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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 7, 2022 15:12:02 GMT -5
Can we at least blame some of it failing due to China never releasing it? It would've broke even at least if released in China. I doubt it? It probably would've helped cut into how much money there was to make but it would have had to make more in China than it has in the rest of the world combined if the high end estimate on how much money it lost is accurate. Studios don't get a gigantic cut there.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 7, 2022 15:14:40 GMT -5
It had an uphill battle to break even even with China. No China made it about impossible.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 7, 2022 15:38:08 GMT -5
It would've broke even at least if released in China. I doubt it? It probably would've helped cut into how much money there was to make but it would have had to make more in China than it has in the rest of the world combined if the high end estimate on how much money it lost is accurate. Studios don't get a gigantic cut there. Indeed. China's government has imposed a strict mandate of limited western theatrical releases (about 20 per year) and increased percentage cuts from the box office (minimum of 55% but closer to 75% in most cases) in order to boost the domestic film industry. Even Disney, who hold more bargaining power than most, have largely abandoned China – Avatar 2 is getting a release, which is only the second movie they've released there this year. Spider-Man: Far From Home was the last MCU movie to release there, with Endgame being the last Disney-produced MCU release there.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 7, 2022 16:30:52 GMT -5
Yes, you're reading that right – Black Adam will turn a profit if one includes the $86 million Warner Bros. pays itself for the broadcast rights.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2022 16:40:13 GMT -5
Eh I don't blame him for putting any positive spin possible
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 7, 2022 16:43:59 GMT -5
Eh I don't blame him for putting any positive spin possible I don't think anybody would expect anything less. Rock's entire public persona is The Most Positive Man on Earth.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 7, 2022 16:46:21 GMT -5
Considering it was meant to be Rock that vetoed Black Adam appearing in the first Shazam film, he's only got himself to blame about wasting that chance.
EDIT - okay, saw the tweets. Man, that is funny, and of course Rock's going to spin it as hard as he can.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 17:19:36 GMT -5
It would surprise me if there’s some quick reshoots to shoehorn him and / or Superman into the post credits of Shazam.
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Post by Chiral on Dec 7, 2022 17:38:34 GMT -5
Suddenly having flashbacks to how Rock reacted post Baywatch release
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 7, 2022 17:48:03 GMT -5
I look at that picture of Rock as Black Adam and think "Snyderverse".
DC cannot get away from that aesthetic, so no attempt at any fresh start can be made.
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Post by burdette25159 on Dec 7, 2022 18:04:45 GMT -5
I doubt it? It probably would've helped cut into how much money there was to make but it would have had to make more in China than it has in the rest of the world combined if the high end estimate on how much money it lost is accurate. Studios don't get a gigantic cut there. Indeed. China's government has imposed a strict mandate of limited western theatrical releases (about 20 per year) and increased percentage cuts from the box office (minimum of 55% but closer to 75% in most cases) in order to boost the domestic film industry. Even Disney, who hold more bargaining power than most, have largely abandoned China – Avatar 2 is getting a release, which is only the second movie they've released there this year. Spider-Man: Far From Home was the last MCU movie to release there, with Endgame being the last Disney-produced MCU release there. In other words a good chance of it being a stright to video release in China
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 7, 2022 18:17:33 GMT -5
Man I’d laugh at the Rock’s trying to spin the film as actually making a profit by adding in the fee WB pays themselves to host Black Adam on HBO Max, if it wasn’t so pathetic.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 7, 2022 18:19:45 GMT -5
Seems weird to even brag, "Oh yeah, we're making $50 to $70 million from this movie!" even ignoring the stupid spin behind it? Oh wow, we spent $200 million and years of development to pay off a fraction of a percentage of WB's debt, huge success!"
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 7, 2022 18:54:53 GMT -5
In other words a good chance of it being a stright to video release in China Black Adam was almost certainly refused release due to its portrayal of magic, supernatural elements, and the pro-Tibet views of Pierce Brosnan. Movies that don't pass censorship for theatrical release won't pass censorship for home media release either, so no. Pirate DVD sellers will make bank from Black Adam, though.
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Post by thechase on Dec 8, 2022 2:33:24 GMT -5
It's about drive, it's about P.R
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Post by Cyno on Dec 8, 2022 11:31:47 GMT -5
Indeed. China's government has imposed a strict mandate of limited western theatrical releases (about 20 per year) and increased percentage cuts from the box office (minimum of 55% but closer to 75% in most cases) in order to boost the domestic film industry. Even Disney, who hold more bargaining power than most, have largely abandoned China – Avatar 2 is getting a release, which is only the second movie they've released there this year. Spider-Man: Far From Home was the last MCU movie to release there, with Endgame being the last Disney-produced MCU release there. In other words a good chance of it being a stright to video release in China That's not how authoritarian governments who strictly control and censor what media gets shown to its citizens work. Especially when said media violates a lot of "traditional values." That also just means that the movie is going to be pirated a lot. So the Chinese people will see it. Warner is just not going to make a single yuan off it.
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Post by salz4life on Dec 8, 2022 11:44:05 GMT -5
Suddenly having flashbacks to how Rock reacted post Baywatch release I'm sure I'm one of the few, but I liked Baywatch...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 11:52:02 GMT -5
I look at that picture of Rock as Black Adam and think "Snyderverse". DC cannot get away from that aesthetic, so no attempt at any fresh start can be made.
It's such a weird thing, too.
If you were to compare the two between DC and Marvel, Marvel is probably the more gritty and dour of the two on paper, while DC is the bright shining beacon heroes like Superman.
I'm someone who think Snydercut Justice League wasn't too bad, but it's clear that that whole aesthetic and vibe just isn't what people want out of a superhero movie.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 8, 2022 12:00:32 GMT -5
Kind of funny to see Hollywood accounting being used to boost the profits of a film, rather than reduce it to shaft people. If I were involved with the Batgirl production that saw all that work scrapped for budget cuts, I would be piiised.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Dec 8, 2022 13:14:08 GMT -5
I look at that picture of Rock as Black Adam and think "Snyderverse". DC cannot get away from that aesthetic, so no attempt at any fresh start can be made. It's such a weird thing, too.
If you were to compare the two between DC and Marvel, Marvel is probably the more gritty and dour of the two on paper, while DC is the bright shining beacon heroes like Superman.
I'm someone who think Snydercut Justice League wasn't too bad, but it's clear that that whole aesthetic and vibe just isn't what people want out of a superhero movie.
Marvel was traditionally the more gritty comics with DC being the bright and happy comics. But in the 2000s DC took a turn. Geoff Johns had a big part in it. So you had Superboy Prime punching peoples heads off, Wonderdog eating Wendy and Marvin, rape and brainwashing, etc. Then New 52 brought in a bunch of creators from the 90s (even Liefeld) who continued the trend. To the point where I was talking to a guy 20 years younger than me who had no idea that DC used to be the happy comics. Meanwhile what Marvel took from DC was the de uniqueing of their characters. So now we have 2 Captain Americas, 2 Thors, 2 Spider Men and a dozen knock offs.
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