"Referee Discretion"

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Yeah, I have a big time problem with this because they are playing fast and loose with it 

With title matches, I can buy it and understand it but they pulled this shit in the main event too. No titles were on the line, so when Mox came in that should have been a DQ instead of letting the match continue 

It was something I complained about before in one of the last PPV events and hopefully they get more in line with how they want to run this because i'm not really a fan of it with how they implement it 

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I always thought six man tags were no DQ or had way looser rules

Maybe considering the match just began the referee didn't want to stop it, the action continued in the ring pretty quickly after the Mox incident. Either way I'm ok with it for the moments it made

[THE FVNKER]

As someone who basically considers AEW my "home" promotion now, I'd have to agree with you. I was 100% puzzled by the fact that Omega was just allowed to be dragged completely out of the match by someone who was interfering. Made no sense to me.

[Dub H]

I understand the Moxley one because I can see the logic that Jericho's team did nothing bad thenselves.

But Nyla is straight up trying to use a chair in a title much.That is too far to me.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 2, 2019 21:41:15 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I always thought six man tags were no DQ or had way looser rules

Maybe considering the match just began the referee didn't want to stop it, the action continued in the ring pretty quickly after the Mox incident. Either way I'm ok with it for the moments it made

"Looser rules" still shouldn't mean your legal man is able to get taken completely out the match tho

[eJm]

Think they do need to explain that a bit more or try and have some kind of YT explanation (which they could still do) to make it work but if they do that, I’d have no real problem with it if they keep to it.

The chair with Nyla, I just took it as her not wanting a repeat of the triple threat so was lashing out. It didn’t quite make full sense and it might be me adding narrative that wasn’t there but that’s what I got.

[markymark]

I remember how the ref allowed Marko to interfere like 2 PPVs ago, kinda same thing here.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Oct 2, 2019 21:49:06 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:41:15 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I always thought six man tags were no DQ or had way looser rules

Maybe considering the match just began the referee didn't want to stop it, the action continued in the ring pretty quickly after the Mox incident. Either way I'm ok with it for the moments it made

"Looser rules" still shouldn't mean your legal man is able to get taken completely out the match tho

I still think it was the action continuing that made the ref continue. The Bucks weren't giving up the match, they didn't even go after Mox. Would have been better if maybe the ref took a bump but I think it worked 

[eJm]

Oct 2, 2019 21:50:25 GMT -5 markymark said:

I remember how the ref allowed Marko to interfere like 2 PPVs ago, kinda same thing here.

I mean, that was a triple threat tag so it wasn’t like Aubrey could have done much there since you can’t really DQ anyone.

A straight six man is a bit different.

[Mayonnaise]

Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of that in the 6Man. I could understand it if say Cody ran in to take Kenny’s spot or the Bucks begged him to let the match keep going (which I may have miss, sorry), but just ignoring the interference and letting it drop into a handicapped match was too much.

I can see it in the title match since they were crowning the first champ and letting some stuff slide since you don’t want it decided over a dq but I think it gets over used everywhere AEW just pointed out by accident.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 2, 2019 21:50:29 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:49:06 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

"Looser rules" still shouldn't mean your legal man is able to get taken completely out the match tho

I still think it was the action continuing that made the ref continue. The Bucks weren't giving up the match, they didn't even go after Mox. Would have been better if maybe the ref took a bump but I think it worked 

It's not about how quick the action returns too tho

There are literally rules for this. The announcers did not even try to explain it. If your legal man gets taken out due to outside interference, why are you still letting the match continue when the ref is directly looking at it

That is either a DQ or explain but they said nothing 

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 2, 2019 21:55:39 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of that in the 6Man. I could understand it if say Cody ran in to take Kenny’s spot or the Bucks begged him to let the match keep going (which I may have miss, sorry), but just ignoring the interference and letting it drop into a handicapped match was too much.

I can see it in the title match since they were crowning the first champ and letting some stuff slide since you don’t want it decided over a dq but I think it gets over used everywhere AEW just pointed out by accident.

Cody didn't come out until after the match was over

The announcers just basically said, well damn The Elite is fighting one man down

So my question is why? Why did the ref allow this? This is a DQ all the time but if it is not this time then why

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Oct 2, 2019 21:58:48 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:55:39 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of that in the 6Man. I could understand it if say Cody ran in to take Kenny’s spot or the Bucks begged him to let the match keep going (which I may have miss, sorry), but just ignoring the interference and letting it drop into a handicapped match was too much.

I can see it in the title match since they were crowning the first champ and letting some stuff slide since you don’t want it decided over a dq but I think it gets over used everywhere AEW just pointed out by accident.

Cody didn't come out until after the match was over

The announcers just basically said, well damn The Elite is fighting one man down

So my question is why? Why did the ref allow this? This is a DQ all the time but if it is not this time then why

Maybe they'll address this with a segment or something, maybe the ref themselves will be put on blast.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Oct 2, 2019 21:39:51 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

when Mox came in that should have been a DQ instead of letting the match continue

In and out of kayfabe, AEW is a new company making its TV debut and trying to be serious competition for WWE. The ref knows that calling a DQ on the advertised main event a couple minutes in would piss off the audience and hurt the promotion, so he made the call to let the Bucks suffer through unfair odds.

[cabbageboy]

The weird nature of it is that if you watch BTE Rick Knox is this ultra anal ref that does 5 counts on guys in everyday life for doing the most trivial of things. Yet he lets a blatant run in go without calling for the bell. Couldn't they just bump the ref to set up the Moxley deal and then when he gets up Omega and Mox are long gone?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 2, 2019 22:06:41 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:39:51 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

when Mox came in that should have been a DQ instead of letting the match continue

In and out of kayfabe, AEW is a new company making its TV debut and trying to be serious competition for WWE. The ref knows that calling a DQ on the advertised main event a couple minutes in would piss off the audience and hurt the promotion, so he made the call to let the Bucks suffer through unfair odds.

The rules stay the same whether it is the 1st show or the 50th show so that's not really an explanation. Now, if someone came out and said we aren't letting our premiere end on a DQ or have the announcers explain to us it is a big show and we want to succeed it and willing to overlook that is one thing but that was not said. Nothing was said

[Mozenrath]

Oct 2, 2019 22:01:26 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:58:48 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Cody didn't come out until after the match was over

The announcers just basically said, well damn The Elite is fighting one man down

So my question is why? Why did the ref allow this? This is a DQ all the time but if it is not this time then why

Maybe they'll address this with a segment or something, maybe the ref themselves will be put on blast.

Possibly, they already had Page slam Earl's shitty ref work on twitter, letting a dick kick go unchecked.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 2, 2019 22:01:26 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:58:48 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Cody didn't come out until after the match was over

The announcers just basically said, well damn The Elite is fighting one man down

So my question is why? Why did the ref allow this? This is a DQ all the time but if it is not this time then why

Maybe they'll address this with a segment or something, maybe the ref themselves will be put on blast.

They should and they need to explain the rules

Also with that said with referee discretion, if you're going to pull that card than you obviously should not have every ref allow extra shit to go on. You need to have a very anal ref about the rules so that way this gives this variety and when you watch the matches it adds an eye to the ref as well because of their tendencies just like a "real sport"

[Mayonnaise]

Oct 2, 2019 21:58:48 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Oct 2, 2019 21:55:39 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of that in the 6Man. I could understand it if say Cody ran in to take Kenny’s spot or the Bucks begged him to let the match keep going (which I may have miss, sorry), but just ignoring the interference and letting it drop into a handicapped match was too much.

I can see it in the title match since they were crowning the first champ and letting some stuff slide since you don’t want it decided over a dq but I think it gets over used everywhere AEW just pointed out by accident.

Cody didn't come out until after the match was over

The announcers just basically said, well damn The Elite is fighting one man down

So my question is why? Why did the ref allow this? This is a DQ all the time but if it is not this time then why

I know when Cody ran out, I was questioning why not do that after Kenny and Mox left, let him replacing Kenny be “ref’s discretion”? That would have made more sense to me than making it a handicapped match. Or hell, you got Dustin there and in full gear so let him do it. Make the run in at the end be “too out of control “ or something.

[CMWaters]

I'm thinking the best thing they could say in this is that since Omega wasn't the legal man at that moment he wasn't part of any decision the referee could have made. Had Moxley attacked one of the Bucks, that would be a different story.