentality (or perhaps a more apt way of saying it is Bay is very Cameron like in his mentality). Cameron's shown a distinct interest in money above all other things when it comes to cinema (as in, "What will make him the most money?", "Will this make the most money possible?"). It's not a terrible stance to have, especially if you have the abilities of Cameron's to deliver a perfectly acceptable product.
But with that in mind when reading this, I couldn't help but feel like this was damage control on Cameron's part to always keep the door open for himself if he decided to venture into what's now the most money making "genre" of cinema (superhero movies/Marvel movies).
Well, outside of his failed attempts at Spider-Man in the 90's.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:18:33 GMT -5
I personally think Cameron is a total bell-end. When he’s on form, he’s almost untouchable when it comes to spectacular, action set-pieces but his general self-adoration is in danger of over-shadowing his work..... But I think Avatar’s box office gross is a far more impressive achievement than Endgame. Endgame was basically the final product of a story that several films were building to. It also boasted one of the most impressive casts in history. It had years of build-up leading up to this one film. And boy did it deliver. Avatar had no real huge names except for Sigourney Weaver and she hadn’t starred in anything big for a decade. It did have a Director who had a great record and his previous film had shattered all records but he hadn’t made a (non-documentary) Film since that one. Yeah, as much as I don't like Avatar, it's success is largely underrated. It was an original(yeah, I know it's derivative of other stories) idea, had no real box office draws outside of Cameron himself, used experimental tech, and the main selling point was you'd have to pay more to get the full experience of it. Folks went to that thing multiple times, there was the whole thing with folks wishing they could live on Pandora. Yes, it had virtually no competition at the box office for weeks, but something brought people back to it over and over again. The general public seemed to f***ing love it. With all that, I agree, its success is more impressive than Endgame's. And while I don't think its sequels will break records, it would be foolish to completely rule out the possibility. |
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Sept 13, 2019 11:12:09 GMT -5
I personally think Cameron is a total bell-end. When he’s on form, he’s almost untouchable when it comes to spectacular, action set-pieces but his general self-adoration is in danger of over-shadowing his work..... But I think Avatar’s box office gross is a far more impressive achievement than Endgame. Endgame was basically the final product of a story that several films were building to. It also boasted one of the most impressive casts in history. It had years of build-up leading up to this one film. And boy did it deliver. Avatar had no real huge names except for Sigourney Weaver and she hadn’t starred in anything big for a decade. It did have a Director who had a great record and his previous film had shattered all records but he hadn’t made a (non-documentary) Film since that one. Yeah, as much as I don't like Avatar, it's success is largely underrated. It was an original(yeah, I know it's derivative of other stories) idea, had no real box office draws outside of Cameron himself, used experimental tech, and the main selling point was you'd have to pay more to get the full experience of it. Folks went to that thing multiple times, there was the whole thing with folks wishing they could live on Pandora. Yes, it had virtually no competition at the box office for weeks, but something brought people back to it over and over again. The general public seemed to f***ing love it. With all that, I agree, its success is more impressive than Endgame's. And while I don't think its sequels will break records, it would be foolish to completely rule out the possibility. It actually did have competition, the second weekend it had to deal with Sherlock Holmes, Alvin and the Chipmunks 2 and It’s Complicated. Sherlock made $209,028,679 Alvin made $219,614,612 Complicated made $112,735,375 That’s two blockbusters and a solid hit during Avatar’s run. |
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Post by Shark on Sept 13, 2019 16:29:28 GMT -5
For as much as you can argue the quality of their output, Cameron has always been very Michael Bay like in his mentality (or perhaps a more apt way of saying it is Bay is very Cameron like in his mentality). Cameron's shown a distinct interest in money above all other things when it comes to cinema (as in, "What will make him the most money?", "Will this make the most money possible?"). It's not a terrible stance to have, especially if you have the abilities of Cameron's to deliver a perfectly acceptable product. But with that in mind when reading this, I couldn't help but feel like this was damage control on Cameron's part to always keep the door open for himself if he decided to venture into what's now the most money making "genre" of cinema (superhero movies/Marvel movies). Well, outside of his failed attempts at Spider-Man in the 90's. Bay, to his credit, is at least honest about it. I think Cameron tries to put on the face of trying to make high art. Bay is at least up front with what he's going to make. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 13, 2019 19:35:02 GMT -5
For as much as you can argue the quality of their output, Cameron has always been very Michael Bay like in his mentality (or perhaps a more apt way of saying it is Bay is very Cameron like in his mentality). Cameron's shown a distinct interest in money above all other things when it comes to cinema (as in, "What will make him the most money?", "Will this make the most money possible?"). It's not a terrible stance to have, especially if you have the abilities of Cameron's to deliver a perfectly acceptable product. But with that in mind when reading this, I couldn't help but feel like this was damage control on Cameron's part to always keep the door open for himself if he decided to venture into what's now the most money making "genre" of cinema (superhero movies/Marvel movies). Well, outside of his failed attempts at Spider-Man in the 90's. Bay, to his credit, is at least honest about it. I think Cameron tries to put on the face of trying to make high art. Bay is at least up front with what he's going to make. And ironically enough, Bay has a movie in the Criterion Collection. |
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Post by bob on Sept 13, 2019 20:00:13 GMT -5
Bay, to his credit, is at least honest about it. I think Cameron tries to put on the face of trying to make high art. Bay is at least up front with what he's going to make. 2: The Rock and Armageddon |
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Post by Glitch on Sept 13, 2019 21:46:50 GMT -5
Aren't the Avatar films still being done by Fox?(now owned by Disney)
So I see this as him trying not to piss off the people greenlighting his films.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 0:50:53 GMT -5
I think the thing that should scare him about Avatar 2 and 3 is that Avatar mostly sucks, has ages poorly and has no positive hype like....at all.
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