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Post by autisticgeordie on Dec 5, 2019 7:54:51 GMT -5
I know that there's been a number of legitimate Native-American wrestlers like The Briscoe Brothers (Jack and Jerry), Tatanka and people like that, and yet, Chief Jay Strongbow, one of the more famous "Native-American" wrestlers is actually an Italian-American.
Are there any other wrestlers who are legitimately Native-American? Also why there seems to be so few Native-American wrestlers out there in the current wrestling landscape?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 5, 2019 8:01:37 GMT -5
Nyla Rose comes to mind en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_professional_wrestlersSurprising entries include Kevin Nash and Randy Orton, though neither of their wikipedia article elaborates. Likely only a small part. You figure how many Native Americans there are, and how many of them end up getting into pro wrestling, and how many make it from there beyond bingo halls. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 5, 2019 8:57:52 GMT -5
Wahoo McDaniel.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 5, 2019 11:06:40 GMT -5
Does what Wes Brisco does count as wrestling? If so, him, being Gerry's son and all.
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Post by Convoy on Dec 5, 2019 12:14:44 GMT -5
Current NJPW Young Lion Karl Fredericks is Native American, a fact he wears proudly.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 5, 2019 14:48:31 GMT -5
There was a wrestler called Kafu ,The Brazilian Beast and he was Native SouthAmerican does that count?
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 5, 2019 16:40:01 GMT -5
There was a short-lived Native American character in WCW in 1993 named Charlie Norris. He was basically a Tatanka rip-off since that's when Tatanka was at the height of his popularity. He later went on to sue WCW for discrimination. Not sure what happened to him after that.
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Post by XIII on Dec 5, 2019 16:41:26 GMT -5
Were the Youngblood’s actually native?
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Post by Cyno on Dec 5, 2019 17:19:19 GMT -5
Mickie James is part Powhatan and proud of her Native American heritage.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 5, 2019 19:41:25 GMT -5
It was funny in a way, that Chief Jay Strongbow was a fake, but his fake "brother" Jules Strongbow was legit. Were the Youngblood’s actually native? Not directly. They are Hispanic, so there is likely some indigenous blood in them further back, but nothing in their recent genealogy. But yeah, outside that Wikipedia page, there aren't a whole lot of Native Americans that have made a name in the business. Many of the "indian" gimmicks over the years were portrayed by Hispanics, Mexicans and even Middle Easterners. And Italians, for some reason. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 5, 2019 19:49:14 GMT -5
It was funny in a way, that Chief Jay Strongbow was a fake, but his fake "brother" Jules Strongbow was legit. Were the Youngblood’s actually native? Not directly. They are Hispanic, so there is likely some indigenous blood in them further back, but nothing in their recent genealogy. But yeah, outside that Wikipedia page, there aren't a whole lot of Native Americans that have made a name in the business. Many of the "indian" gimmicks over the years were portrayed by Hispanics, Mexicans and even Middle Easterners. And Italians, for some reason. On Italians, I guess having black hair and a darker complexion might have been seen as making it more plausible, particularly if they shaved and kept body hair to a minimum, but yeah, I can't imagine that even at the time a lot of people were fooled by some of the acts. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 5, 2019 20:19:30 GMT -5
It was funny in a way, that Chief Jay Strongbow was a fake, but his fake "brother" Jules Strongbow was legit. Not directly. They are Hispanic, so there is likely some indigenous blood in them further back, but nothing in their recent genealogy. But yeah, outside that Wikipedia page, there aren't a whole lot of Native Americans that have made a name in the business. Many of the "indian" gimmicks over the years were portrayed by Hispanics, Mexicans and even Middle Easterners. And Italians, for some reason. On Italians, I guess having black hair and a darker complexion might have been seen as making it more plausible, particularly if they shaved and kept body hair to a minimum, but yeah, I can't imagine that even at the time a lot of people were fooled by some of the acts. Some of the fakes got big. Adnan Al-kassie was successful enough as Billy White Wolf that he spent the first twenty years of his career doing that gimmick before finally reclaiming a (stereotyped) form of his own ethnicity and going by his real name again. Wrestling is weird like that. This is the business that gave the WWF five Japanese roster members in the mid-90s, and only two of them were actually Japanese. The other three were Hawaiian, Puerto Rican and Samoan. |
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Post by agent817 on Dec 5, 2019 20:21:08 GMT -5
Mickie James is part Powhatan and proud of her Native American heritage. I'll say.  |
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Post by J. Hova on Dec 5, 2019 20:44:36 GMT -5
Mickie James is part Powhatan and proud of her Native American heritage. I'll say. I want to come up with a joke or an innuendo but I keep getting distracted by what she's almost wearing. |
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Post by agent817 on Dec 5, 2019 21:48:07 GMT -5
I'll say. I want to come up with a joke or an innuendo but I keep getting distracted by what she's almost wearing. Well, I am sure that this won't help matters, either.  |
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Post by J. Hova on Dec 5, 2019 22:21:12 GMT -5
I want to come up with a joke or an innuendo but I keep getting distracted by what she's almost wearing. Well, I am sure that this won't help matters, either. Oh, to be a feather, now that fall is here......... |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 5, 2019 22:51:41 GMT -5
Chill, guys.
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Post by J. Hova on Dec 5, 2019 22:59:50 GMT -5
Anyway, back on topic, there has to be more, but I'm guessing Wikipedia is just counting full blooded or a couple of generations removed from full blooded Native American.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 6, 2019 0:20:54 GMT -5
Anyway, back on topic, there has to be more, but I'm guessing Wikipedia is just counting full blooded or a couple of generations removed from full blooded Native American. There's no doubt a number of them spread out over time, territories and indies. There was a wrestler here in the late 90s named Choctaw Warrior and was probably legit, but he never got beyond 200-crowd indies. I think the second Bull Ramos (not the famous one) may have been Native, but not even close to confirmed. |
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Post by MentalMidget on Dec 6, 2019 0:50:19 GMT -5
Was coming here to mention both him and local Indy wrestler Robbie Thunder. There was a short-lived Native American character in WCW in 1993 named Charlie Norris. He was basically a Tatanka rip-off since that's when Tatanka was at the height of his popularity. He later went on to sue WCW for discrimination. Not sure what happened to him after that. |
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