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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 14, 2019 4:28:07 GMT -5
Counting only the regular PPVs and not the two specials No Holds Barred and This Tuesday in Texas, Herc somehow managed to work every single PPV between Wrestlemania 2 and Rumble '92, just shy of six years' worth and 19 PPVs in total. So my question is...how is Hercules of all people the guy who ended up with this sort of streak?
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Wrestlemania 2 - Ricky Steamboat defeated Hercules Hernandez
Wrestlemania 3 - Billy Jack Haynes vs. Hercules (with Bobby Heenan) ended in a double countout
Survivor Series '87 - Brutus Beefcake, Jake Roberts, Jim Duggan, Randy Savage and Ricky Steamboat (with Miss Elizabeth) defeated Dangerous Danny Davis, Harley Race, Hercules, The Honky Tonk Man and Ron Bass (with Bobby Heenan and Jimmy Hart)
Wrestlemania 4 - The Ultimate Warrior defeated Hercules (with Bobby Heenan)
Summerslam '88 - Jake Roberts defeated Hercules
Survivor Series '88 - Hercules, Hillbilly Jim, Koko B. Ware, Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage (with Miss Elizabeth) defeated Akeem, Big Boss Man, Haku, The Red Rooster and Ted DiBiase (with Bobby Heenan, Slick and Virgil)
Royal Rumble '89 - Entrant #28 in Rumble, eliminated by Ted DiBiase and Barbarian
Wrestlemania 5 - Hercules defeated King Haku (with Bobby Heenan)
Summerslam '89 - Greg Valentine (with Jimmy Hart) defeated Hercules
Survivor Series '89 - The King's Court (Randy Savage, Canadian Earthquake, Dino Bravo and Greg Valentine) (with Jimmy Hart and Queen Sherri) defeated The 4x4s: (Jim Duggan, Bret Hart, Ronnie Garvin and Hercules)
Royal Rumble ' 90 - Entrant #29, eliminated by Rick Rude
Wrestlemania 6 - Earthquake (with Jimmy Hart) defeated Hercules
Summerslam '90 - Power and Glory (Hercules and Paul Roma) (with Slick) defeated The Rockers (Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels)
Survivor Series '90 - The Visionaries (Hercules, Paul Roma, Rick Martel and The Warlord) (with Slick) defeated The Vipers (Jake Roberts, Jimmy Snuka, Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels) - Hulk Hogan, Tito Santana and The Ultimate Warrior defeated Hercules, Paul Roma, Rick Martel, Ted DiBiase and The Warlord (with Virgil and Slick)
Royal Rumble '91 - Entrant #10, eliminated by Brian Knobbs
Wrestlemania 7 - The Legion of Doom (Animal and Hawk) defeated Power and Glory (Hercules and Paul Roma) (with Slick)
Summerslam '91 - The British Bulldog, The Dragon and The Texas Tornado defeated Power and Glory (Hercules and Paul Roma) and The Warlord (with Slick)
Survivor Series '91 - Jim Duggan, Sgt. Slaughter, The Texas Tornado and Tito Santana defeated The Berzerker, Col. Mustafa, Hercules and Skinner (with General Adnan and Mr. Fuji)
Royal Rumble '92 - Entrant #14, eliminated by Big Boss Man
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 14, 2019 7:44:19 GMT -5
Counting only the regular PPVs and not the two specials No Holds Barred and This Tuesday in Texas, Herc somehow managed to work every single PPV between Wrestlemania 2 and Rumble '92, just shy of six years' worth and 19 PPVs in total. So my question is...how is Hercules of all people the guy who ended up with this sort of streak? Hey now, let’s not merk the Herc!
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Dec 14, 2019 8:08:15 GMT -5
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Post by BRAINFADE on Dec 14, 2019 9:34:28 GMT -5
Ah yes, the inexplicable Hercules PPV streak. One of the funnier early memes in OSW Review. Was so funny just how baffled they were when they were reviewing shows towards the end of 91 and he was still somehow getting a match.
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Post by toodarkmark on Dec 14, 2019 9:58:49 GMT -5
He was puffy from the juice, which Vince loves/d, was willing to job, and his gimmick was recognizable to anyone unfamiliar with the roster.
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Dec 14, 2019 10:41:05 GMT -5
And he never got a Hasbro! Where's the justice in that!?
He looked pretty rough by the end of his run in WWF, he always seemed red and blown-up, had a sweaty mullet, terrible seedy moustache and Sheik-like roid gut ballooning over his long tights. Shame really. I quite enjoyed his face run and his tag team with Roma.
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 14, 2019 10:51:22 GMT -5
So my question is...how is Hercules of all people the guy who ended up with this sort of streak? I wanna say it's because Vince really liked the guy, at least for a while. Yeah, I know "duh, Vince McMahon would take a liking to a big, strong guy" but I think, even among all the other big and/or strong guys in WWF, I think Vince liked Herc especially, that's why Herc stuck around for a while and always hovered around the upper mid card. Though eventually I think Herc got a little frustrated because maybe he thought he would get more success. He never won a title there, not even the tag team titles with Power & Glory, and never really worked against Hulk Hogan while he was champion, other than a few house show matches between the two. I think he eventually had had enough, as evident in that infamous match when he jobbed to Sid Justice in 1992. He was 100% done by that night (but not quite, since I heard they had extended his contract for 6 more months before actually releasing him. )
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 14, 2019 13:58:56 GMT -5
How does this compare to Tito Santana's PPV run?
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 14, 2019 14:08:26 GMT -5
So my question is...how is Hercules of all people the guy who ended up with this sort of streak? I wanna say it's because Vince really liked the guy, at least for a while. Yeah, I know "duh, Vince McMahon would take a liking to a big, strong guy" but I think, even among all the other big and/or strong guys in WWF, I think Vince liked Herc especially, that's why Herc stuck around for a while and always hovered around the upper mid card. Though eventually I think Herc got a little frustrated because maybe he thought he would get more success. He never won a title there, not even the tag team titles with Power & Glory, and never really worked against Hulk Hogan while he was champion, other than a few house show matches between the two. I think he eventually had had enough, as evident in that infamous match when he jobbed to Sid Justice in 1992. He was 100% done by that night (but not quite, since I heard they had extended his contract for 6 more months before actually releasing him. ) They didn't extend his contract, because 3 months later he was working as Super Invader in WCW.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 14, 2019 14:26:03 GMT -5
How does this compare to Tito Santana's PPV run? Santana’s started a year earlier but his streak ended at Wrestlemania 7 as he wasn’t at SummerSlam 1991.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 14, 2019 15:09:24 GMT -5
That match he was in at Survivor Series '91 was all weird to begin with, since Jim Neidhart was originally on Duggan's team but then got a worked injury during a match with Ric Flair, thus allowing them to sub in the face-turning Sgt. Slaughter, something they made very clear during previews and event center breaks...and then out of nowhere on the night of the show Hercules' picture shows up superimposed over Big Bully Busick's and Herc's earning another PPV pay day, no heads up to the crowd whatsoever.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 14, 2019 15:17:33 GMT -5
That match he was in at Survivor Series '91 was all weird to begin with, since Jim Neidhart was originally on Duggan's team but then got a worked injury during a match with Ric Flair, thus allowing them to sub in the face-turning Sgt. Slaughter, something they made very clear during previews and event center breaks...and then out of nowhere on the night of the show Hercules' picture shows up superimposed over Big Bully Busick's and Herc's earning another PPV pay day, no heads up to the crowd whatsoever. The Dragon was originally on the face team too, he was replaced by Tito.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 14, 2019 16:51:48 GMT -5
His theme tune was aces.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 14, 2019 17:13:05 GMT -5
How does this compare to Tito Santana's PPV run? Santana’s started a year earlier but his streak ended at Wrestlemania 7 as he wasn’t at SummerSlam 1991. Tito also wasn't on Summerslam 88. That's what makes Hecules PPV steak more impressive and weird. All the other mid card veterans that Vince had a soft spot for and kept around forever and consistently gave PPV spots too like Tito, Valentine and Bravo would get left off Summerlam some years. However Hercules just kept getting booked at every one although too be fair he wasn't supposed to be at Survivor Series 91 and only got on as a substitute.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 14, 2019 17:21:28 GMT -5
Santana’s started a year earlier but his streak ended at Wrestlemania 7 as he wasn’t at SummerSlam 1991. Tito also wasn't on Summerslam 88. That's what makes Hecules PPV steak more impressive and weird. All the other mid card veterans that Vince had a soft spot for and kept around forever and consistently gave PPV spots too like Tito, Valentine and Bravo would get left off Summerlam some years. However Hercules just kept getting booked at every one although too be fair he wasn't supposed to be at Survivor Series 91 and only got on as a substitute. I always forget that show. Other than the opening match it’s mostly a series of squash matches with god awful commentary and pimping some boxing match.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 9:01:26 GMT -5
He looked done in late 1991. When Roma left, he still had a job, but was almost certainly never winning and that probably wore on him. That said, he got PPV paydays up to the end of his time with the company - Survivor Series fill-in for Busick (so last minute that I think when he wrestled Piper at the SurSer Showdown before it, he wasn't actually part of Mustafa's team yet and was just meant to be a jobber that night) and then a momentary body in the Rumble (where, despite being a JTTS, he STILL managed to score an elimination) Which was, for some reason, used the night of his last WWF match at MSG against Sid. Hadn't had the theme (or any) since he turned heel in 1990, yet there it was. (Also have a vague recollection of it being used at a late 91/early 92 house show before then as well, but that could easily be wrong.)
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 15, 2019 10:22:45 GMT -5
He looked done in late 1991. When Roma left, he still had a job, but was almost certainly never winning and that probably wore on him. That said, he got PPV paydays up to the end of his time with the company - Survivor Series fill-in for Busick (so last minute that I think when he wrestled Piper at the SurSer Showdown before it, he wasn't actually part of Mustafa's team yet and was just meant to be a jobber that night) and then a momentary body in the Rumble (where, despite being a JTTS, he STILL managed to score an elimination) Which was, for some reason, used the night of his last WWF match at MSG against Sid. Hadn't had the theme (or any) since he turned heel in 1990, yet there it was. (Also have a vague recollection of it being used at a late 91/early 92 house show before then as well, but that could easily be wrong.) They probably used the theme because it was his last night with the company.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Dec 15, 2019 11:25:09 GMT -5
Doesn’t The Battle at Royal Albert Hall count?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 15, 2019 13:35:25 GMT -5
Doesn’t The Battle at Royal Albert Hall count? He was on the show, but we're talking about regular PPVs. The Royal Albert Hall show doesn't fit the bill.
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 16, 2019 9:16:27 GMT -5
That match he was in at Survivor Series '91 was all weird to begin with, since Jim Neidhart was originally on Duggan's team but then got a worked injury during a match with Ric Flair, thus allowing them to sub in the face-turning Sgt. Slaughter, something they made very clear during previews and event center breaks... and then out of nowhere on the night of the show Hercules' picture shows up superimposed over Big Bully Busick's and Herc's earning another PPV pay day, no heads up to the crowd whatsoever. How low on the totem pole do you have to be to sub for Big Bully Busick?
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