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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 21, 2019 8:07:05 GMT -5
Give the "current" Doctor a break and give me a year of Paul McGann, you COWARDS!
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Oct 21, 2019 10:25:20 GMT -5
According to its fans, the Doctor Who franchise has been dying a woeful, painful death since An Unearthly Child.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 21, 2019 10:31:57 GMT -5
First thing I think of when I read this.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 21, 2019 10:51:02 GMT -5
According to its fans, the Doctor Who franchise has been dying a woeful, painful death since An Unearthly Child. A Doctor Who website I visit has a running total for every time Doctor Who was ruined forever. Its ruined about 100 times before the modern era. Including like every time a popular companion leaves... or the doctor regenerates or "21/12/1963 – Silly robot monsters introduced into informative historical series."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 5:27:56 GMT -5
As a sci-fi nerd, I've always wanted to get into Doctor Who but don't know where to even begin. It's overwhelming the amount of content that is out there, and how long it has been around. Then on top of that I've heard shows like Torchwood and stuff are spin-offs set in the same universe and shit like that. It's off-putting. I feel bad for the fans who have been into it all these years, but honestly a hard reboot with a fresh start would probably be the only thing to get me to start watching it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 22, 2019 7:07:48 GMT -5
Theres such a loose definition of canon with Doctor who you can probably hop on at any point really.
Also you don't need to watch Torchwood. It really doesn't add anything to Doctor Who proper.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 22, 2019 7:10:58 GMT -5
Theres such a loose definition of canon with Doctor who you can probably hop on at any point really. Also you don't need to watch Torchwood. It really doesn't add anything to Doctor Who proper. It is pretty damn good though. Haven't watched Miracle Day yet, but the other seasons were quite enjoyable. Okay, maybe enjoyable wasn't the right word for Children of Earth. That got f***ing dark.
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Post by thechase on Oct 22, 2019 7:25:04 GMT -5
According to its fans, the Doctor Who franchise has been dying a woeful, painful death since An Unearthly Child. Source: A (very drunk) Steven Moffat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 7:30:28 GMT -5
Haven't watched Miracle Day yet Yeah, don't.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 22, 2019 7:32:00 GMT -5
As a sci-fi nerd, I've always wanted to get into Doctor Who but don't know where to even begin. It's overwhelming the amount of content that is out there, and how long it has been around. Then on top of that I've heard shows like Torchwood and stuff are spin-offs set in the same universe and shit like that. It's off-putting. I feel bad for the fans who have been into it all these years, but honestly a hard reboot with a fresh start would probably be the only thing to get me to start watching it. Just start with the premier of the new Doctor Who and watch it in order. The first episode Rose isn't the best though so at least stick around for a few episodes. Some people suggest skipping it but I for one think it has some really fantastic can't miss moments, especially when Rose first meets the Doctor and he describes who he is. Don't get too intimidated. 11 seasons of the main show plus the shorter length spinoffs goes by really quickly. If you start to include the Classic Who in the list, that's where it really gets to be intimidating, but those are in no way required viewing to enjoy the new series.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 7:41:03 GMT -5
As a sci-fi nerd, I've always wanted to get into Doctor Who but don't know where to even begin. It's overwhelming the amount of content that is out there, and how long it has been around. Then on top of that I've heard shows like Torchwood and stuff are spin-offs set in the same universe and shit like that. It's off-putting. I feel bad for the fans who have been into it all these years, but honestly a hard reboot with a fresh start would probably be the only thing to get me to start watching it. Just start with the premier of the new Doctor Who and watch it in order. The first episode Rose isn't the best though so at least stick around for a few episodes. Some people suggest skipping it but I for one think it has some really fantastic can't miss moments, especially when Rose first meets the Doctor and he describes who he is. Don't get too intimidated. 11 seasons of the main show plus the shorter length spinoffs goes by really quickly. If you start to include the Classic Who in the list, that's where it really gets to be intimidating, but those are in no way required viewing to enjoy the new series. 11 seasons of a show is a LOT to try to watch. And then there's spin-offs, not to mention the fact that I don't know at what point in the main series I'm supposed to watch these spin-offs. Also, since I'm not a fan I don't know what the difference between "classic" and "modern" is. I mean, I'm not stupid I realize classic is the old stuff and modern is the current stuff, but at what point is the switchover?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 7:50:12 GMT -5
Just start with the premier of the new Doctor Who and watch it in order. The first episode Rose isn't the best though so at least stick around for a few episodes. Some people suggest skipping it but I for one think it has some really fantastic can't miss moments, especially when Rose first meets the Doctor and he describes who he is. Don't get too intimidated. 11 seasons of the main show plus the shorter length spinoffs goes by really quickly. If you start to include the Classic Who in the list, that's where it really gets to be intimidating, but those are in no way required viewing to enjoy the new series. 11 seasons of a show is a LOT to try to watch. And then there's spin-offs, not to mention the fact that I don't know at what point in the main series I'm supposed to watch these spin-offs. Also, since I'm not a fan I don't know what the difference between "classic" and "modern" is. I mean, I'm not stupid I realize classic is the old stuff and modern is the current stuff, but at what point is the switchover? The classic series ran until 1989, the modern series started in 2005. There's a movie in between but it's not really important.
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 22, 2019 7:52:11 GMT -5
Just start with the premier of the new Doctor Who and watch it in order. The first episode Rose isn't the best though so at least stick around for a few episodes. Some people suggest skipping it but I for one think it has some really fantastic can't miss moments, especially when Rose first meets the Doctor and he describes who he is. Don't get too intimidated. 11 seasons of the main show plus the shorter length spinoffs goes by really quickly. If you start to include the Classic Who in the list, that's where it really gets to be intimidating, but those are in no way required viewing to enjoy the new series. 11 seasons of a show is a LOT to try to watch. And then there's spin-offs, not to mention the fact that I don't know at what point in the main series I'm supposed to watch these spin-offs. Also, since I'm not a fan I don't know what the difference between "classic" and "modern" is. I mean, I'm not stupid I realize classic is the old stuff and modern is the current stuff, but at what point is the switchover? Who's televised content is the classic series running fro 1963 to 1989. Keep in mind this was in a serial format, with most stories running with 4-8 episodes (though some are longer). After the series cancellation by the BBC, it went into limbo until 1996 when a made for TV movie starring a new Doctor aired on Fox. This movie was within the continuity of the old one, including the last classic series Doctor regenerating into a new one (though some lore elements that have gone somewhat ignored). When it wasn't picked up as a show, the series went into limbo again until 2005 when the new series airing once again on the BBC and was eventually confirmed as a follow up to the classic series. Various 50th anniversary specials in 2013 also bridged the gap between the Fox film and the new series, showing how the Doctor in the former connected to the events of the latter.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 22, 2019 7:54:53 GMT -5
Just start with the premier of the new Doctor Who and watch it in order. The first episode Rose isn't the best though so at least stick around for a few episodes. Some people suggest skipping it but I for one think it has some really fantastic can't miss moments, especially when Rose first meets the Doctor and he describes who he is. Don't get too intimidated. 11 seasons of the main show plus the shorter length spinoffs goes by really quickly. If you start to include the Classic Who in the list, that's where it really gets to be intimidating, but those are in no way required viewing to enjoy the new series. 11 seasons of a show is a LOT to try to watch. And then there's spin-offs, not to mention the fact that I don't know at what point in the main series I'm supposed to watch these spin-offs. Also, since I'm not a fan I don't know what the difference between "classic" and "modern" is. I mean, I'm not stupid I realize classic is the old stuff and modern is the current stuff, but at what point is the switchover? Classic Doctor Who ran from 1963-1989 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_episodes_(1963%E2%80%931989)New Doctor Who started in 2005 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_episodes_(2005%E2%80%93present)Here's a viewing order I found for the new Doctor Who. The spinoffs only intersect with the main series at certain points, and aren't really required viewing. Torchwood is quite good though, at least through Children of Earth (haven't watched Miracle Day and its reception was very mixed at best) Sarah Jane Adventures is aimed at children, I've never watched it, and there is exactly one time where characters from that show cameo on the main series in a big event. Definitely not required viewing, can't comment really on its quality. The show ended when the actress playing the titular Sarah Jane (a very popular companion from a classic Who series) passed away. Class is apparently also a Doctor Who spinoff. It didn't tie back into the show as far as I know, it was well reviewed but never found an audience and was cancelled after one season. I've never even heard of it before finding this list. Doctor Who: S1 Doctor Who: The Christmas Invasion Doctor Who: S2 Torchwood: S1 Ep 1-10 (Episode 10 is set just before Xmas) Doctor Who: The Runaway Bride Torchwood: S1 Ep 11 Doctor Who: S3 Ep 1-10 Torchwood: S1 Ep 12-13 (Leads directly into DW: S03E11) Doctor Who: S3 Ep 11-13 Doctor Who: Voyage of the Damned Sarah Jane Adventures: S1 Torchwood: S2 Doctor Who: S4 Sarah Jane Adventures: S2 Doctor Who: The Next Doctor Doctor Who: The Planet of the Dead Torchwood: Children of Earth Sarah Jane Adventures: S3 Doctor Who: The Waters of Mars Doctor Who: The End of Time Doctor Who: S5 Sarah Jane Adventures: S4 Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol Torchwood: Miracle Day Doctor Who: S6 Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe Sarah Jane Adventures: S5 Doctor Who: S7 Ep 1-5 Doctor Who: The Snowmen Doctor Who: S7 Ep 6-13 Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Doctor Who: The Time of the Doctor Doctor Who: S8 Doctor Who: Last Christmas Doctor Who: S9 Doctor Who: The Husbands of River Song Class: S1 Doctor Who: The Return of Doctor Mysterio Doctor Who: S10 Doctor Who: Christmas 17 Doctor Who: Season 11
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 22, 2019 12:01:24 GMT -5
Haven't watched Miracle Day yet Yeah, don't. What, you don't think that a giant butthole in the center of the Earth connecting China and Argentina could create worldwide immortality? Lizuka don't know shit about science.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Oct 22, 2019 12:43:07 GMT -5
11 seasons of a show is a LOT to try to watch. And then there's spin-offs, not to mention the fact that I don't know at what point in the main series I'm supposed to watch these spin-offs. Also, since I'm not a fan I don't know what the difference between "classic" and "modern" is. I mean, I'm not stupid I realize classic is the old stuff and modern is the current stuff, but at what point is the switchover? Classic Doctor Who ran from 1963-1989 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_episodes_(1963%E2%80%931989)New Doctor Who started in 2005 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_episodes_(2005%E2%80%93present)Here's a viewing order I found for the new Doctor Who. The spinoffs only intersect with the main series at certain points, and aren't really required viewing. Torchwood is quite good though, at least through Children of Earth (haven't watched Miracle Day and its reception was very mixed at best) Sarah Jane Adventures is aimed at children, I've never watched it, and there is exactly one time where characters from that show cameo on the main series in a big event. Definitely not required viewing, can't comment really on its quality. The show ended when the actress playing the titular Sarah Jane (a very popular companion from a classic Who series) passed away. Class is apparently also a Doctor Who spinoff. It didn't tie back into the show as far as I know, it was well reviewed but never found an audience and was cancelled after one season. I've never even heard of it before finding this list. Doctor Who: S1 Doctor Who: The Christmas Invasion Doctor Who: S2 Torchwood: S1 Ep 1-10 (Episode 10 is set just before Xmas) Doctor Who: The Runaway Bride Torchwood: S1 Ep 11 Doctor Who: S3 Ep 1-10 Torchwood: S1 Ep 12-13 (Leads directly into DW: S03E11) Doctor Who: S3 Ep 11-13 Doctor Who: Voyage of the Damned Sarah Jane Adventures: S1 Torchwood: S2 Doctor Who: S4 Sarah Jane Adventures: S2 Doctor Who: The Next Doctor Doctor Who: The Planet of the Dead Torchwood: Children of Earth Sarah Jane Adventures: S3 Doctor Who: The Waters of Mars Doctor Who: The End of Time Doctor Who: S5 Sarah Jane Adventures: S4 Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol Torchwood: Miracle Day Doctor Who: S6 Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe Sarah Jane Adventures: S5 Doctor Who: S7 Ep 1-5 Doctor Who: The Snowmen Doctor Who: S7 Ep 6-13 Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Doctor Who: The Time of the Doctor Doctor Who: S8 Doctor Who: Last Christmas Doctor Who: S9 Doctor Who: The Husbands of River Song Class: S1 Doctor Who: The Return of Doctor Mysterio Doctor Who: S10 Doctor Who: Christmas 17 Doctor Who: Season 11 I’ve seen all of these so I’d like to give my essential list for the best viewing experience, in my opinion. The seasons aren’t long. They’re very easy to watch and they get quite addictive. The first season will probably feel a bit dated by now but give it a few episodes to hook you in. Original Doctor Who is much more of a slow burn while the new era moves much faster but it relies heavily on great character development and solid storytelling. It gets so much better in season 2 but you should be invested well before the end of season 1. Huge changes happen beginning with season 5. Many feel the show started going slowly downhill at that point and never recovered. That’s a somewhat common opinion but most feel that the first four seasons and the specials that followed were the modern classics of the new era. They should be the most fun to watch and will probably make the best impression without having to make a major commitment. They’re definitely the ones I’ve watched repeatedly the most. Doctor Who: S1 Doctor Who: The Christmas Invasion (2005 Christmas special) Doctor Who: S2 Doctor Who: The Runaway Bride (2006 Christmas special) Doctor Who: S3 Doctor Who: Voyage of the Damned (2007 Christmas special) Doctor Who: S4 Doctor Who: The Next Doctor (2008 Christmas special) Doctor Who: The Planet of the Dead Doctor Who: The Waters of Mars Doctor Who: The End of Time Part 1 (2009 Christmas special) Doctor Who: The End of Time Part 2 (2010 New Year’s special)
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 22, 2019 15:10:16 GMT -5
As a sci-fi nerd, I've always wanted to get into Doctor Who but don't know where to even begin. It's overwhelming the amount of content that is out there, and how long it has been around. Then on top of that I've heard shows like Torchwood and stuff are spin-offs set in the same universe and shit like that. It's off-putting. I feel bad for the fans who have been into it all these years, but honestly a hard reboot with a fresh start would probably be the only thing to get me to start watching it. Pick a Doctor from the modern era and jump in. I started watching season 6 I think having never seen an episode before. I went back and watched all of Nu Who after.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 15:44:14 GMT -5
I do think that it is annoying that Dr. Who has a lot of baggage and continuity now that the show didn't used to care much about. The idea that it needs to be like every other big time TV show isn't actually good for it all.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Oct 22, 2019 16:51:14 GMT -5
A hard reboot might get me watching again. I gave up not long after the Girl in the Fireplace episode,so that is what 2nd or 3rd season of the modern era? Never got into Tennent as The Doctor. Loved Chris but one season wasn't enough of him.
I was a kid back when the MS PBS started airing this. IIRC older seasons,mostly the start of Tom Baker,aired mon thru Thursday. Then the new stuff aired on Saturdays at like 2pm.
Loved those seasons and have went back and rewatched them and most of it has held up decently. Something about hte modern Who having a budget for FX work doesn't sit right with me.
I know I am cranky old man yelling at clouds.
Curious in the States what channel is airing the newest season? Last time I was paying attention SYFY was airing them.
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Post by Tenshigure on Oct 22, 2019 16:54:11 GMT -5
Theres such a loose definition of canon with Doctor who you can probably hop on at any point really. Also you don't need to watch Torchwood. It really doesn't add anything to Doctor Who proper. I'd say watch the pilot episode and call it a day. Kinda use it as a sort of epilogue to what what Captain Jack was doing after vanishing off the show for an extended period of time.
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